Anyone know the percents I should be lookingfor fair combos on a ness, or is he too floaty and I shouls be looking for more MU dependant combos/setups?
08/18/2015 10:27:55
Floaty is a good thing, it's heavy characters you can't follow up with fair. Id be guessing around 50%-65% for short and full hop fairs.
Just try and be above or below ness most of the time, its infront and behind that is scary.
I think smashville is the best option against ness. The moving platform is a great landing option for you against PK fires, but not so many platforms that you're in constant danger of getting f-aired. I don't know how much the wind of dreamland affects him during his UP B, but it can certainly bite you in the arse if ness takes your second jump with a fair.
I'm convinced town and city is the ultimate neutral stage, and a good choice for any character if you're unsure of where to go. But that's just me.
08/18/2015 11:01:11
Just try and be above or below ness most of the time, its infront and behind that is scary.
Cap said:
Yeah I think the disjointed hitboxes makes falcon a bitch sometimes. The fact that falcon is one of the characters who can really put the heat on ness when landing/recovering, I tend to lean more to the 60-40. I reckon FD and Duck Hunt are ood picks against ness, but I have a feeling smashville and dreamland might be secret op against his recovery
I think smashville is the best option against ness. The moving platform is a great landing option for you against PK fires, but not so many platforms that you're in constant danger of getting f-aired. I don't know how much the wind of dreamland affects him during his UP B, but it can certainly bite you in the arse if ness takes your second jump with a fair.
I'm convinced town and city is the ultimate neutral stage, and a good choice for any character if you're unsure of where to go. But that's just me.
08/18/2015 11:01:11
I like Dreamland cus the platforms are at a good height for falcon to try and continue combos or put safer pressure on someone shielding on a platform. Also, their height means you can jump around them looking for a safer option to the ground better than battlefield or T&C. I personally don't like T&C against any character with good vertical kill moves. That stage has one of the lowest ceilings in the game, which makes it easier to kill with U-Air and Raptor Boost, but I don't think the trade off is worth it when you die to a falling u-air from ness at 80%.
08/19/2015 00:10:23
08/19/2015 00:10:23
T&c is a terrible stage
08/19/2015 00:28:59
08/19/2015 00:28:59
Aerodrome said:
T&c is a terrible stage
Lies! its perfect! Shuttup! all of you shuttup! *runs off crying*
08/19/2015 00:44:59
T&City is the no damaging hazards spiritual successor to Brinstar.
People who think it's neutral are bad players and need to repent of their sins.
08/19/2015 00:59:45
People who think it's neutral are bad players and need to repent of their sins.
08/19/2015 00:59:45
The amount of kills I've gotten just by baiting people into moving platforms and back throwing is absurd.
I'm bad so it's basically my only kill option.
Shoutout to T&C.
08/19/2015 01:07:45
I'm bad so it's basically my only kill option.
Shoutout to T&C.
08/19/2015 01:07:45
Honestly I would put lylat > t&c for falcon. You can get ridiculously far command grabs with up b on ledge, as well as forward smash covering 1/3rd of the stage. It just sucks cus anyone higher than falcon on tier list pretty much has a better matchup against him on lylat. Good for early kills though Let's talk about Mario.
08/22/2015 12:32:39
08/22/2015 12:32:39
Mario is a shit. Don't run into up smash. Reverse falcon punch the prick.
08/22/2015 13:03:13
08/22/2015 13:03:13
Oh yeah falcon is pretty good, potential for high input speed, powerful smashes and good mobility, loves it. Used to main him before i found Link, good fun, good times with my main man Googers. love u googers
08/23/2015 23:22:13
08/23/2015 23:22:13
Lylat is probably the worst stage to ever exist tbh
08/25/2015 06:14:09
08/25/2015 06:14:09
Mar said:
Lylat is probably the worst stage to ever exist tbh
I liked it better when the edges were near impossible to grab.
08/25/2015 07:54:05