Good point, Spacejam.
While supporting a townie to then kill the subsequent night would be a good play by mafia, it's also a somewhat obvious one, so there's little effectiveness, and frankly no reason to do so.
If I was mafia would it not be smarter to just stay of it and then kill CubT, making maribro looking suspicious? Then there'd be no link to me and would be out of suspicion altogether.
It was a smarter play killing CubT, because the point you raised can still be used against me.
However, if they killed me, there would be no way to make CubT out to be suss, as he was the one being defended by Town.
More damage could be done by taking out CubT than taking out me.
If Maribro was town, it would've been a better play to kill him, because it'd paint CubT and I was suss. But of course, because Maribro is mafia and CubT & I are town, that did not happen.
stay out of it*
04/28/2016 12:21:09
Gonna make a post tomorrow but I'm just gonna say that
1) You're painting yourself as townie to an extreme degree… hiding something? Nobody has even voted you yet.
2) Lmao why would mafia kill me if town will make the lynch for them. You should know yourself from the Smashbox game. Keeping me alive another day was a free lynch of a townie and keeping people alive who are supposedly suspicious is advantageous for the maf.
Also…
Nice irony man.
04/28/2016 12:25:17
1) You're painting yourself as townie to an extreme degree… hiding something? Nobody has even voted you yet.
2) Lmao why would mafia kill me if town will make the lynch for them. You should know yourself from the Smashbox game. Keeping me alive another day was a free lynch of a townie and keeping people alive who are supposedly suspicious is advantageous for the maf.
Also…
MrL said:
You're not as self-righteous this time round, which is a good improvement.
MrL said:
- Deciding you can't read english when any and all explanation is given how you could've easily figured out cAKE was the traitor and acted accordingly.
Nice irony man.
04/28/2016 12:25:17
I've said I'm town multiple times to clarrify the positions of each player in the different scenarios to clarrify who is who (such as hypotheticals if i was mafia and you were town in the post above) and when I'm specifically talking about how it is.
Besides the last time someone was referencing themselves alot as being town, they were. You should know :')
So basically yet another meaningless point of yours.
"Lmao why would mafia kill me if town will make the lynch for them. You should know yourself from the Smashbox game. Keeping me alive another day was a free lynch of a townie and keeping people alive who are supposedly suspicious is advantageous for the maf. "
Except nobody has voted for either of us, town is smarter than to instantly rush to conclusions and bandwagon like that.
If you were town, mafia would've killed you because it would've left town to lynch me.
But seeing as you're not town, mafia/you chose CubT instead.
Couldn't even try and say I was being suss so just poorly tried to say my argument was invalid by asking why they would've done that, even after I already explained why.
Also thank you, my english teacher always told us to include literary devices in things we write so I thought I'd live up to her expectations.
04/28/2016 12:44:37
Besides the last time someone was referencing themselves alot as being town, they were. You should know :')
So basically yet another meaningless point of yours.
"Lmao why would mafia kill me if town will make the lynch for them. You should know yourself from the Smashbox game. Keeping me alive another day was a free lynch of a townie and keeping people alive who are supposedly suspicious is advantageous for the maf. "
Except nobody has voted for either of us, town is smarter than to instantly rush to conclusions and bandwagon like that.
If you were town, mafia would've killed you because it would've left town to lynch me.
But seeing as you're not town, mafia/you chose CubT instead.
Couldn't even try and say I was being suss so just poorly tried to say my argument was invalid by asking why they would've done that, even after I already explained why.
Also thank you, my english teacher always told us to include literary devices in things we write so I thought I'd live up to her expectations.
04/28/2016 12:44:37
you both raise really good points but honestly at this rate i dont think anyone is gonna vote both of you cos people seem to have their own opinions of each of you already. theres 4 possibilities in this situation:
1. Maribro is town, MrL is maf
2. MrL is town, Maribro is Maf
3. You're both town
4. You're both maf.
now, option 4 doesnt make much sense, so we can probably cross that out.
not to turn the attention completely away from both of you but we have a lot of information on both of you and theres still players that are *rather* inactive and really only posting once a day which is kind of not cool. plus lachlanf who just posts gears and lemons constantly.
