What the hell, stop talking about how I haven't posted on day 4 before this, I do TKD the WHOLE afternoon on Thursdays. Anyway, I think that Aero is the safest option right now. With a slight chance of what Hydro said being true Aero seems like the best option. I don't wanna vote just yet because in Aero's defence, what he's saying is starting to look a lot less like he's trying to divert attention from himself. I honestly think that Aero MIGHT be innocent.
9 years ago
How does Invisi's claim confirm he's town? Doesn't his role only determine if someone is Mafia/cop/vig by getting a 'guilty' when looked into?
9 years ago
9 years ago
Invisi can only tell if people are not mafia, vig, or cop.
And I see no evidence that he actually investigated aero in the first place (his response to Duon voting for him was absolute, while when discussing aero all he said was that aero could be either town or maf)
9 years ago
And I see no evidence that he actually investigated aero in the first place (his response to Duon voting for him was absolute, while when discussing aero all he said was that aero could be either town or maf)
9 years ago
Traitors aren't picked up by gunsmith tho. Or would dean have stated it if there was a traitor? Looked it up and it looks like a traitor doesn't need to be stated (but mafia still needs to know there's one). It'd make sense as 4th or (more likely) a 5th mafia member to balance things Also, here's each day's votes; with people who are still alive in bold.
Day 1
Final vote count for Day 1:
ThatLaggyPerson (11) - cAKE, Aerodrome, BastyTho, SpaceJam, BattleDolphin, Windkeeper0, EIS-DUON, Ghostbone, Dyna_Hole, ThatLaggyPerson, LuminousLucas
AutumnWind (1) - LachlanF
LachlanF (1) - MrL
Corvid (1) - InsertName
Not voted (6) - HydroPimp, Invisi, cjeccjec, Corvid, Maribro, AutumnWind
Day 2
Aerodrome (2) - Dyna_Hole, AutumnWind
Invisi (3) - SpaceJam, Ghostbone, BastyTho
LachlanF (10) - Aerodrome, Invisi, cAKE, cjeccjec, EIS-DUON, InsertName, Windkeeper0, MrL, Rhyno, Maribro
Not voted (3) - HydroPimp, LuminousLucas, LachlanF
Day 3
Final votes:
Aerodrome (5) - Maribro, AutumnWind, Rhyno, Insertname, cjeccjec
Maribro (8) - Aerodrome, Invisi, Ghostbone, MrL, HydroPimp, Windkeeper0, cAKE, BastyTho
Not voted (2) - Dyna_Hole, EIS-DUON Interestingly, only 3 people have voted for the person who was lynched each day, who are still alive.
cAKE, Aero and Windkeeper.
The first two days, cAKE and Aero were aggressive voters, voting close together (Aero being the starter of 2 bandwagons and the follower of 1 [first to follower].
Windkeeper on the other hand has joined each bandwagon later on, being one of the last to vote for each lynch.
I'd imagine it'd be a pretty safe tactic to try and have mafia vote on opposite ends of the bandwagon. Aero and cAKE are more aggresive players than Wind, which would make for an interesting mix of playstyles for a mafia team.
Also it'd be safe to assume that especially with laggy being lynch #1, all of the mafia members could join the bandwagon with 100% safety; even aero's survived this far with being very aggressive about it.
For this reason, I think it'd be safe to assume that Hydro, CJ, Autumnwind, Insert and I are less likely to be mafia. Why waste the opportunity of a free kill and night phase?
Windkeeper, cAKE and Basty all voting within a small timeframe and quickhammering Maribro is another thing to note. Assuming there is a traitor to fill out mafia numbers - my two guesses would be Duon or Basty. But there's not much for that.
Basty made a very traitor-y play with the quickhammer, especially after wind and cake voted; made no sense, came out of the blue, was scummy, but could be passed off as a gaff or inexperience, while still sending a strong signal to mafia.
Duon being much more aggressive in day 4 than in other days, suggesting players reveal roles? could be palmed off as a 'might as well suggest something' but also a strong (but weaker signal) to mafia that he could be a traitor.
There's more of a case for Basty than Duon, but Duon would definitely be the more dangerous player so we should be cautious moving forward.
