Vote: HydroPimp
Yeah all the reasons people have been saying.
12/01/2016 11:49:47
hello friends i promise to continue the legacy of mish mash so let's go.
Vote: HydroPimp
basically at this point either almost all the power players (maribro, duon, aero) are wrong and the mafia have literally zero good players (ghost) and have coasted by saying nothing whatsoever while everyone kills themselves... or hydro / ghost are mafia. much more likely to be the former.
at this point i reckon we should start looking at people's post / vote history cause in the end we have to kill all the mafia members and not just hydro and ghost. i've been following this game and my best bet is insert, but i'd be interested to see how mrL voted with autumnwind also a bit sus in my eyes. being so inactive that you receive strikes and people assume you're an uncaring townie would be a pretty cool strat... but i don't think its likely. and by former i mean latter. forgive me for i am on my phone in adelaide and will be for the next few days or so.
12/01/2016 12:14:00
Vote: HydroPimp
basically at this point either almost all the power players (maribro, duon, aero) are wrong and the mafia have literally zero good players (ghost) and have coasted by saying nothing whatsoever while everyone kills themselves... or hydro / ghost are mafia. much more likely to be the former.
at this point i reckon we should start looking at people's post / vote history cause in the end we have to kill all the mafia members and not just hydro and ghost. i've been following this game and my best bet is insert, but i'd be interested to see how mrL voted with autumnwind also a bit sus in my eyes. being so inactive that you receive strikes and people assume you're an uncaring townie would be a pretty cool strat... but i don't think its likely. and by former i mean latter. forgive me for i am on my phone in adelaide and will be for the next few days or so.
12/01/2016 12:14:00
If I recall correctly there was some thing ages back where Insert and Ghost basically said the same thing (saying eachother were most likely town and that the same people were mafia) at almost the same time. Could've been a communication error if a post like that was organised, but could easily be coincidence.
12/01/2016 12:30:33
12/01/2016 12:30:33
Already better than cAKE
Kappa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Mr L are you referring to this?
Just want to note that thus far insert has still been very suspicious of Hydro, whereas Ghost has been protecting him. (Neighbouriser I guess).
I don't think mafia would voice any suspicions about eachother, I dunno.
12/01/2016 12:59:18
Kappa ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Mr L are you referring to this?
Ghostbone said:
Gonna give my 2 cents, though I don't want to make in depth judgments of people when it's only day 2.
If I had to pick some people that raised my suspicions it would be Hydropimp and Aero, while Insert and Maribro seem reasonably pro town
InsertName said:I don't think its means too much personally, coincidence imo. Aero was a very obvious suspicion and Hydro had his heavy lurking.
I've been a bit quiet recently because a lot of people are throwing shots around with the argument "They're playing like they did when they were Mafia" which I can't really get behind. Right now in regards to the Luminous lynch I can see people like Corvid or perhaps Autumn getting behind it. Duon did point me out but as he stated I'd be a bit more reserved with my kill. For people who I think are a bit suss right now are Hydro because I'm 95% sure he was lurching and people have pointed out that Mafia can remain quite for now, and Aero because of anti town behaviour and he keeps trying to avoid all shots at him and even memeing around.
Vote: Aero oh lol didn't even realise I picked out the same 2 people as ghost
Just want to note that thus far insert has still been very suspicious of Hydro, whereas Ghost has been protecting him. (Neighbouriser I guess).
I don't think mafia would voice any suspicions about eachother, I dunno.
12/01/2016 12:59:18
fuck i didnt see all these posts on page 40. this is a response to AutumWinds post.