04/29/2016 04:22:30
1. Maribro is town, MrL is maf
2. MrL is town, Maribro is Maf
3. You're both town
4. You're both maf.
now, option 4 doesnt make much sense, so we can probably cross that out.
not to turn the attention completely away from both of you but we have a lot of information on both of you and theres still players that are *rather* inactive and really only posting once a day which is kind of not cool. plus lachlanf who just posts gears and lemons constantly.
04/29/2016 04:22:30
I agree with you, it's still too early to make a final verdict.
After hearing Lachlan, BattleDolphin and Spacejam I'm thinking it's increasingly likely we're both town. However, we should still be cautious.
I'm happy to venture into getting more inactive players to talk and contribute, especially:
InsertName71
HydroPimp
LachlanF
Bijou
Haiku
Just gonna put it bluntly you guys have been really slack and have really negatively impacted the game with the lack of effort you've put into this. Please post more.
It'd be neat if BattleDolphin and Wooy could say a little somethin', they usually have quite interesting things to say. I'd like to hear Wooy's thoughts especially, because he's typically been quite a strong player.
I understand Battledolphin believes Maribro and I are both town, may I ask why you lean toward this opinion, and perhaps some action we can take to move forward?
04/29/2016 04:36:06
After hearing Lachlan, BattleDolphin and Spacejam I'm thinking it's increasingly likely we're both town. However, we should still be cautious.
I'm happy to venture into getting more inactive players to talk and contribute, especially:
InsertName71
HydroPimp
LachlanF
Bijou
Haiku
Just gonna put it bluntly you guys have been really slack and have really negatively impacted the game with the lack of effort you've put into this. Please post more.
It'd be neat if BattleDolphin and Wooy could say a little somethin', they usually have quite interesting things to say. I'd like to hear Wooy's thoughts especially, because he's typically been quite a strong player.
I understand Battledolphin believes Maribro and I are both town, may I ask why you lean toward this opinion, and perhaps some action we can take to move forward?
04/29/2016 04:36:06
MrL said:
It'd be neat if BattleDolphin and Wooy could say a little somethin', they usually have quite interesting things to say. I'd like to hear Wooy's thoughts especially, because he's typically been quite a strong player.
Mafia - Tier List:
(Thanks to Maribro for helping put this together)
S Tier: Urisk, Atyeo, Invisi, dean
A+ Tier: Pazx, JLo, Aerodrome, Maribro
A Tier: Windkeeper0, CubT, Ghostbone
B Tier: Wooy, MrL, BattleDolphin, SpaceJam
C+ Tier: Barrydabusdriver, cAKE
D Tier: HydroPimp, Jezmo, LtLongshot
E Tier: LachlanF, ThatLaggyPerson
F Tier: Deez
NOTE: I didn't list people who joined this game as I don't really know where to put them. For Rhyno and FramesJanco I didn't really see much significant activity so I couldn't judge, they both sorta just quit. The others who are alive (JonCheee, Bijou, Haiku, InsertName71) I could'nt really judge as I don't have enough info on their alignment and role as night actions are a thing. I also didn't include people who had only participated in 1 game for the same reasons above.
04/29/2016 05:41:25
I'm surprised you rate me so highly. I should deff be D Tier.
On a different note I'm okay with JonChee's statement that they might both be town. We don't know the amount of mafia correct? I wouldn't mind guessing that theres 3-4 though.
04/29/2016 05:46:36
On a different note I'm okay with JonChee's statement that they might both be town. We don't know the amount of mafia correct? I wouldn't mind guessing that theres 3-4 though.
04/29/2016 05:46:36
My guess as there were 4 including traitor.
