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Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win!

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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread.
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You MAY paraphrase your abilities
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You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there are players with equal votes, the lynchee is random.
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8. Dead players cannot post in this thread, and can no longer communicate privately if their role dictated that they could.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.
Inactive players will be given notice after 72 hours. If this happens several times over the course of the game the player will be removed from the game.

And we're back with another exciting edition of mafia, themed around Queensland's very popular Smashbox V tournament.

Alive:
Ghostbone, Victorian Mafia Godfather (investigation-immune), survived to win!
Windkeeper0, New South Welsh Mafia Odd-night Tracker, survived to win!

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 1.
Aerodrome, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 3.
JLo, replacing Barrydabusdriver day 3, Town Odd-night Cop, killed night 3.
CubT, Town Jack-of-all-Trades (investigate, track, watch, follow), killed night 3.
MrL, New South Welsh Mafia Role-Blocker, lynched day 4.
Wooy, Town Even-night Doctor, killed night 4.
Pazx, Vanilla Townie, killed night 4.
SpaceJam, Town One-shot Governor, killed night 4.
Urisk, Victorian Mafia Framer, lynched day 5.
BattleDolphin, Town Watcher, killed night 5.
LtLongshot, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killed night 5.
Invisi, New South Welsh Mafia Godfather (bulletproof), lynched day 6.
LEF, Victorian Mafia Role-stopper, killed night 6.
HydroPimp, Town Innocent Child, killed night 6.
Jezmo, Town Beloved Princess, lynched day 7.

Modkilled:
BlazikenGod, Town Bus Driver, day 2
dean 03/14/2016 10:27:54
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PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
Windkeeper0 said:
I believe CubT on his claim as I have already stated it would be pretty bad for a mafia to claim a power role when someone else could know they are lying. I think I'm understanding this better now, I was assuming before that the role of the person would stick to the place of the original target but it would probably make more sense if the person carried their original roll with them. However I'm still confused as to why the bus driver would switch Pazx and cAKE.


There's no way for any of us to know if CubT is lying actually. If he claimed cop, and you were a cop, you might think that's pretty damning evidence, but since he claimed JOAT even if we have another JOAT/cop there's no reason to believe they wouldn't both be in the game.

CubT said:
I've already revealed my role. JOAT.

I am the Queensland player LEF!


What are the rest of your night actions?

Does anybody other than Cubt object to the reveal of his night actions? Keep in mind Maribro did this (claimed and revealed all abilities) last game and it worked out fairly decently.
03/07/2016 09:25:27
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
I only claimed because I was under the impression you would lynch me while I was asleep. Look at what happened to Laggy.

And as I said, I would rather give you the info about my report, then wake up, be lynched and then gave nothing to the game
03/07/2016 09:25:28
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
"The pro-Town intent of this role is to attempt to redirect the scum's kill onto a better target. "

it's therefore very likely that Pazx was the target of a nightkill, not cAKE
03/07/2016 09:25:30
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Maribro said:
LEF said:
BattleDolphin said:
.


Hi Lachlan good for you to join us tonight


Why do you keep making posts like this
I'd say CubT is probably telling the truth. I think his claim was probably a bad idea and the way he's gone about it has been pretty terrible but I do believe him.

Why?

Well, it's highly likely there is a bus driver in this game. It's also possible that cAKE is town aligned and was framed. This suggests that town has a bus driver and one of the mafia factions has a framer. I'd say this is fairly likely as Dean likes to introduce new roles and interesting roles to his game.


If there is a bus driver it points to pazx being framed EVERYTHING that happened to cake should have happened to pazx. What can we see from that?

1. Cake was anti town investigated but was town when he died.
Meaning cubt is either an insane cop or cake was framed. Likely the former.

2. Cake was investigated. Well we know cubt tried to investigate pazx and got a result for cake. Highly suggesting a bus driver.

3. Cake was murdered. He posted sweet fa. Pazx posted a lot. Likely they tried to murder pazx and thus cake took the hit.