Ghost didnt claim I 'may' be a 1shot neighbourizer. He said i was one, because when you neighbourize somebody you can talk to them at night. Surprisingly enough when I made him my neighbour we talked to each other and gave each other our roles. You're wrong and ghost wasnt really getting negative attention. I was being pressured and wasn't able to post so Ghost told everybody my role to get pressure off of me since he knew i was town. I confirmed and told everybody ghost's role that he told me he was. How was going after Maribro a 'safe lynch'? The maribro lynch was risky as hell because if we were wrong then a good player got killed. But the evidence pointed to him being Mafia so that's why we lynched him. You saying that ghost said my role and i claimed it makes us mafia makes zero sense. Say we were mafia and were trying to set me up to make me look like a Neighbourizer. What would be the difference when we are neighbours and ghost is just trying to protect somebody he knows is town? Just because Maribro said in his death to go after me doesn't mean anything. That would only be relevant if he was revealed as some kind of information role like Invisi was. Mairbro saying go after me is the same as any other townie and I can see why Maribro said that since i was very aggro against him. The reason i went so hard on Maribro was because i thought he was mafia and i knew he would put up very good defense and the only way to brake through that was hard offense. Somebody unvote I think Basty and Windkeeper are both mafia and im 2 votes away from being hammered and we all know Basty is a quick hammerer. Wanting this day to end quickly is anti-town even if you think i am mafia.
12/01/2016 13:11:32
Ghost didnt claim I 'may' be a 1shot neighbourizer. He said i was one, because when you neighbourize somebody you can talk to them at night. Surprisingly enough when I made him my neighbour we talked to each other and gave each other our roles. You're wrong and ghost wasnt really getting negative attention. I was being pressured and wasn't able to post so Ghost told everybody my role to get pressure off of me since he knew i was town. I confirmed and told everybody ghost's role that he told me he was. How was going after Maribro a 'safe lynch'? The maribro lynch was risky as hell because if we were wrong then a good player got killed. But the evidence pointed to him being Mafia so that's why we lynched him. You saying that ghost said my role and i claimed it makes us mafia makes zero sense. Say we were mafia and were trying to set me up to make me look like a Neighbourizer. What would be the difference when we are neighbours and ghost is just trying to protect somebody he knows is town? Just because Maribro said in his death to go after me doesn't mean anything. That would only be relevant if he was revealed as some kind of information role like Invisi was. Mairbro saying go after me is the same as any other townie and I can see why Maribro said that since i was very aggro against him. The reason i went so hard on Maribro was because i thought he was mafia and i knew he would put up very good defense and the only way to brake through that was hard offense. Somebody unvote I think Basty and Windkeeper are both mafia and im 2 votes away from being hammered and we all know Basty is a quick hammerer. Wanting this day to end quickly is anti-town even if you think i am mafia.
12/01/2016 13:11:32
Vote: Unvote Vote: BastyTho
imo unless Ghost (and Hydro) have pulled a godlike mafia play, their neighbourizer claims make alot of sense.
I want to revisit a certain quick hammerer
12/01/2016 13:17:40
imo unless Ghost (and Hydro) have pulled a godlike mafia play, their neighbourizer claims make alot of sense.
I want to revisit a certain quick hammerer
12/01/2016 13:17:40
Be very careful with your votes, if too many people vote for someone, Mafia can quickhammer.
That's the main reason I'm suspicious or MrL at this point, throwing votes around when mafia can very quickly hammer someone is pretty dangerous.
12/01/2016 13:29:18
That's the main reason I'm suspicious or MrL at this point, throwing votes around when mafia can very quickly hammer someone is pretty dangerous.
12/01/2016 13:29:18
After a very quick checkup on Basty here is what i've found...
Basty's participation has been tiny and Coincidentally (Or... D: maybe not) every vote/opinion Basty has made has been against a towny. (Except his opinion on Aero)
12/01/2016 13:35:09
Basty's participation has been tiny and Coincidentally (Or... D: maybe not) every vote/opinion Basty has made has been against a towny. (Except his opinion on Aero)
12/01/2016 13:35:09
Yeah that looks like the one o messages.
Yeah that was to CJ You could say the vote was a bit hasty, but you need to apply pressure. If other people want to vote as well that's their choice not mine.
Interesting to note though is that mafia had the chance to quick hammer him to win the game, but didn't.
Maybe they were unlucky and just weren't on, but I'd assume mafia would be some of the more active players that would seize on such an opportunity.
It's just too strange. You must admit you two being neighbourizers is just odd. A neatly packed alibi that can't be proven or disproven. It's too perfect.
The only thing that could be considered a flaw is the fact you claimed 1-shot watcher when we already had one but that could easily be the truth.
12/01/2016 14:43:14
Yeah that was to CJ You could say the vote was a bit hasty, but you need to apply pressure. If other people want to vote as well that's their choice not mine.