9 years ago
Day 1
Final vote count for Day 1:
ThatLaggyPerson (11) - cAKE, Aerodrome, BastyTho, SpaceJam, BattleDolphin, Windkeeper0, EIS-DUON, Ghostbone, Dyna_Hole, ThatLaggyPerson, LuminousLucas
AutumnWind (1) - LachlanF
LachlanF (1) - MrL
Corvid (1) - InsertName
Not voted (6) - HydroPimp, Invisi, cjeccjec, Corvid, Maribro, AutumnWind
Day 2
Aerodrome (2) - Dyna_Hole, AutumnWind
Invisi (3) - SpaceJam, Ghostbone, BastyTho
LachlanF (10) - Aerodrome, Invisi, cAKE, cjeccjec, EIS-DUON, InsertName, Windkeeper0, MrL, Rhyno, Maribro
Not voted (3) - HydroPimp, LuminousLucas, LachlanF
Day 3
Final votes:
Aerodrome (5) - Maribro, AutumnWind, Rhyno, Insertname, cjeccjec
Maribro (8) - Aerodrome, Invisi, Ghostbone, MrL, HydroPimp, Windkeeper0, cAKE, BastyTho
Not voted (2) - Dyna_Hole, EIS-DUON Interestingly, only 3 people have voted for the person who was lynched each day, who are still alive.
cAKE, Aero and Windkeeper.
The first two days, cAKE and Aero were aggressive voters, voting close together (Aero being the starter of 2 bandwagons and the follower of 1 [first to follower].
Windkeeper on the other hand has joined each bandwagon later on, being one of the last to vote for each lynch.
I'd imagine it'd be a pretty safe tactic to try and have mafia vote on opposite ends of the bandwagon. Aero and cAKE are more aggresive players than Wind, which would make for an interesting mix of playstyles for a mafia team.
Also it'd be safe to assume that especially with laggy being lynch #1, all of the mafia members could join the bandwagon with 100% safety; even aero's survived this far with being very aggressive about it.
For this reason, I think it'd be safe to assume that Hydro, CJ, Autumnwind, Insert and I are less likely to be mafia. Why waste the opportunity of a free kill and night phase?
Windkeeper, cAKE and Basty all voting within a small timeframe and quickhammering Maribro is another thing to note. Assuming there is a traitor to fill out mafia numbers - my two guesses would be Duon or Basty. But there's not much for that.
Basty made a very traitor-y play with the quickhammer, especially after wind and cake voted; made no sense, came out of the blue, was scummy, but could be passed off as a gaff or inexperience, while still sending a strong signal to mafia.
Duon being much more aggressive in day 4 than in other days, suggesting players reveal roles? could be palmed off as a 'might as well suggest something' but also a strong (but weaker signal) to mafia that he could be a traitor.
There's more of a case for Basty than Duon, but Duon would definitely be the more dangerous player so we should be cautious moving forward.
9 years ago
Holy shit this is frustrating Vote for the child
9 years ago
9 years ago
I imagine with traitors, they would give a negative result to gunsmith before they're recruited, but confirmation from the gods if they're willing to give that would be nice.
Duon I know Invisi confirmed you town, but trying to rush votes through and ignoring the complexity of the situation and analysis other people give is very anti-town and makes you look more like the SK of this game or maybe even the proposed traitor.
Hydro should look much less suspicious to aero to anyone now, even if you don't believe our claims.
Aero has been at the start of every bandwagon and it's worked so far, are we going to fall for another Aero bandwagon on Hydropimp?
9 years ago
Duon I know Invisi confirmed you town, but trying to rush votes through and ignoring the complexity of the situation and analysis other people give is very anti-town and makes you look more like the SK of this game or maybe even the proposed traitor.
Hydro should look much less suspicious to aero to anyone now, even if you don't believe our claims.
Aero has been at the start of every bandwagon and it's worked so far, are we going to fall for another Aero bandwagon on Hydropimp?
9 years ago
@MrL I voted for laggy not really aggressively, i said i was pro lynch but I wouldn't push it. Day 2 I really thought Lachlan was mafia, soft claiming for no reason and not giving us any information. He defended himself really poorly, and had scummy behavior before. Day 3 I was convinced, but only until the whole Rhyno PM thing. And you can't call me out for 'partnering' with Aero, I called him out many times and I still think he's top 3 most likely mafia right now.
Yeah, the votes probably do look scummy but they were all done with good intention.
9 years ago
Yeah, the votes probably do look scummy but they were all done with good intention.
9 years ago
interesting data mr l. Anybody else remember aero pretty much said windkeeper had a powerole. It's very possible both are mafia and Aero said that to make sure windkeeper wouldnt be lynched since he was being inactive. People did say it was anti-town to point out someone was playing as if they had a powerole so. Mafia possibly right now is Aero, Windkeeper, Basty and one other.
