I'd like to know why CJ is more suspicious of Ghost, than Aero or Maribro atm
11/22/2016 08:29:21
If the masonizer targeted a Mafia member the action would fail.
11/22/2016 08:29:42
11/22/2016 08:29:42
dean said:
If the masonizer targeted a Mafia member the action would fail.
Does the masoniser die?
11/22/2016 08:30:41
So if the action were to fail, I don't believe Maribro would not have gotten any message, Spacejam would have just died.
11/22/2016 08:31:14
11/22/2016 08:31:14
so the only other person who got info saying what happens when mazinor does somthing is rhyno who has been clearly defended and on maribros side? somebody else so it, see what dean says.
11/22/2016 08:32:24
11/22/2016 08:32:24
even if he did get the message I can't see a way to prove that he did
11/22/2016 08:32:59
11/22/2016 08:32:59
Guys, Masonizer isn't that hard to understand.
Person masonizer targets becomes mason with masonizer if town, otherwise if it's mafia then they die.
11/22/2016 08:39:11
Person masonizer targets becomes mason with masonizer if town, otherwise if it's mafia then they die.
11/22/2016 08:39:11
InsertName said:
even if he did get the message I can't see a way to prove that he did
I think that it mainly comes from Maribro's poor defense of himself. I'm sure if he was mafia he would have had a much better idea on what the role did expecting there to be a lot of messages on the case. It's not definitive proof but it's definitely something.
11/22/2016 08:42:09
I don't see how a poor defence is proof of innocence, nor do I consider it a poor defence.
My theory is that Maribro felt under pressure because we could easily work out he was visited by spacejam, and come to the conclusion that's why spacejam died.
It looks a lot better if he admits that right away (though aero even accused him of it before he admitted?), so he can claim it's just a coincidence.
11/22/2016 08:54:35
My theory is that Maribro felt under pressure because we could easily work out he was visited by spacejam, and come to the conclusion that's why spacejam died.
It looks a lot better if he admits that right away (though aero even accused him of it before he admitted?), so he can claim it's just a coincidence.
11/22/2016 08:54:35
Maribro said:Yes.
dean said:
If the masonizer targeted a Mafia member the action would fail.
Does the masoniser die?
11/22/2016 08:56:10
Right now Maribro is essentially claiming Miller (not literally, its just similar), and while before today I would have considered him less suspicious than invisi/aero/myself, I dont think we can just call anything incriminating a coincidence.
The simplest solution is often the correct one. Sure, there could be two killing factions, and they either targeted the same person (very unlikely) night one, or a doctor blocked a kill (less likely but possible), and then night two they happened to kill spacejam the same night he visits Maribro, but this is a more complex and less likely answer than Maribro just being maf.
11/22/2016 09:00:50
The simplest solution is often the correct one. Sure, there could be two killing factions, and they either targeted the same person (very unlikely) night one, or a doctor blocked a kill (less likely but possible), and then night two they happened to kill spacejam the same night he visits Maribro, but this is a more complex and less likely answer than Maribro just being maf.
11/22/2016 09:00:50
I feel like whether we kill Aero or we kill Maribro on this day will show the true circumstances happening in the night phases. If we don't kill Maribro we will get information on him from the lynch of Aero and the night phase and vice versa.
I suppose it comes down to what you value more, i mainly just mentioned the way messages work with the masonry because it insinuates that Maribro is more likely to be town than mafia if he were to receive the message about the masonry from Dean.
I feel like while Maribro has more evidence against him he has offered a lot more to town being upfront with everything.
While I feel like Aero has often been avoiding accusations and starting the bandwagon on Lachlan despite there being more evidence against him at the time and Lachlan actually made a reasonable claim onto Aero which he ignored and then created a bandwagon against Lachlan which proved to be successful because of the poor job he did at defending himself and was considered a weaker player. Thats meant to say that, Maribro has offered alot more to town*
11/22/2016 09:12:29
I suppose it comes down to what you value more, i mainly just mentioned the way messages work with the masonry because it insinuates that Maribro is more likely to be town than mafia if he were to receive the message about the masonry from Dean.
I feel like while Maribro has more evidence against him he has offered a lot more to town being upfront with everything.