Interesting to note though is that mafia had the chance to quick hammer him to win the game, but didn't.
Maybe they were unlucky and just weren't on, but I'd assume mafia would be some of the more active players that would seize on such an opportunity.
It's just too strange. You must admit you two being neighbourizers is just odd. A neatly packed alibi that can't be proven or disproven. It's too perfect.
The only thing that could be considered a flaw is the fact you claimed 1-shot watcher when we already had one but that could easily be the truth.
12/01/2016 14:43:14
cjeccjec i think you are overthinking this. what exactly makes you reluctant to go after the hydro/ghost duo? their role claim seems very shaky and they only accuse people who target them; from a theoretical hydro/ghost perspective where they're both town, trying to place suspicion onto duon of all people makes absolutely no sense and is a completely needless yolo gambit from the perspective of two experienced players. trying to frame a confirmed townie by gunsmith instead of ANYONE ELSE... what
12/01/2016 15:15:27
12/01/2016 15:15:27
I just can't get around their neighbourizer claim. It's very one way or the other. Plus we'll have to get to other Mafia at some point anyway so I don't mind checking out other options.
Remember when everyone was so sure of Maribro? Yeah his evidence for or against him was very much based on what the majority decided to guess (albeit a little more so convincing to him being Mafia)
I'm trying to consider everything. See if they aren't lying then they would have every reason to challenge Duon because his suspicious were/are (/might be?) wrong. It's difficult to try and defend yourself without passing on your suspicions against someone who is accusing you. I do have to say they have been acting very, um how to put this, like aggressive or defensive? Just curious how was your night 4 chat Ghost and Hydro? Upon review hydro went very hard on Duon, barely (I don't think at all) considering his no gun. Ghost mentioned, Duon teaming to take down hydro, as suspicious but mentioned that Duon is 95% town. Hmm
I don't see why Hydro would be acting like this. Kinda irrational. I'll keep my vote on Basty to stop any quick hammering but I'm all for a hydro lynch. God damn am I indecisive or easily swayed sometimes. I dare say I'll stick with this opinion till more comes up. Also about Ghost's one shot claim. Sounds suspicious to me because he used it as his reason for going for a Maribro lynch.
It wouldn't matter anyway because Maribro admitted to being targetted. Looks like maybe Hydro was adding details to make it more convincing, while also making Ghost seem more town by justifying his support for the Maribro lynch.
Actually if no one targetted Maribro that would have been better because that would have meant Maribro was outright lying. Regardless, Why did Ghost target Maribro? I guess because Maribro is a stronger player it can be reasoned but still.
I don't see why Ghost would have been thinking like this. When I say thinking like this I'm referring to the Maribro lynch not necessarily his 1 shot watch on Maribro.
12/01/2016 16:29:22
Remember when everyone was so sure of Maribro? Yeah his evidence for or against him was very much based on what the majority decided to guess (albeit a little more so convincing to him being Mafia)
I'm trying to consider everything. See if they aren't lying then they would have every reason to challenge Duon because his suspicious were/are (/might be?) wrong. It's difficult to try and defend yourself without passing on your suspicions against someone who is accusing you. I do have to say they have been acting very, um how to put this, like aggressive or defensive? Just curious how was your night 4 chat Ghost and Hydro? Upon review hydro went very hard on Duon, barely (I don't think at all) considering his no gun. Ghost mentioned, Duon teaming to take down hydro, as suspicious but mentioned that Duon is 95% town. Hmm
I don't see why Hydro would be acting like this. Kinda irrational. I'll keep my vote on Basty to stop any quick hammering but I'm all for a hydro lynch. God damn am I indecisive or easily swayed sometimes. I dare say I'll stick with this opinion till more comes up. Also about Ghost's one shot claim. Sounds suspicious to me because he used it as his reason for going for a Maribro lynch.
It wouldn't matter anyway because Maribro admitted to being targetted. Looks like maybe Hydro was adding details to make it more convincing, while also making Ghost seem more town by justifying his support for the Maribro lynch.
Actually if no one targetted Maribro that would have been better because that would have meant Maribro was outright lying. Regardless, Why did Ghost target Maribro? I guess because Maribro is a stronger player it can be reasoned but still.
