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Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win!

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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread.
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY state your character
You MAY paraphrase your abilities
You MAY NOT give any flavour text
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be. (I can tell the difference).
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there are players with equal votes, the lynchee is random.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread, and can no longer communicate privately if their role dictated that they could.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.
Inactive players will be given notice after 72 hours. If this happens several times over the course of the game the player will be removed from the game.

And we're back with another exciting edition of mafia, themed around Queensland's very popular Smashbox V tournament.

Alive:
Ghostbone, Victorian Mafia Godfather (investigation-immune), survived to win!
Windkeeper0, New South Welsh Mafia Odd-night Tracker, survived to win!

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 1.
Aerodrome, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 3.
JLo, replacing Barrydabusdriver day 3, Town Odd-night Cop, killed night 3.
CubT, Town Jack-of-all-Trades (investigate, track, watch, follow), killed night 3.
MrL, New South Welsh Mafia Role-Blocker, lynched day 4.
Wooy, Town Even-night Doctor, killed night 4.
Pazx, Vanilla Townie, killed night 4.
SpaceJam, Town One-shot Governor, killed night 4.
Urisk, Victorian Mafia Framer, lynched day 5.
BattleDolphin, Town Watcher, killed night 5.
LtLongshot, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killed night 5.
Invisi, New South Welsh Mafia Godfather (bulletproof), lynched day 6.
LEF, Victorian Mafia Role-stopper, killed night 6.
HydroPimp, Town Innocent Child, killed night 6.
Jezmo, Town Beloved Princess, lynched day 7.

Modkilled:
BlazikenGod, Town Bus Driver, day 2
dean 9 years ago
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MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
I should probably just be lynched as collateral damage tbh at least you guys would gain some info and is what I was hoping would happen last night. Hence the post.

If you guys honestly think that Nobody else in the game is worth lynching tn go for it but be prepared for me to flip town.
9 years ago
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
Maribro said:
I'm honestly convinced that there wouldn't be a Mafia governor. You'll see why if I die.

I honestly think that the governor just messed up and doesn't want to claim the shit storm they've created

Either way I'm definitely town and nothing any of you say or conclude will change that.

You guys are still jumping to way too many conclusions to justify your theories

They're all gonna be proven wrong when I die


can you not softclaim? you're about to die, saying "you'll understand when I die" is basically DONT LYNCH ME IM IMPORTANT BUT ITS A SECRET

and it's shitty

on a lighter note

what do you think we should do "when" you flip town?
btw your opinion on what we should do if you flip town is actually very important, if you're confirmed town then whatever you say now can actually be useful for us even if you're dead so start talking
atm all you're providing us with is "you're all gonna look dumb LOL go mafia" which is pretty anti town
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Everything I said yesterday still stands today except hydro pump is definitely a townie
I'm saying you'll understand because I'll flip town

Why would the maf stop a townie being lynched
9 years ago
SpaceJamVictoriaSimon
109+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6707-1685-3201
Wii U: Supertickles
Okay guys. I think there is an incredibly good chance the CubT's character has the insane trait. I've been re-reading this entire thread (Got to page 39 at the time of posting this)

I firmly believe this is CubT's role.

"You are LEF, The (Insane) Tournament Organizer. Watch, Track, Investigate"

Reasoning
Day 1 -> Investigate Pazx, Busdrivered to cAKE.
cAKE was shown as anti-town.
Day 2 -> Watched Maribro.
No one visited.

From looking at the mafia scum website I found a list of sanities. Surprisingly the Longshot/CubT issue is resolved by this.

"An insane Cop receives a guilty result for Town members, and an innocent result for Mafia members."
This proves day 1 for cAKE's report

"An insane Tracker receives the results of a sane Watcher, and vice versa."
He watched Maribro. Since he is INSANE he tracked Maribro.

I firmly believe this is CubT's role and what happened.

I am super tired and this is probably out of left field but it clears up both Longshot and CubT.
As for the wording on what CubT received it could be Dean making it harder to figure out. (More fun that way!)
Also sorry if anyone figured it out before. It's my first game and I was really excited that I figured something out.
9 years ago
CubTNew ZealandWii Fit Trainer
92+ tourneys
Wii U: DiscordianFate
3DS: 1521-3834-9377
Actually, I'm the head admin on QLDSmash. I can use the website to find data on you all.