04/29/2016 06:03:59
04/29/2016 06:03:59
i forgot i was killed 10 years ago
whoops
04/29/2016 06:20:30
whoops
04/29/2016 06:20:30
I feel like calling me out for being slack is a bit harsh. I've contributed way more than the others you listed.
I don't really know how to respond to the extreme text walls over the last two pages. You both seem town to me and both are able to bring up good points.
Something I've been wondering about though is Franco being a firefighter. As far as I can tell no one has died to fire at night yet. Are there any thoughts on this? It would be pretty pointless to have a fire fighter if an Arsonist was a one shot type, so I'm guessing they're a serial killer type? However they don't seem to have killed anyone yet.
I don't know if this will help us work out any Mafia members or anything but I was just wondering about it was all.
04/29/2016 06:22:13
I don't really know how to respond to the extreme text walls over the last two pages. You both seem town to me and both are able to bring up good points.
Something I've been wondering about though is Franco being a firefighter. As far as I can tell no one has died to fire at night yet. Are there any thoughts on this? It would be pretty pointless to have a fire fighter if an Arsonist was a one shot type, so I'm guessing they're a serial killer type? However they don't seem to have killed anyone yet.
I don't know if this will help us work out any Mafia members or anything but I was just wondering about it was all.
04/29/2016 06:22:13
That's more like it :D
Yeah there's almost certainly an Arsonist like you said. My guess is that they've been priming people each night, to try and take out as many as possible in one go.
I read the page a few days ago, and I think they win if they're the only one alive? If that's the case, not saying much at all would be a good way to play as to not be targeted by mafia.
Normally it'd be a bit easier to guess who might be the Arsonist using that logic, but as multiple people are doing the exact same thing, there's no real way to tell.
04/29/2016 06:33:38
Yeah there's almost certainly an Arsonist like you said. My guess is that they've been priming people each night, to try and take out as many as possible in one go.
I read the page a few days ago, and I think they win if they're the only one alive? If that's the case, not saying much at all would be a good way to play as to not be targeted by mafia.
Normally it'd be a bit easier to guess who might be the Arsonist using that logic, but as multiple people are doing the exact same thing, there's no real way to tell.
04/29/2016 06:33:38
I'm not gonna respond to your other points for now because there's been a shift in discussion.
Next on my line of suspicion is LachlanF… He played very similarly to this in the Smashbox game. He hasn't provided anything in any of his posts… I'd advocate a policy lynch but it's too late for that now. I feel like he should try and at the very least help town out though.
04/29/2016 06:48:49
Next on my line of suspicion is LachlanF… He played very similarly to this in the Smashbox game. He hasn't provided anything in any of his posts… I'd advocate a policy lynch but it's too late for that now. I feel like he should try and at the very least help town out though.
04/29/2016 06:48:49
The problem I'm having at the moment as well is I just don't have enough information to go on to make a call on anybody.
I suppose if there are only 3 mafia left (assuming Mr L is correct on the number) then we can afford three more mislynches before the game is over right?
Assuming a mislynch happens every time and the mafia get a night kill each night:
Day 4 - 8 town 3 maf (6 votes to lynch, 27.27 percent chance to hit maf)
Day 5 - 6 town 3 maf (5 to lynch, 33.3 percent chance to hit maf)
Day 6 - 4 town 3 maf (4 to lynch, 42.9 percent chance to hit maf)
So if the mafia survive until night 6 and hit an NK each night then they win. This does not allow for serial killer kills, night protections, hitting maf, etc
These are the sorts of things I'm thinking about when not posting but I don't feel like it really adds any benefit to working out who the mafia are.
On the numbers above it's kind of safe to go for another lynch on a less active player but I'm not going to endorse that train of thought because it will be seen as scum-like. I'm just writing what I'm thinking about and other people can use the information to make better judgements I guess.
04/29/2016 06:50:48
I suppose if there are only 3 mafia left (assuming Mr L is correct on the number) then we can afford three more mislynches before the game is over right?