I don't see why Ghost would have been thinking like this. When I say thinking like this I'm referring to the Maribro lynch not necessarily his 1 shot watch on Maribro.
12/01/2016 16:29:22
OK, my vote was purely to pressure him into a response like I said, and his response was actually very convincing. My idea was to see how he would respond to my post and react from there, if his response was weak and didn't make sense, I would have pushed the vote. This is not the case. I'm goint to take a step back and VOTE: Unvote. Hydro and Ghost could still be Maf, it just doesn't seem as likely.
Guys, we need to be very careful. At this point if we lynch more than one townies before eliminating the Maf, they win (assuming there are four members of the Maf). As much as I like to think that everyone here has exhibited at least some pro-town behaviour, 3-4 of us are scum.
P.S. Just realized something. If Hydro and Ghost are both most likely clean, Ghost can't be Maf with Insert because obviously Ghost is probably town. That means that if the Mafia are playing us SUPER hard right now, the whole team of them could be Hydro, Ghost and Insert. This can also mean that they're all town as well though. Either way, I wanna pressure Insert and see what he has to say about this.
VOTE: InsertName
12/01/2016 20:49:59
Guys, we need to be very careful. At this point if we lynch more than one townies before eliminating the Maf, they win (assuming there are four members of the Maf). As much as I like to think that everyone here has exhibited at least some pro-town behaviour, 3-4 of us are scum.
P.S. Just realized something. If Hydro and Ghost are both most likely clean, Ghost can't be Maf with Insert because obviously Ghost is probably town. That means that if the Mafia are playing us SUPER hard right now, the whole team of them could be Hydro, Ghost and Insert. This can also mean that they're all town as well though. Either way, I wanna pressure Insert and see what he has to say about this.
VOTE: InsertName
12/01/2016 20:49:59
Firstly I'd like to that this weekend will probably slow down a lot because of SXC, lynching before that is really dumb and as others have already pointed out we shouldn't let people be at L1 or L2.
Next I would like to say that I want to be good at mafia, I really do. Last time I played I was no help and was mostly inactive, in the Discord game I tried to help but mostly just fell for traps and baits so in this game I'm trying to play openly and being careful which right now is super important.
Regarding the current situation it really seems like Hydro is mafia imo I've said it before and I'll say it again Hydro is pretty much a confirmed lurcher and has been called out on numerous occasions, during the earlier days a lot of people pointed out that Mafia didn't need to do much and just ride off of what Aero and Maribro said. All of this sums up to Hydro likely just lurching and watching and not doing much while townies get lynched. Then the Maribro scene happened and all of a sudden Hydro is super active and really adamant about lynching Maribro without really a second thought, I tried calling him out on this but he just claimed that school was over and that he could talk, Then where was he on other days. On top of that he makes a really dodgy claim with Ghost claiming Neighbourizer with a Masonizer in the game and Ghost claims 1 shot watcher with already a watcher. Finally Aero also said that Hydro was acting similarly to when he was mafia.
If you ask me I think this is enough
Vote: Hydro Actually Vote: Unvote just to avoid hammers but I'm pretty sure that Hydro is mafia. It might also be worth looking at Ghost more because if he pops up mafia there is a really good chance Hydro is.
12/01/2016 22:12:04
Next I would like to say that I want to be good at mafia, I really do. Last time I played I was no help and was mostly inactive, in the Discord game I tried to help but mostly just fell for traps and baits so in this game I'm trying to play openly and being careful which right now is super important.
Regarding the current situation it really seems like Hydro is mafia imo I've said it before and I'll say it again Hydro is pretty much a confirmed lurcher and has been called out on numerous occasions, during the earlier days a lot of people pointed out that Mafia didn't need to do much and just ride off of what Aero and Maribro said. All of this sums up to Hydro likely just lurching and watching and not doing much while townies get lynched. Then the Maribro scene happened and all of a sudden Hydro is super active and really adamant about lynching Maribro without really a second thought, I tried calling him out on this but he just claimed that school was over and that he could talk, Then where was he on other days. On top of that he makes a really dodgy claim with Ghost claiming Neighbourizer with a Masonizer in the game and Ghost claims 1 shot watcher with already a watcher. Finally Aero also said that Hydro was acting similarly to when he was mafia.
