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Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win!

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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread.
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY state your character
You MAY paraphrase your abilities
You MAY NOT give any flavour text
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be. (I can tell the difference).
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there are players with equal votes, the lynchee is random.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread, and can no longer communicate privately if their role dictated that they could.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.
Inactive players will be given notice after 72 hours. If this happens several times over the course of the game the player will be removed from the game.

And we're back with another exciting edition of mafia, themed around Queensland's very popular Smashbox V tournament.

Alive:
Ghostbone, Victorian Mafia Godfather (investigation-immune), survived to win!
Windkeeper0, New South Welsh Mafia Odd-night Tracker, survived to win!

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 1.
Aerodrome, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 3.
JLo, replacing Barrydabusdriver day 3, Town Odd-night Cop, killed night 3.
CubT, Town Jack-of-all-Trades (investigate, track, watch, follow), killed night 3.
MrL, New South Welsh Mafia Role-Blocker, lynched day 4.
Wooy, Town Even-night Doctor, killed night 4.
Pazx, Vanilla Townie, killed night 4.
SpaceJam, Town One-shot Governor, killed night 4.
Urisk, Victorian Mafia Framer, lynched day 5.
BattleDolphin, Town Watcher, killed night 5.
LtLongshot, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killed night 5.
Invisi, New South Welsh Mafia Godfather (bulletproof), lynched day 6.
LEF, Victorian Mafia Role-stopper, killed night 6.
HydroPimp, Town Innocent Child, killed night 6.
Jezmo, Town Beloved Princess, lynched day 7.

Modkilled:
BlazikenGod, Town Bus Driver, day 2
dean 9 years ago
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deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Urisk said:
Yo dean, can you confirm that the previous day/night was not a mod intervention/reaction to mafia discussion in senate/inactive players?
WRT the no lynch / no deaths? That's how things turned out. I'm not that petty.
9 years ago
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
I think Maribro is possibly Jezmo, tbh.
Or there is a Governor
9 years ago
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
dean said:
Urisk said:
Yo dean, can you confirm that the previous day/night was not a mod intervention/reaction to mafia discussion in senate/inactive players?
WRT the no lynch / no deaths? That's how things turned out. I'm not that petty.


Not claiming your petty was just wondering if it was to spur action for inactive players. all g :)
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Vote: Maribro

Let's do a Take-Two on this one.

We had 8 people who thought you were mafia a few hours ago, and I'm still sure you're mafia now. (And so does LEF apparantly).

At first I thought you were an unlynchable, but from your post.. You've made me change my mind.

I believe you are governor. A mafia governor. I also believe you're an X-shot governor, with only 1 use. You used that on yourself. You're out of uses and it's time for you to be lynched. You are not unlynchable as there is not point in making a Townie unlynchable. No one visited you either, you were not protected by the doctor.

Not only do you bring up a governor, but you also bring up being X-shot. How many uses do you think it has? 1 shot. You're anticipating a lot about what happened and have far too much insight into the situation for someone who had no clue it was coming.

There being a governor is far too convenient for it to be someone else who hadn't anticipated this very thing happening.

But who would anticipate this? A Mafia Governor who puts himself front-and centre. His own mafia would NK him and he can protect himself if the town goes after him. The only thing that could go wrong is the other mafia NKing you, which, since you're front-and-centre you'll be protected by the doctor.

Now, who can protect themselves? An X-Shot Governor, precisely the role you assume saved you . Strange that you'd come to the conclusion that an obscure role like that is what occurred.

You may ask, it's strange that the governor would be a mafia instead of town.. But I have an answer for that.

The WikiPedia states: "Mafia Governors are overpowered in normal circumstances for obvious reasons - they can delay the lynch of a scumpartner for a Day, getting the full benefits of having that partner alive for an extra Night. However, scum-side Governors only tend to appear in games where there are plenty of other ways to render someone dead aside from the lynch."

Interesting that you have assumed an obscure role is at play in such a specific situation as this.

We have 2 mafias, and a vigilante. A scenario where a Mafia Governor would fit perfectly in.

Summary:

- There is a governor
- The governor is Mafia
- The governor is X-Shot and can protect themselves
- You are the X-Shot (in this case 1-shot), Mafia Governor

Your first assumption of the day is extremely cherry-picked and yet again you asserted yourself as Pro-Town, which we were already suspicious of you for saying 24/7

You protected yourself and have no more uses (which you have also implied that the governor is out of uses).

Our course of action is to finish what we started and lynch you again. This time, you will flip mafia.

9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
No
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?
9 years ago
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
9 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Interesting, considering twilight lasted for a good 10 minutes, it had to be someone active at the time
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
all I'm saying is that theory is ridiculous. I can explain why later but I need to write an article rn
9 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
CubT you're insane ok XDXD i'm sorry to break it to you XD
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
My suspicion of MrL is heightening, however.
9 years ago
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Options from last night since it legitimately happened.

