Urisk said:WRT the no lynch / no deaths? That's how things turned out. I'm not that petty.
Yo dean, can you confirm that the previous day/night was not a mod intervention/reaction to mafia discussion in senate/inactive players?
03/10/2016 09:56:55
03/10/2016 09:56:55
I think Maribro is possibly Jezmo, tbh. Or there is a Governor
03/10/2016 10:00:31
03/10/2016 10:00:31
dean said:
Urisk said:WRT the no lynch / no deaths? That's how things turned out. I'm not that petty.
Yo dean, can you confirm that the previous day/night was not a mod intervention/reaction to mafia discussion in senate/inactive players?
Not claiming your petty was just wondering if it was to spur action for inactive players. all g :)
03/10/2016 10:02:47
Vote: Maribro
Let's do a Take-Two on this one.
We had 8 people who thought you were mafia a few hours ago, and I'm still sure you're mafia now. (And so does LEF apparantly).
At first I thought you were an unlynchable, but from your post.. You've made me change my mind.
I believe you are governor. A mafia governor. I also believe you're an X-shot governor, with only 1 use. You used that on yourself. You're out of uses and it's time for you to be lynched. You are not unlynchable as there is not point in making a Townie unlynchable. No one visited you either, you were not protected by the doctor.
Not only do you bring up a governor, but you also bring up being X-shot. How many uses do you think it has? 1 shot. You're anticipating a lot about what happened and have far too much insight into the situation for someone who had no clue it was coming.
There being a governor is far too convenient for it to be someone else who hadn't anticipated this very thing happening.
But who would anticipate this? A Mafia Governor who puts himself front-and centre. His own mafia would NK him and he can protect himself if the town goes after him. The only thing that could go wrong is the other mafia NKing you, which, since you're front-and-centre you'll be protected by the doctor.
Now, who can protect themselves? An X-Shot Governor, precisely the role you assume saved you . Strange that you'd come to the conclusion that an obscure role like that is what occurred.
You may ask, it's strange that the governor would be a mafia instead of town.. But I have an answer for that.
The WikiPedia states: "Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch."
Interesting that you have assumed an obscure role is at play in such a specific situation as this.
We have 2 mafias, and a vigilante. A scenario where a Mafia Governor would fit perfectly in.
Summary:
- There is a governor
- The governor is Mafia
- The governor is X-Shot and can protect themselves
- You are the X-Shot (in this case 1-shot), Mafia Governor
Your first assumption of the day is extremely cherry-picked and yet again you asserted yourself as Pro-Town, which we were already suspicious of you for saying 24/7
You protected yourself and have no more uses (which you have also implied that the governor is out of uses).
Our course of action is to finish what we started and lynch you again. This time, you will flip mafia.
03/10/2016 10:12:04
Let's do a Take-Two on this one.
We had 8 people who thought you were mafia a few hours ago, and I'm still sure you're mafia now. (And so does LEF apparantly).
At first I thought you were an unlynchable, but from your post.. You've made me change my mind.
I believe you are governor. A mafia governor. I also believe you're an X-shot governor, with only 1 use. You used that on yourself. You're out of uses and it's time for you to be lynched. You are not unlynchable as there is not point in making a Townie unlynchable. No one visited you either, you were not protected by the doctor.
Not only do you bring up a governor, but you also bring up being X-shot. How many uses do you think it has? 1 shot. You're anticipating a lot about what happened and have far too much insight into the situation for someone who had no clue it was coming.
There being a governor is far too convenient for it to be someone else who hadn't anticipated this very thing happening.
But who would anticipate this? A Mafia Governor who puts himself front-and centre. His own mafia would NK him and he can protect himself if the town goes after him. The only thing that could go wrong is the other mafia NKing you, which, since you're front-and-centre you'll be protected by the doctor.
Now, who can protect themselves? An X-Shot Governor, precisely the role you assume saved you . Strange that you'd come to the conclusion that an obscure role like that is what occurred.