Assuming a mislynch happens every time and the mafia get a night kill each night:
Day 4 - 8 town 3 maf (6 votes to lynch, 27.27 percent chance to hit maf)
Day 5 - 6 town 3 maf (5 to lynch, 33.3 percent chance to hit maf)
Day 6 - 4 town 3 maf (4 to lynch, 42.9 percent chance to hit maf)
So if the mafia survive until night 6 and hit an NK each night then they win. This does not allow for serial killer kills, night protections, hitting maf, etc
These are the sorts of things I'm thinking about when not posting but I don't feel like it really adds any benefit to working out who the mafia are.
On the numbers above it's kind of safe to go for another lynch on a less active player but I'm not going to endorse that train of thought because it will be seen as scum-like. I'm just writing what I'm thinking about and other people can use the information to make better judgements I guess.
04/29/2016 06:50:48
I agree.
I'm wondering if that was a soft claim from Lachlan, or him just messing around. (or a fake soft claim).
I'm guessing just messing around. I'd also like to see why he thinks BattleDolphin is maf. ^ That was focused to Maribro.
Interesting stats Bijou. Thanks for the help :)
As for lynching a less active player.. worst case scenario they're town, but it's better to mislynch an inactive player than to mislynch a stronger player like Spacejam, Wooy, Maribro or Jonchee (I think Spacejam, Wooy and Jonchee are town but just making a point).
Candidates for lynching of the people who haven't helped town and have been largely inactive would be:
LachlanF
Haiku
Insertname
I'm thinking of putting a vote on Insertname, as LachlanF has posted recently and I'd like further explanation of what he said and Haiku has also said more than Insert.
Personally Bijou, I wouldn't find you suspicious for wanting to pressure the 3 mentioned above to talk more, and potentially lynch if they continue to not say much. They haven't contributed to town and there's a chance they are mafia.
Thoughts?
04/29/2016 06:58:58
I'm wondering if that was a soft claim from Lachlan, or him just messing around. (or a fake soft claim).
I'm guessing just messing around. I'd also like to see why he thinks BattleDolphin is maf. ^ That was focused to Maribro.
Interesting stats Bijou. Thanks for the help :)
As for lynching a less active player.. worst case scenario they're town, but it's better to mislynch an inactive player than to mislynch a stronger player like Spacejam, Wooy, Maribro or Jonchee (I think Spacejam, Wooy and Jonchee are town but just making a point).
Candidates for lynching of the people who haven't helped town and have been largely inactive would be:
LachlanF
Haiku
Insertname
I'm thinking of putting a vote on Insertname, as LachlanF has posted recently and I'd like further explanation of what he said and Haiku has also said more than Insert.
Personally Bijou, I wouldn't find you suspicious for wanting to pressure the 3 mentioned above to talk more, and potentially lynch if they continue to not say much. They haven't contributed to town and there's a chance they are mafia.
Thoughts?
04/29/2016 06:58:58
I like your logic Mr L. I've been kind of hesitant about what to post because previously most things I've said have been used against me to make me seem like I'm Mafia.
I suppose doing something and risking looking bad is better than doing not much at all though huh?
It's good to know people are thinking the same sort of thing as me at least. I'd be in favour of at least putting a bit of pressure on one or more of the three above as you mentioned.
As you say Insertname has probably contributed the least of the three this day so maybe we should start there?
04/29/2016 07:11:34
I suppose doing something and risking looking bad is better than doing not much at all though huh?
It's good to know people are thinking the same sort of thing as me at least. I'd be in favour of at least putting a bit of pressure on one or more of the three above as you mentioned.
As you say Insertname has probably contributed the least of the three this day so maybe we should start there?
04/29/2016 07:11:34
Bijou said:
I like your logic Mr L. I've been kind of hesitant about what to post because previously most things I've said have been used against me to make me seem like I'm Mafia.
I suppose doing something and risking looking bad is better than doing not much at all though huh?