9 years ago
9 years ago
Vote: Aero
9 years ago
9 years ago
Lol I'm not sure if mr l is mafia or just really dumb
I dont really have a counter argument. A neighborizor in a game with a masonizer is RETARDED stop believing the most stupidly impossible lie ever thought up in the history of mafia.
You guys call me out for deflecting attention on being mafia which is exactly what hydro has done.
Hydro has displayed typical mafia behavior all game, lurk, say nothing, lurk, oh its day 3 now my vote actually means something maribro totally isnt town!!
I can't believe they're trying to say that duon is mafia when the gunsmith has basically proved that he isnt, aside from maybe an SK.
Guys you can see how LUDICROUS this "defense" of theirs is cmon... You guys realise that masonizer and neighborizor are literally almost the same role right? It's like having two cops in a game, or a night vig and day vig in a game.
9 years ago
I dont really have a counter argument. A neighborizor in a game with a masonizer is RETARDED stop believing the most stupidly impossible lie ever thought up in the history of mafia.
You guys call me out for deflecting attention on being mafia which is exactly what hydro has done.
Hydro has displayed typical mafia behavior all game, lurk, say nothing, lurk, oh its day 3 now my vote actually means something maribro totally isnt town!!
I can't believe they're trying to say that duon is mafia when the gunsmith has basically proved that he isnt, aside from maybe an SK.
Guys you can see how LUDICROUS this "defense" of theirs is cmon... You guys realise that masonizer and neighborizor are literally almost the same role right? It's like having two cops in a game, or a night vig and day vig in a game.
9 years ago
yea i was surprised when there was a masonizer but yes there is both its not impossible. youre argument actually makes no sense, its probably more retarded that there is a watcher and a 1shot watcher in the same game but you dont want to call out ghost because you're on mafia with him? I dont think ghost i mafia but it's possible. you could say im distracting attention from myself but as aero has proven its a good strategy to not getting lynched when under pressure so why wouldnt i do it, mafia and town can do it to survive and i really dont want to die becaue im town.
9 years ago
9 years ago
Aerodrome said:
I dont really have a counter argument. A neighborizor in a game with a masonizer is RETARDED stop believing the most stupidly impossible lie ever thought up in the history of mafia.
Double up on roles isn't that unlikely with 20 people, and they're very functionally different roles m8. Cjeccjec already hinted that he was some sort of informed role so there's already double up in this game.
If the best defense you have is "Dean wouldn't do this," then I'm sorry but Dean did do this.
And nobody is calling Duon mafia, now youre just strawmanning to make other people look ridiculous. It is technically possible that he's SK or something though, and ruling things impossible that are possible is silly in mafia. Attempts to play out of game trying to predict what Dean would or wouldn't do are retarded imo because he's OBVIOUSLY going to throw in some curveballs so you can't do that.
9 years ago
By the way Vic has a weekly on Friday and Ranbat on Saturday so most of vic plus ghost and aero should be less active
9 years ago
9 years ago
Yeah, I'll defs be afk most of the weekend. SAS, Ranbat then focusing on making the 40. I'll explain my logic when I get back, but I just urge that no one lynches anyone during this weekend we have to be absolutely sure on this one. With 5 of the games main players right now focusing on smash, I think it would be best to wait it out. I'm gonna reflect about all this over the weekend and hopefully victorians ft ghost and aero can come back with some solid ideas
9 years ago
9 years ago
Ghostbone said:
I imagine with traitors, they would give a negative result to gunsmith before they're recruited, but confirmation from the gods if they're willing to give that would be nice.
A traitor would receive an innocent result if checked by a gunsmith.
Gunsmith would get a negative result on any other mafia without specific investigation-proof abilities as well as from cops.
9 years ago
remember, if you ask someone if they're a cop, they need to answer truthfully. I heard this on MSN.
9 years ago
9 years ago
Sorry for the wall of text.
So I don't have to do this later, because of Lachlan's Pokken game voting on Qld smash is super weird for me, in this game. If you weren't aware I was given a role which only allowed for me to vote when I was hammering someone and I realise now that I've been thinking of a vote only as my final thought.
In this game I've been telling my thoughts before I vote then when I am sure I've been voting so that is partly why I voted later against Maribro and Lachlan.