You may ask, it's strange that the governor would be a mafia instead of town.. But I have an answer for that.
The WikiPedia states: "Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch."
Interesting that you have assumed an obscure role is at play in such a specific situation as this.
We have 2 mafias, and a vigilante. A scenario where a Mafia Governor would fit perfectly in.
Summary:
- There is a governor
- The governor is Mafia
- The governor is X-Shot and can protect themselves
- You are the X-Shot (in this case 1-shot), Mafia Governor
Your first assumption of the day is extremely cherry-picked and yet again you asserted yourself as Pro-Town, which we were already suspicious of you for saying 24/7
You protected yourself and have no more uses (which you have also implied that the governor is out of uses).
Our course of action is to finish what we started and lynch you again. This time, you will flip mafia.
03/10/2016 10:12:04
No
03/10/2016 10:14:56
03/10/2016 10:14:56
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?
03/10/2016 10:15:13
03/10/2016 10:15:13
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
03/10/2016 10:18:50
03/10/2016 10:18:50
Interesting, considering twilight lasted for a good 10 minutes, it had to be someone active at the time
03/10/2016 10:19:07
03/10/2016 10:19:07
all I'm saying is that theory is ridiculous. I can explain why later but I need to write an article rn
03/10/2016 10:19:45
03/10/2016 10:19:45
CubT you're insane ok XDXD i'm sorry to break it to you XD
03/10/2016 10:19:53
03/10/2016 10:19:53
My suspicion of MrL is heightening, however.
03/10/2016 10:20:03
03/10/2016 10:20:03
Options from last night since it legitimately happened.
CubT results from last night.
1. CubT is insane.
2. CubT got role blocked.
3. CubT is lying
LT results
1. Doctor/protection of some kind visited/ensured Maribro didn't die.
2. Lt got role blocked.
3. LT is lying
Govenor.
1. Is Town
2. Is Mafia
If we believe CubT is insane we have to write off pretty much every following result and he becomes a VT.
If we believe CubT got role blocked then a doctor/protection may have also visited Maribro last night. In which case he may or may not be mafia.
Alternatively LT could be lying in which case LT is mafia.
If CubT is lying well hes maf but DUH.
If LT got roleblocked. The CubT may be telling the truth and no one infact visited maribro that night.
This proposes an interesting situation.
Maribro may have been rejected by both mafia parties each expecting the other to knock him out.
Maribro may also be part of one of the mafia families and the other decided that with no power role they may target someone more important like Pazx. (Unlikely since no one else died)
Essentially and I cut off some following logic here cause other people started posting stuff about it. Nothing has really changed moving forward, we can't guarantee you're town and we can't guarantee you're not.
03/10/2016 10:20:26
CubT results from last night.
1. CubT is insane.
2. CubT got role blocked.
3. CubT is lying
LT results
1. Doctor/protection of some kind visited/ensured Maribro didn't die.
2. Lt got role blocked.
3. LT is lying
Govenor.
1. Is Town
2. Is Mafia
If we believe CubT is insane we have to write off pretty much every following result and he becomes a VT.
If we believe CubT got role blocked then a doctor/protection may have also visited Maribro last night. In which case he may or may not be mafia.
Alternatively LT could be lying in which case LT is mafia.
If CubT is lying well hes maf but DUH.
If LT got roleblocked. The CubT may be telling the truth and no one infact visited maribro that night.
This proposes an interesting situation.
Maribro may have been rejected by both mafia parties each expecting the other to knock him out.
Maribro may also be part of one of the mafia families and the other decided that with no power role they may target someone more important like Pazx. (Unlikely since no one else died)
Essentially and I cut off some following logic here cause other people started posting stuff about it. Nothing has really changed moving forward, we can't guarantee you're town and we can't guarantee you're not.
03/10/2016 10:20:26
CubT said:
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
Maybe you're Mafia as well and you want Longshot to die if we are going with Mr L's theory.