CubT results from last night.
1. CubT is insane.
2. CubT got role blocked.
3. CubT is lying

LT results
1. Doctor/protection of some kind visited/ensured Maribro didn't die.
2. Lt got role blocked.
3. LT is lying

Govenor.
1. Is Town
2. Is Mafia


If we believe CubT is insane we have to write off pretty much every following result and he becomes a VT.

If we believe CubT got role blocked then a doctor/protection may have also visited Maribro last night. In which case he may or may not be mafia.
Alternatively LT could be lying in which case LT is mafia.

If CubT is lying well hes maf but DUH.


If LT got roleblocked. The CubT may be telling the truth and no one infact visited maribro that night.

This proposes an interesting situation.
Maribro may have been rejected by both mafia parties each expecting the other to knock him out.
Maribro may also be part of one of the mafia families and the other decided that with no power role they may target someone more important like Pazx. (Unlikely since no one else died)

Essentially and I cut off some following logic here cause other people started posting stuff about it. Nothing has really changed moving forward, we can't guarantee you're town and we can't guarantee you're not.

9 years ago
WooyQueenslandROB
14+ tourneys
CubT said:
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?


Maybe you're Mafia as well and you want Longshot to die if we are going with Mr L's theory.
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
LtLongshot said:
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?
CubT said:
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
He was blocked.

The longer twilight is also justification as twilight is always expanded to allow for governors to use their role.

Anyone else notice the long twilights this time round?
9 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Was that twilight longer than usual? o.o
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
I think i remember the first twilight being long and the second one being shortish
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Maribro was lynched by not only 8 people. But Longshot and Wooy also supported the lynch, while not actually voting.

10/16 people wanted you gone.

That leaves 6 people for both mafia factions. (Albeit some mafia would've voted).

Deez is leaving, it is safe to assume he is town. That leaves 5. Maribro did not vote for himself (of course). That leaves 4 people.

Everyone is accounted for, for either wanting him gone (or in Deez's case, being inactive/town).

In theory that leaves Maribro, his two other mafia pals and one other who did not vote for him.
9 years ago
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Right so I just read Mr.L's wall of black text. I don't doubt there is a governor but perhaps we also have multiple doctor/protection roles to deal with the increased amount of bullets flying.
9 years ago
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
a town governor wouldnt save Maribro. Most of the people that didn't vote for Mairbro wern't active at that time. Meaning they wouldn't have being able to end twilight so quickly. Town Governor also wouldnt save Maribro as it would have been incredibly anti-town to go against the towns votes unless they had other information.
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Urisk said:
Right so I just read Mr.L's wall of black text. I don't doubt there is a governor but perhaps we also have multiple doctor/protection roles to deal with the increased amount of bullets flying.
That's why there's CubT to watch, follow and track people I'd assume.
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
I'm laughing

Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.

Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
9 years ago
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
MrL said:
LtLongshot said:
How would you suggested he defended himself after i Attempted to NK him last night MrL?
CubT said:
Interesting theory, but how does that explain my report on Maribro, that no one visited him?
He was blocked.

The longer twilight is also justification as twilight is always expanded to allow for governors to use their role.

Anyone else notice the long twilights this time round?


That makes a lot of sense actually.

If the Mafia has a role blocker, LtLongshot would be the one to use it on.
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Maribro said:
I'm laughing

Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.

Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
Only a mafia governor would have saved you.

Everyone wanted you gone, except for conveniently. You.
9 years ago
WooyQueenslandROB
14+ tourneys
MrL said:
Maribro was lynched by not only 8 people. But Longshot and Wooy also supported the lynch, while not actually voting.

10/16 people wanted you gone.

That leaves 6 people for both mafia factions. (Albeit some mafia would've voted).

Deez is leaving, it is safe to assume he is town. That leaves 5. Maribro did not vote for himself (of course). That leaves 4 people.

Everyone is accounted for, for either wanting him gone (or in Deez's case, being inactive/town).

In theory that leaves Maribro, his two other mafia pals and one other who did not vote for him.


I actually voted for Maribro if I recall correctly.
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
MrL said:
Maribro said:
I'm laughing

Your theory is so wrong it's humorous.

Stop jumping to conclusions and look at the facts objectively. We need the governor to come out in support of me so we can get rid of this stupid "Maribro is the Governor" nonsense
Only a mafia governor would have saved you.

Everyone wanted you gone, except for conveniently. You.


By the time I was being lynched I had accepted my fate. You can tell by my posts.

Lots of protective roles have have possible self activation (like doctors) but Dean has never allowed this in his games. The governor would be no different.
9 years ago
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