4. Pazx and cake was bus driven. Likely because pazx has been very beneficial in both previous games and spoke alot this game day 1.

Great play from the bus driver as not only have they indicated pazx is highly likely a town member. They have also somewhat proven themselves as town.

The next level play involved for mafia to bus drive one of their own and murder him is insanely ballszy as they could be hit by a random role block and be up shit creek. If that did ineed occur i applaud them greatly and they deserve to win cause thats bloody mint.
03/07/2016 09:26:02
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Wait wait hold up they had to be killing Pazx if they were switched dw lol


03/07/2016 09:26:08
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Which would make a lot of sense, as it would be unlikely the mafia would target cAKE night 1
03/07/2016 09:26:18
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Pazx said:
Windkeeper0 said:
I believe CubT on his claim as I have already stated it would be pretty bad for a mafia to claim a power role when someone else could know they are lying. I think I'm understanding this better now, I was assuming before that the role of the person would stick to the place of the original target but it would probably make more sense if the person carried their original roll with them. However I'm still confused as to why the bus driver would switch Pazx and cAKE.


There's no way for any of us to know if CubT is lying actually. If he claimed cop, and you were a cop, you might think that's pretty damning evidence, but since he claimed JOAT even if we have another JOAT/cop there's no reason to believe they wouldn't both be in the game.

CubT said:
I've already revealed my role. JOAT.

I am the Queensland player LEF!


What are the rest of your night actions?

Does anybody other than Cubt object to the reveal of his night actions? Keep in mind Maribro did this (claimed and revealed all abilities) last game and it worked out fairly decently.


I have no issues with him revealing a minimum of one additional role. Do not give mafia to much information.
03/07/2016 09:27:30
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Yeah what Urisk said
03/07/2016 09:27:39
WooyQueenslandROB
14+ tourneys
Maribro said:
If you have nothing to say…

Make a post like mine, try and analyse how everyone is acting

Or

Accuse someone you are suspicious of or want to hear more from
Everyone has something unique to add to the discussion, don't forget that
And posting a decent amount, without posting too much, is probably one of the most pro town things you can do. Not adding to discussion and staying in the shadows has been viewed as highly anti town in previous games.


Okay I just got home so here's my thoughts:

I definitely want to hear more from BlazikenGod. From what I saw he threw out votes for both Pazx and CubT when they were getting bandwagon'd. Based on Maribro's posts we can see that he believes both of these players are town / not very suspicious, although they could be Mafia.

Just some quick observations I typed up:

Deez: Has contributed more than last game, and attempted to defend LtLongshot(?)
SpaceJam: Doing reasonably well. Has been fairly active.
LEF: Not talking too much. His posts don't add too much to discussion, just saying random things like "Glad you could join us", "I did cry last game when Link died" and "I guess I'll go hide in that amiibo thread". However, he has contributed at least once or twice.
Barrydabusdriver: Much like previous games being pretty quiet but has some good things to say when he does post. However did say something that sounded very anti-town.
Maribro: Exhibits pro-town behavior as far as I can see.
Urisk: Makes good observations. Pro town behavior to me.
Wooy: Has made some good observations but hasn't posted much.
Ghostbone: Raises some good points but hasn't posted a lot.
BlazikenGod: See above
Windkeeper0:
Jezmo: Has made posts on the first day but after that hasn't been active.
LtLongshot: Has a reason for inactivity but acts very suspicious.
MrL: Has contributed. I don't know
BattleDolphin: Please write more or something
Pazx: Has contributed quite a bit to discussion. Was voted for by quite a few people on Day 1.
CubT: Was acting suspicious but has justified some of his behavior with a role claim.
Invisi: Has not talked very much.
03/07/2016 09:27:54
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
Where is this info from Maribro?
03/07/2016 09:27:57
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
This is making a lot of sense actually…

Who would be a great person to frame on night 1? An active member of the town and a great player in general. A lot of suspicion towards Pazx in day 1 means that if there was an investigation, it would be towards Pazx. A good play from the framer but then the bus driver saved the day.