03/10/2016 10:20:28
LtLongshot said:
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?
CubT said:He was blocked.
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
The longer twilight is also justification as twilight is always expanded to allow for governors to use their role.
Anyone else notice the long twilights this time round?
03/10/2016 10:20:51
Was that twilight longer than usual? o.o
03/10/2016 10:23:05
03/10/2016 10:23:05
I think i remember the first twilight being long and the second one being shortish
03/10/2016 10:23:42
03/10/2016 10:23:42
Maribro was lynched by not only 8 people. But Longshot and Wooy also supported the lynch, while not actually voting.
10/16 people wanted you gone.
That leaves 6 people for both mafia factions. (Albeit some mafia would've voted).
Deez is leaving, it is safe to assume he is town. That leaves 5. Maribro did not vote for himself (of course). That leaves 4 people.
Everyone is accounted for, for either wanting him gone (or in Deez's case, being inactive/town).
In theory that leaves Maribro, his two other mafia pals and one other who did not vote for him.
03/10/2016 10:24:36
10/16 people wanted you gone.
That leaves 6 people for both mafia factions. (Albeit some mafia would've voted).
Deez is leaving, it is safe to assume he is town. That leaves 5. Maribro did not vote for himself (of course). That leaves 4 people.
Everyone is accounted for, for either wanting him gone (or in Deez's case, being inactive/town).
In theory that leaves Maribro, his two other mafia pals and one other who did not vote for him.
03/10/2016 10:24:36
Right so I just read Mr.L's wall of black text. I don't doubt there is a governor but perhaps we also have multiple doctor/protection roles to deal with the increased amount of bullets flying.
03/10/2016 10:24:55
03/10/2016 10:24:55
a town governor wouldnt save Maribro. Most of the people that didn't vote for Mairbro wern't active at that time. Meaning they wouldn't have being able to end twilight so quickly. Town Governor also wouldnt save Maribro as it would have been incredibly anti-town to go against the towns votes unless they had other information.
03/10/2016 10:26:08
03/10/2016 10:26:08
Urisk said:That's why there's CubT to watch, follow and track people I'd assume.
Right so I just read Mr.L's wall of black text. I don't doubt there is a governor but perhaps we also have multiple doctor/protection roles to deal with the increased amount of bullets flying.
03/10/2016 10:26:14
I'm laughing
Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.
Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
03/10/2016 10:26:18
Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.
Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
03/10/2016 10:26:18
MrL said:
LtLongshot said:
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?CubT said:He was blocked.
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
The longer twilight is also justification as twilight is always expanded to allow for governors to use their role.
Anyone else notice the long twilights this time round?
That makes a lot of sense actually.
If the Mafia has a role blocker, LtLongshot would be the one to use it on.
03/10/2016 10:26:47
Maribro said:Only a mafia governor would have saved you.
I'm laughing
Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.
Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
Everyone wanted you gone, except for conveniently. You.
03/10/2016 10:27:22
MrL said:
Maribro was lynched by not only 8 people. But Longshot and Wooy also supported the lynch, while not actually voting.
10/16 people wanted you gone.
That leaves 6 people for both mafia factions. (Albeit some mafia would've voted).
Deez is leaving, it is safe to assume he is town. That leaves 5. Maribro did not vote for himself (of course). That leaves 4 people.
Everyone is accounted for, for either wanting him gone (or in Deez's case, being inactive/town).
In theory that leaves Maribro, his two other mafia pals and one other who did not vote for him.
I actually voted for Maribro if I recall correctly.
03/10/2016 10:28:17
MrL said:
Maribro said:Only a mafia governor would have saved you.
I'm laughing
Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.
Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
Everyone wanted you gone, except for conveniently. You.
By the time I was being lynched I had accepted my fate. You can tell by my posts.
Lots of protective roles have have possible self activation (like doctors) but Dean has never allowed this in his games. The governor would be no different.
03/10/2016 10:28:41