If you ask me I think this is enough
Vote: Hydro Actually Vote: Unvote just to avoid hammers but I'm pretty sure that Hydro is mafia. It might also be worth looking at Ghost more because if he pops up mafia there is a really good chance Hydro is.
12/01/2016 22:12:04
If Hydro is mafia then Ghost basically is mafia as well.
If Ghost is mafia then Hydro is "probably" mafia as well.
12/01/2016 22:33:52
If Ghost is mafia then Hydro is "probably" mafia as well.
12/01/2016 22:33:52
I will be in Adelaide for the weekend so please direct any queries to Bijou for that time.
12/01/2016 23:58:24
12/01/2016 23:58:24
cjeccjec said:
Vote: Unvote Vote: BastyTho
imo unless Ghost (and Hydro) have pulled a godlike mafia play, their neighbourizer claims make alot of sense.
I want to revisit a certain quick hammerer
OK so I'm just gonna say that while I have played Mafia before, I'm not an experienced player and the quick hammer was just an idiotic move by me.
Will i quick hammer now? No, I've learnt.
I don't know who to lean towards atm and it kinda just seems like a rush to kill someone before SXC imo
12/02/2016 04:40:22
My exams are over so I'll be more active now. I'm still thinking Hydro or ghost at the moment but of course I won't be voting, at least until this weekend is over. The fact that there are 3 votes on hydro and that there has to be at least 3 mafia seems odd to me, when a quick lynch could happen quite easily. It's looking like either the mafia doesn't want to vote for him because he's one of them or some of the mafia have already done so and are waiting for town to get rid of him.
12/02/2016 07:06:38
12/02/2016 07:06:38
That's a fair point. Given the circumstances, I'd assume the latter is more likely.
A third possibility is that assuming he is part of mafia, other mafia members could vote for him to seem town if/when he flips town. Unlikely and not necessary, but if the mafia are super cautious about being caught out they might try that.
But imo, assuming that CJ, Autumnwind and I are town, mafia would rather quick-hammer him if he was town and get a certain win. They had a chance to do that and did not. if/when he flips mafia* kek
12/02/2016 08:15:32
A third possibility is that assuming he is part of mafia, other mafia members could vote for him to seem town if/when he flips town. Unlikely and not necessary, but if the mafia are super cautious about being caught out they might try that.
But imo, assuming that CJ, Autumnwind and I are town, mafia would rather quick-hammer him if he was town and get a certain win. They had a chance to do that and did not. if/when he flips mafia* kek
12/02/2016 08:15:32
If mafia doesn't quickhammer fast enough, previous voters can unvote and the mafia members become obvious.
Seems too dangerous to go for if some of their members are inactive.
12/02/2016 08:18:15
Seems too dangerous to go for if some of their members are inactive.
12/02/2016 08:18:15
That's true.
Running with that theory, couldn't we narrow down who the inactive mafia could have been?
E.g. Dyna, Insert and Basty who weren't there when votes/posts were being made at the time.
12/02/2016 08:26:58
Running with that theory, couldn't we narrow down who the inactive mafia could have been?
E.g. Dyna, Insert and Basty who weren't there when votes/posts were being made at the time.
12/02/2016 08:26:58
I'm most suspicious of Basty for obvious reasons.
12/02/2016 08:32:33
12/02/2016 08:32:33
VOTE: Unvote
No need to keep my vote on Insert. He is actually playing a little like me right now, so I can't say anything. Coincidences happen in Mafia.
12/02/2016 23:58:32
No need to keep my vote on Insert. He is actually playing a little like me right now, so I can't say anything. Coincidences happen in Mafia.
12/02/2016 23:58:32
are there any suspicions to me besides the quick hammer and inactivity?
cause theres a fair few inactive people other than myself lmoa
12/03/2016 08:26:59
cause theres a fair few inactive people other than myself lmoa
12/03/2016 08:26:59
well you havn't exactly been pro town.
12/03/2016 08:31:56
12/03/2016 08:31:56
I think the game died
12/04/2016 06:45:50
12/04/2016 06:45:50