While I feel like Aero has often been avoiding accusations and starting the bandwagon on Lachlan despite there being more evidence against him at the time and Lachlan actually made a reasonable claim onto Aero which he ignored and then created a bandwagon against Lachlan which proved to be successful because of the poor job he did at defending himself and was considered a weaker player. Thats meant to say that, Maribro has offered alot more to town*
11/22/2016 09:12:29
Ghost is the only person talking any sense at the moment. Maribro isn't guaranteed to be mafia, but it's quite likely given the evidence we have at hand, and he's the best suspect we have. I would not support a motion against anyone else today.
That said, I'm not against delaying the day slightly, particularly because there are still a few people we haven't heard from in a while (Basty and Dyna have yet to post today).
11/22/2016 09:12:38
That said, I'm not against delaying the day slightly, particularly because there are still a few people we haven't heard from in a while (Basty and Dyna have yet to post today).
11/22/2016 09:12:38
Invisi said:wtf man that just what i said like 5 pages a go
Ghost is the only person talking any sense at the moment. Maribro isn't guaranteed to be mafia, but it's quite likely given the evidence we have at hand, and he's the best suspect we have. I would not support a motion against anyone else today.
That said, I'm not against delaying the day slightly, particularly because there are still a few people we haven't heard from in a while (Basty and Dyna have yet to post today).
11/22/2016 09:14:43
Lynching me has a very good chance of causing Lylo and tomorrow depending on what happens overnight so if you really want that, Invisi then I guess you should spend the rest of today planning what to do once you're all in lylo
11/22/2016 09:21:33
11/22/2016 09:21:33
I'm sorry I missed quite a bit of stuff while travelling home from work. I skimmed the pages but most of it was so dumb that I felt the need to comment. Post was in response to Hydro btw.
11/22/2016 09:22:22
11/22/2016 09:22:22
What's lylo.
11/22/2016 09:24:12
11/22/2016 09:24:12
Rhyno said:where if you don't lynch a mafia member then you lose
What's lylo.
11/22/2016 09:25:54
Maribro who do you think are mafia
11/22/2016 10:58:46
11/22/2016 10:58:46
Dean and I are probably going to start looking at replacing Dyna Hole and Basty in the next day or so. If you two want to keep playing then pls respond.
If any of you guys know how to get in contact with either of them you may wish to let them know they'll be replaced soon without any additional activity.
11/22/2016 11:46:45
If any of you guys know how to get in contact with either of them you may wish to let them know they'll be replaced soon without any additional activity.
11/22/2016 11:46:45
hi
time to read
11/22/2016 12:07:38
time to read
11/22/2016 12:07:38
Sorry guys, my internet died. I just finished reading this and what I don't understand is that everyone is voting Maribro and then saying that we can lynch Aero based on what Maribro flips or vice versa. Losing Maribro is a much bigger loss than losing Aero, especially if Maribro flips town. If Maribro flips town, that's a bigger loss than losing Aero IMO. I'm not outruling the possibility of both of them being Maf though.
Well, I'm going to sleep now, so good night.
11/22/2016 12:37:24
Well, I'm going to sleep now, so good night.
11/22/2016 12:37:24
After consideration, as ghost said, we do have to go with the most evident case. There's is no one else more likely to be Mafia, based on evidence. He's our best chance at guessing right.
The only reason not to lynch him would be to see what another night holds, which would give us more info on Maribro being Mafia or not.
The only problem with lynching someone else would be that it would mostly be a hard read. If lynching wrong would take is into lylo, at least if we don't lynch Maribro this day, based on the evidence from the next night, we could make a much more informed case against Maribro and more than likely guarantee a Mafia lynch the next day.
(I know... My sentence structure is pretty atrocious. My bad)
I personally think we should lynch aero this day and use the information from the night to make a decision against Maribro for the next day.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, aero is basically just accusing everyone without solid reasons. (Except Maribro obviously.) His only saving grace for me is that he chimes in with a good comment every now and then (I think?). Unless he honestly plays town by accusing everyone and just hoping they're Mafia he doesn't seem to be trying to help things work out. He has pushed both previous lynches very strongly and none of the lynches were of the Mafia.
Either way one have them practically has to be Mafia. I think aero is the Mafia and to keep him for discussion the next day will influence us to lynch for the Mafia again.