Fucking great play whoever that was
03/07/2016 09:28:59
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
Press 1 for ability 1
Press 2 for ability 2
or Press 3 for ability 3
03/07/2016 09:29:22
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Maribro said:
This is making a lot of sense actually…

Who would be a great person to frame on night 1? An active member of the town and a great player in general. A lot of suspicion towards Pazx in day 1 means that if there was an investigation, it would be towards Pazx. A good play from the framer but then the bus driver saved the day.

Fucking great play whoever that was


CubT said:
Press 1 for ability 1
Press 2 for ability 2
or Press 3 for ability 3


2 I guess, but knowing them all would be nice unless you feel that you're going to be dead after today if you do.
03/07/2016 09:31:16
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
ACTUALLY...

Does this also mean that the extra person Longshot expected to have died was Pazx?
03/07/2016 09:31:55
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
No because cAKE died in place of Pazx?
03/07/2016 09:32:48
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
I think CubT is a likely NK target tonight whether he reveals his abilities or not so I don't see why he wouldn't reveal all of them.
03/07/2016 09:33:05
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
CubT said:
Press 1 for ability 1
Press 2 for ability 2
or Press 3 for ability 3


3
03/07/2016 09:33:46
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
BattleDolphin said:
No because cAKE died in place of Pazx?


The hypothetical Cub is suggesting is:
Mafia targets Pazx
Cub investigates Pazx
Bus driver switches Pazx and Cake
Cake dies
Cake gets investigated
03/07/2016 09:33:52
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
So what I can say

CubT tried to investigate Pazx but instead received a weird result about cAKE being anti town. He didn't know why but know we do.

Mafia team 1 has a framer, they attempted to frame Pazx suspecting that he would be investigated at some point today and used their other lynch on Aero, thinking he may be a PR. Because of the bus driver, they instead framed cAKE

Mafia team 2 tried to kill Pazx but because of the bus driver, they killed cAKE

resulting in cAKE dying, being framed AND investigated in one go. Jesus, poor kid.
03/07/2016 09:34:20
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
^replace "mafia" with "some killing role aka longshot"
EBWOP: NINJA'D
03/07/2016 09:35:01
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
and Lt Longshot expected Pazx to be dead, not knowing that there was a busdriver led to him suspecting that there was a doctor in the game that saved Pazx and another serial killer, who disposed of cAKE.

vote: Lt Longshot
03/07/2016 09:35:57
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
This is making a whole lot of sense oml
03/07/2016 09:36:17
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
BattleDolphin said:
No because cAKE died in place of Pazx?


If Day 2 opened up, and the person who I had said to kill didn't died and I had no explanation (why would the same team mafia use frame on Pazx, if they were going to kill him), I would probably assume a save aswell.

That mafia teams knows they didn't pick cAKE and they didn't pick Aero, hence why he thought there was a doc save. It makes sense.
03/07/2016 09:37:19
UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Pazx said:
BattleDolphin said:
No because cAKE died in place of Pazx?


The hypothetical Cub is suggesting is:
Mafia targets Pazx
Cub investigates Pazx
Bus driver switches Pazx and Cake
Cake dies
Cake gets investigated


Youre missing a probable frame as well. I think you were targeted by both factions of mafia. One with a subtler plan and one with a more direct one. This is what makes me feel like you are almost definitely a townie. Unless it was the sickest maf play ever. And both you and bus driver are maf.
03/07/2016 09:39:17
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
The only way that we can prove my insane theory is with a bus driver claim.

I'm not encouraging this any way, shape or form. If everyone feels that this is too early for him/her to claim then they probably shouldn't. I don't think busdriver is that big of a role though so it should be okay?

Idk

Don't claim though if you think I'm dumb. I have a history of encouraging bad claims but I'm trying to not go down that route rn.
03/07/2016 09:39:29
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