It's good to know people are thinking the same sort of thing as me at least. I'd be in favour of at least putting a bit of pressure on one or more of the three above as you mentioned.
As you say Insertname has probably contributed the least of the three this day so maybe we should start there?
I think LachlanF is where we should start, Maribro noted he has been behaving like when he was in the Smashbox game. Regardless we should be able to get through all three before the day ends and hopefully give us some insight (unless they stall :( that would suck)
04/29/2016 07:18:36
Personally I would've gone with LachlanF, as Wooy and Maribro pointed out he's been playing like he was in Smashbox, plus I'm just getting a scummy vibe from him.
But because he's been posting a bit, I thought maybe focus on someone who hasn't been?
Although at the same time, voting Lachlan will a) motivate him to talk b) get him to explain his actions (voting for battledolphin, why he thinks who is what) and if he does neither A or B, then we can lynch him.
Does that sound fair?
04/29/2016 07:23:57
But because he's been posting a bit, I thought maybe focus on someone who hasn't been?
Although at the same time, voting Lachlan will a) motivate him to talk b) get him to explain his actions (voting for battledolphin, why he thinks who is what) and if he does neither A or B, then we can lynch him.
Does that sound fair?
04/29/2016 07:23:57
K Right now im just trying to stay out of the mr l vs maribo argument. But that seems to of come to a mutual agreement So ill start posting again
04/29/2016 09:02:44
04/29/2016 09:02:44
Vote: InsertName
Better get started then.
04/30/2016 01:22:23
Better get started then.
04/30/2016 01:22:23
How to stop argument 101 both Maribro and MRL are town aligned. Figure out how I know that later.
Internal arguments between town are not fun, we just need to focus on the mafia and who they are. So using my same logic BattleDolphin is keeping that vote.
04/30/2016 02:30:55
Internal arguments between town are not fun, we just need to focus on the mafia and who they are. So using my same logic BattleDolphin is keeping that vote.
04/30/2016 02:30:55
So the only reason you've voted for me is that ive been in active through out day 3 and 4 Even though I have explained why for both days
04/30/2016 03:07:50
04/30/2016 03:07:50
InsertName said:
So the only reason you've voted for me is that ive been in active through out day 3 and 4 Even though I have explained why for both days
We just want to get you to actually contribute something as opposed to just posting for the sake of being active.
Do you have an opinion on who might be mafia? Or alternatively what questions are you pondering about the game so far?
LachlanF said:
How to stop argument 101 both Maribro and MRL are town aligned. Figure out how I know that later.
Internal arguments between town are not fun, we just need to focus on the mafia and who they are. So using my same logic BattleDolphin is keeping that vote.
So basically your logic is that you just have a feeling about him? That's super sketchy lol. Perhaps if you gave more reasoning I'd be inclined to agree with you but so far all you've done is made me more suss of you.
04/30/2016 03:24:55
Well right now the people im most suspicious of are hydropimp and haiku specifically hydro I feel like the towns strongest player right now is definetly maribo
04/30/2016 03:26:42
04/30/2016 03:26:42
InsertName said:
Well right now the people im most suspicious of are hydropimp and haiku specifically hydro I feel like the towns strongest player right now is definetly maribo
Why do you think they're suspicious? Or what do you think makes them suspicious?
Personally I think Haiku is actually town but just not active a lot. When he does post he doesn't give me any negative vibes and seems to try to help.
Hydro on the other hand I agree is suspicious. He's not doing a lot and when he does post it seems a little disingenuous to me, or at least that's the feeling I get. Plus he defended himself over voting to have cAKE lynched when in reality he didn't even vote for him in the first place. This makes me suspect him further since over defensiveness is possibly a sign of being mafia.
04/30/2016 03:33:08
So should we apply pressure to hydro or would that just be another. "Oh that guy is inactive lets get him"
04/30/2016 03:39:18
04/30/2016 03:39:18