I just don't think Maribro is Mafia.
11/22/2016 12:50:26
The only reason not to lynch him would be to see what another night holds, which would give us more info on Maribro being Mafia or not.
The only problem with lynching someone else would be that it would mostly be a hard read. If lynching wrong would take is into lylo, at least if we don't lynch Maribro this day, based on the evidence from the next night, we could make a much more informed case against Maribro and more than likely guarantee a Mafia lynch the next day.
(I know... My sentence structure is pretty atrocious. My bad)
I personally think we should lynch aero this day and use the information from the night to make a decision against Maribro for the next day.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, aero is basically just accusing everyone without solid reasons. (Except Maribro obviously.) His only saving grace for me is that he chimes in with a good comment every now and then (I think?). Unless he honestly plays town by accusing everyone and just hoping they're Mafia he doesn't seem to be trying to help things work out. He has pushed both previous lynches very strongly and none of the lynches were of the Mafia.
Either way one have them practically has to be Mafia. I think aero is the Mafia and to keep him for discussion the next day will influence us to lynch for the Mafia again.
I just don't think Maribro is Mafia.
11/22/2016 12:50:26
From what I have read in the past 5 pages and half an hour, I believe the same as everyone else, either Maribro or Aero are maf. I have to put maribro under sus because of how tenacious he was about being town and throwing all the flak onto aero making him seem even more distrusting.
Aero has been a fan of lynching people kinda willy-nilly and picking up people's mistakes, throwing them on the wall, see if they stick, taking them off the wall and into someones face. Logic leaps are a thing he does from time to time ( and it generally makes no sense), i seriously believe he should refrain from thisas it makes someone seem rather desperate to make someone suspicious.
blah blah blah, lynch one and see what flips etc. etc. etc.
on another note, Hydro really want Maribro dead, i think that's a little too obsessive.
NOW that is my opinion, take it with a grain of salt. my first relevant post!
11/22/2016 12:51:06
Maribro said:
Have fun being lynched tomorrow when I flip town.
Maribro said:
By all means rush another lynch and kill another townie and play more and more into the mafia's (Aero xox) hands.
Please don't make the same mistake 3 nights in a row
Maribro said:
Yeah I'm voting for you because you're maf and should have been lynched yesterday. If town is so oblivious as to let you control them for a third consecutive day then GG WP but I'm not going down without a fight and should I be lynched I don't want to say I didn't tell you so. You could also read this as "I'm going to target Maribro tonight, so maf please whatever you do kill me". Spacejam lacking in subtlety there fam. I made no mention of becoming Mason because you killed Spacejam last night. Simple as Aero. Give up this whole town guise already.
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Simple as this guys, this is a shit spot for any player to be in and if I was someone else, I'd probably be voting for me too. The fact is though, I am town and I have been caught in a really fucking shitty circumstance. If you let Aero/Invisi control you for yet another day, odds are we're gonna lose this game town. Is that a risk all 10 of you actual townies are willing to make? If so, go ahead, lynch me. There's nothing more I can really add or say to defend myself. The evidence is well and truly stacked against me here but you have to believe me right now and stand by me and lynch Aero.
Aero has been a fan of lynching people kinda willy-nilly and picking up people's mistakes, throwing them on the wall, see if they stick, taking them off the wall and into someones face. Logic leaps are a thing he does from time to time ( and it generally makes no sense), i seriously believe he should refrain from thisas it makes someone seem rather desperate to make someone suspicious.
Aerodrome said:
Ya of course you knew he tried to target you, it isn't rocket science. You (MAFIA) killed LuminousLucas which left an unexplainable death on the map because Spacejam targeted you during the night and died.
blah blah blah, lynch one and see what flips etc. etc. etc.
on another note, Hydro really want Maribro dead, i think that's a little too obsessive.
NOW that is my opinion, take it with a grain of salt. my first relevant post!
11/22/2016 12:51:06
What I said may sounds contradictory but basically I was generalising it trying to keep it with reasonable bias. Then staying my opinion. What I said may sound contradictory but basically I was generalising it trying to keep it with reasonable bias. Then stating my opinion.*
Bloody hell im bad at english and miss the edit button.
11/22/2016 12:54:32
Bloody hell im bad at english and miss the edit button.
11/22/2016 12:54:32