All of the lynches made sense to me at the time:
-Laggy has historically been a bad player. At first I wanted there to be a lot more discussion but I realised nothing was going to happen that day anyway so I voted for him to get the game rolling. I wasn't one of the last to vote on this one btw.
-Lachlan wasn't really suspicious enough for me to vote for him at first, but after he soft claimed and started to say how much of a loss it would be for town to kill him, I voted for him since I felt it was super suspicious.
-With Maribro I was thinking that lynching him was the best idea for town early on in the day because the evidence against him. I was conflicted however because if we had a couple more days we could have seen how many kills happened the following night and assess Maribro's innocence from there. Of course in hindsight, the mafia could have just not killed anyone that night and it would have been the same result.
9 years ago
So I don't have to do this later, because of Lachlan's Pokken game voting on Qld smash is super weird for me, in this game. If you weren't aware I was given a role which only allowed for me to vote when I was hammering someone and I realise now that I've been thinking of a vote only as my final thought.
In this game I've been telling my thoughts before I vote then when I am sure I've been voting so that is partly why I voted later against Maribro and Lachlan.
All of the lynches made sense to me at the time:
-Laggy has historically been a bad player. At first I wanted there to be a lot more discussion but I realised nothing was going to happen that day anyway so I voted for him to get the game rolling. I wasn't one of the last to vote on this one btw.
-Lachlan wasn't really suspicious enough for me to vote for him at first, but after he soft claimed and started to say how much of a loss it would be for town to kill him, I voted for him since I felt it was super suspicious.
-With Maribro I was thinking that lynching him was the best idea for town early on in the day because the evidence against him. I was conflicted however because if we had a couple more days we could have seen how many kills happened the following night and assess Maribro's innocence from there. Of course in hindsight, the mafia could have just not killed anyone that night and it would have been the same result.
9 years ago
Gonna do an assessment on aero.
I've said what I can about Ghost but there's no solid evidence against him. I think if Hydro proved to be Mafia we could assume so is Ghost.
I'll be waiting on what Duon has to say for Hydropimp but it's looking like we'll have a slow weekend. Actually i'm too lazy :P but aero says smart things, then just says dumb things. Wiiieeerrrddd
9 years ago
I've said what I can about Ghost but there's no solid evidence against him. I think if Hydro proved to be Mafia we could assume so is Ghost.
I'll be waiting on what Duon has to say for Hydropimp but it's looking like we'll have a slow weekend. Actually i'm too lazy :P but aero says smart things, then just says dumb things. Wiiieeerrrddd
9 years ago
Basically Aero has
-been super aggressive
-has been shifting blame a lot
-in day 1 or 2 he was switching votes pretty quickly
-has made up things in order to get people lynched. made things up*
9 years ago
-been super aggressive
-has been shifting blame a lot
-in day 1 or 2 he was switching votes pretty quickly
-has made up things in order to get people lynched. made things up*
9 years ago
It's my first time playing town so I'm kinda bad at it I'll be honest. I wont really be able to respond all weekend cos victoria hyppeeee
9 years ago
9 years ago
There's no reason to believe you at all honeslty.
You've been aggressive and adament on all three lynches, which all flipped town.
Why would it change this time? There's no proof or anything, just the same 'trust me I'm town' crap.
We've been too lenient with your anti-town behaviour tbh.
Sucks the game's pretty much a stand-still for the weekend.
Hopefully Duon has something for when he comes back
9 years ago
You've been aggressive and adament on all three lynches, which all flipped town.
Why would it change this time? There's no proof or anything, just the same 'trust me I'm town' crap.
We've been too lenient with your anti-town behaviour tbh.
Sucks the game's pretty much a stand-still for the weekend.
Hopefully Duon has something for when he comes back
9 years ago
I'll be at a tourney on Saturday, just letting you guys know. I completely agree with what MrL's been saying, and I'm convinced that Aero's Mafia. On the off chance that he flips town, we can vote Hydro or look for the SK. We just need to be aware of how much time we have to beat Mafia. Also, I can't believe Aero has avoided getting lynched for so long. His excuses are tiring and he has been nothing but unhelpful IMO.
VOTE: Aerodrome
9 years ago
VOTE: Aerodrome
9 years ago
Please don't put anymore votes on me, I'd rather the mafia not quickhammer for the win hey.
9 years ago
9 years ago
still think aero is mafia but im unvoting until sunday
Vote:Unvote
9 years ago
Vote:Unvote
9 years ago
replace me, i'm not checking the thread nearly as much as i should. :/
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9 years ago