Data doesn't lie fam
Also SpaceJum, care to link us to the info about Insane Watcher/Tracker?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Watcher

It's not there.
9 years ago
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
lol im a role
9 years ago
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
Maribro said:
Everything I said yesterday still stands today except hydro pump is definitely a townie
I'm saying you'll understand because I'll flip town

Why would the maf stop a townie being lynched


You're not being very helpful.
9 years ago
DeezVictoriaToon Link
196+ tourneys
Wii U: Tarkanator
3DS: 4425-2461-9026
How I feel playing this sick twisted game with so many people.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uKNKVzVAqUk
9 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
SpaceJam said:
Okay guys. I think there is an incredibly good chance the CubT's character has the insane trait. I've been re-reading this entire thread (Got to page 39 at the time of posting this)

I firmly believe this is CubT's role.

"You are LEF, The (Insane) Tournament Organizer. Watch, Track, Investigate"

Reasoning
Day 1 -> Investigate Pazx, Busdrivered to cAKE.
cAKE was shown as anti-town.
Day 2 -> Watched Maribro.
No one visited.

From looking at the mafia scum website I found a list of sanities. Surprisingly the Longshot/CubT issue is resolved by this.

"An insane Cop receives a guilty result for Town members, and an innocent result for Mafia members."
This proves day 1 for cAKE's report

"An insane Tracker receives the results of a sane Watcher, and vice versa."
He watched Maribro. Since he is INSANE he tracked Maribro.

I firmly believe this is CubT's role and what happened.

I am super tired and this is probably out of left field but it clears up both Longshot and CubT.
As for the wording on what CubT received it could be Dean making it harder to figure out. (More fun that way!)
Also sorry if anyone figured it out before. It's my first game and I was really excited that I figured something out.

Yaaaas this is what I thought the whole time! ;D xD not taking any credit though I suck at explaining lol
9 years ago
SpaceJamVictoriaSimon
109+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6707-1685-3201
Wii U: Supertickles
CubT said:
Actually, I'm the head admin on QLDSmash. I can use the website to find data on you all.

Data doesn't lie fam
Also SpaceJum, care to link us to the info about Insane Watcher/Tracker?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Watcher

It's not there.


http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Sanities
I feel like with this a long of suspect people are now cleared. Maribro is probably one of the few suspect people remaining.

The soft claim he did was extremely suspect, at this point in time where people are already discussing roles I imagine that if you had a role beneficial to the town it would be best to claim it. Rather than throwing things out such as "You'll be sorry"
9 years ago
JLoVictoriaKirby
27+ tourneys
Wii U: thatdudejono
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Hey guys, I haven't reread the full 50(!) pages of the thread yet, but by following the thread since the start I'm kinda in the loop about the town's current dilemma. What it boils down to is that the town needs to address 2 things:

- How Maribro survived the lynch during the previous day
- CubT's and LtLongshot's somewhat contradictory statements

If possible, we'll also need to address what actually happened during the previous night, as why there were no deaths despite being two confirmed kill powers running around. As I said before, I'm busy today so I won't be as active, but if you want me to chime in on anything just ask. I'll clarify my thoughts on those 2 points as today progresses.

Also, a few other things:

- It's in our best interest not to assume convoluted role set-ups at this point, despite what a mess of a game the previous one was. Bad assumptions often lead town astray, and the simplest answer is often the correct one (Occam's Razor)
- Please don't vote for HydroPimp... just don't
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
I'm not soft claiming anything. I just have no idea why a Mafia governor would save a townie. It's illogical. When I die you'll see that.
9 years ago
SpaceJamVictoriaSimon
109+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6707-1685-3201
Wii U: Supertickles
I must have imagined the soft claim (I was reading it at 3am)

However the line I did note was
"I'm honestly convinced that there wouldn't be a Mafia governor. You'll see why if I die. "

That's a big thing.
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
But what would a Mafia governor gain from saving me assuming I am town?
9 years ago
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
Maribro said:
But what would a Mafia governor gain from saving me assuming I am town?

nothing that's why you're mafia.
or in the rare case you are town, they get a wasted lynch on you today for free night kills.
9 years ago
JLoVictoriaKirby
27+ tourneys
Wii U: thatdudejono
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Maribro said:
I'm not soft claiming anything. I just have no idea why a Mafia governor would save a townie. It's illogical. When I die you'll see that.


Sounds like you're still hiding something from us tbh
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Maribro said:
But what would a Mafia governor gain from saving me assuming I am town?
Because you're mafia and/or you're the governor.
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Whatevs you guys are overthinking this.

I'm Hopedealer, Vanilla Townie. I have no special anything. Just kill me if you really think it's the right thing to do but I'm 100% telling the truth and all of you will see.

But honestly, the fact you guys are so arrogant and ignorant to the possibility that I'm town that I actually am tempted to just lynch myself means you guys really aren't thinking outside of the "HE MUST BE MAFIA LOL" train. You won't learn anything without trying to go outside of that.

Pretty confident that Dean's "hell if I know" response to an insane watch result means that CubT is definitely not insane. So we can conclude that there is likely a roleblocker and a framer in play.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Maribro said:
Pretty confident that Dean's "hell if I know" response to an insane watch result means that CubT is definitely not insane. So we can conclude that there is likely a roleblocker and a framer in play.

Pretty sure Dean is just being vague so as to not give us any information for free lol.
9 years ago
SpaceJamVictoriaSimon
109+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6707-1685-3201
Wii U: Supertickles
Ghostbone said:
Pretty sure Dean is just being vague so as to not give us any information for free lol.


How has dean acted in previous games?
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
SpaceJam said:
Ghostbone said:
Pretty sure Dean is just being vague so as to not give us any information for free lol.


How has dean acted in previous games?


he's very direct and informative when asked to be about how roles act.
9 years ago
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
I agree with Ghost - I actually said this a few pages back but no one listened to me. CubT is not insane. 1-shot insane roles are worse than useless, and while Dean has some interesting setups going, he's not that mean.

Here are the most reasonable possible explanations I have come up with for the goings-on of last night:
1. CubT is lying (and probably mafia). This means that:
1a. Longshot is lying OR
1b. The doctor protected Maribro last night OR
1c. Maribro is lying and has night-kill immunity.

2. CubT is telling the truth. This means that:
2a. There is a mafia framer in the game.
2b i. Longshot is lying (and probably mafia) OR
2b ii. Longshot was roleblocked last night
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Maribro said:
Whatevs you guys are overthinking this.

I'm Hopedealer, Vanilla Townie. I have no special anything. Just kill me if you really think it's the right thing to do but I'm 100% telling the truth and all of you will see.

But honestly, the fact you guys are so arrogant and ignorant to the possibility that I'm town that I actually am tempted to just lynch myself means you guys really aren't thinking outside of the "HE MUST BE MAFIA LOL" train. You won't learn anything without trying to go outside of that.

Pretty confident that Dean's "hell if I know" response to an insane watch result means that CubT is definitely not insane. So we can conclude that there is likely a roleblocker and a framer in play.
This is the first convincing thing you've said that is actually somewhat convincing. You're still insulting us which is pretty anti-town.

However, your claims can not be proven. Unless you're lynched tbh. If you flip mafia. That's one mafia down, and from there people who you haven't seen as suss could be pressured into giving more information.

If on the rare chance you do flip town, then that may very well confirm your theory, of which we can work from that.

I'd say I'm only 80-85% sure you're mafia now but here we have two plays. Lynch and you are maf. Lynch and you are town.

Depending on the outcome, one of our theories will be proven true and whatever information we have gathered surrounding each theory can be used to go onward and take out more mafia.

Otherwise we'd have to start from scratch.
9 years ago
SpaceJamVictoriaSimon
109+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6707-1685-3201
Wii U: Supertickles
How is CubT one shot? I assumed he had the ability to do all 3 roles.
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
^ this is why I've been saying for the last 12 hours that you should explore other avenues

You've wasted the entire day so far asking me things I can't answer. You have a new day and new information and you're beating the same dead horse. Idc if you lynch me or not but ffs try and find out more info before you do.
9 years ago
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