Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw page 8

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With Yooka-Laylee coming out soon we decided to make a themed game of where it all started, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie!

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Survived:
Maribro, Vanilla Townie
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie
BattleDolphin, Vanilla Townie
Ghostbone, Mafia Rolecop

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Backup, lynched Day 1.
Invisi, Town Mason, killed Night 1.
Windkeeper0, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
cAKE, Town Gunsmith, lynched Day 2.
HydroPimp, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Aerodrome, Town Watcher, killed Night 3.
JLo, Town Courier, lynched Day 4.
Bijou, Town Mason, killed Night 4.
HydroPimp (replacing Extra), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, lynched Day 5.
MrL, Odd-night Doctor, killed Night 5.

Notes:
HydroPimp replaced Extra Day 3.

Rhyno 03/22/2017 21:08:26

Maribro

188+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

Aerodrome said:
I'm also unvoting.

I think if LuminousLucas was mafia then he would have jumped on the lynch train as fast as Maribro and MrL did.

Unvote

I'm just calling you out because I believe you are trying to pull a double bluff.

02/25/2017 07:59:32

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

Actually let's go this direction:

Vote: MrL

Maribro said:

Aerodrome said:
I'm also unvoting.

I think if LuminousLucas was mafia then he would have jumped on the lynch train as fast as Maribro and MrL did.

Unvote

I'm just calling you out because I believe you are trying to pull a double bluff.

You'd be wrong.

02/25/2017 08:00:21

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Honestly speaking I actually believe Aero is town on the back of the recent events. Aero is too smart to fake claim Kazooie if he was anti town. It would be too risky and Anti-town have their own fake claims anyway.

And Aero is also too spontaneous to be making this play as a double bluff. Literally he just throws things out there to make plays happen without thinking of the consequences.

If anything I'm actually more suspicious of Maribro and Mr L at the moment lol.

Aero didn't try to defend himself at all when I pressured him either. If he was anti-town I think he would have tried to stick with the lie.

That was why I was encouraging him to back up his claim before I posted the evidence leading to the fact that I'm Kazooie. If he had of tried to justify it then it would have been suspicious. Town had already given him a few solid reasons why him being Kazooie seemed plausible.

But since he backed down right away then I think he is telling the truth for once lol.

02/25/2017 08:21:07

Ben_Gold

201+ tourneys

Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043

Wii U: Benjamin01

Yeah not gonna lie it made more sense in my head/while I was writing it.

I've kinda skipped most of these last messages cos im busy atm but did Aero give a solid reason why he did do it?

I'll be busy with guests over for the majority of tonight so I can have a proper look and read through everything around midnight or tomorrow.

02/25/2017 09:37:58

JEANS

84+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496

yes go back and check aero is very likely to be town and Bijou also. ive been behind aero's back this whole game so i mightaswell keep doing it after all he is most logical out of everybody it's pretty rare to find him with flawed logic.
Vote: Maribro

02/25/2017 11:50:25

BattleDolphin

404+ tourneys

Wii U: BattleDolphin

3DS: 5429-8245-2326

Unvote You have a truly unique way of playing aero haha

02/25/2017 13:02:45

cAKE

26+ tourneys

Wii U: MakingcAKE82

3DS: 0748-3964-5420

wtf is happening lol

will give my thoughts in the morning

02/25/2017 15:30:44

Ghostbone

336+ tourneys

Wii U: FreeGothitelle

Imo you're too forgiving of aero bijou.
>Makes blatantly anti town play by trying to claim mason to get the real mason to claim.
>Gets off because he's too smart to make plays like that?
By not assuming he's anti-town you're just validating his play in the case that he is. Having the mason claim is fantastic for mafia imo as it's close to having an innocent child popped in this scenario.

It wouldn't surprise me either way whether he's town or SK/Maf but with only like 15 hours left I'd be more confident voting for Aero than anyone else at this state and there is some urgency.

02/25/2017 21:05:52

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

It probably doesn't mean much but for what it's worth I WAS the first person who voted for Laggy (who was mafia) who voted for me in retaliation...

02/25/2017 21:16:12

Ghostbone

336+ tourneys

Wii U: FreeGothitelle

You voting for laggy means nothing but it's a fair point that he would be unlikely to vote for you.

02/25/2017 22:04:41

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

Hello, I was reading the thread last night but I was out at the time, so I couldn't write up a response.

To Bijou, your attempt to reference Kazooie by forming a connection between your behaviour and Kazooie's behaviour just flew over my head. It's because I've never played any Banjo-Kazooie games, so I wouldn't have gotten the reference otherwise LOL. However, you also reference information about the role which suggests you know more than you're letting on.

Aero's play is... interesting. Fake claiming is a very high chance of backfiring, and I dunno why you would attempt it as a townie. Bijou's defense of him is also sketchy, since fake claiming is traditionally seen as an anti-town play. Perhaps they're in cahoots with each other? Or they're banking on the fact that they know each other's playing habits perhaps.

02/25/2017 23:34:39

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

JLo said:
Perhaps they're in cahoots with each other? Or they're banking on the fact that they know each other's playing habits perhaps.

Unlikely, the real Mason with Invisi would then step up and out us both if we were in cahoots with each other.

02/25/2017 23:41:17

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

Ghostbone said:
Imo you're too forgiving of aero bijou

You might be right, but why would he bother taking a risk like that? To remove a confirmed pro town player?

If he was mafia, losing a mafia player for a single confirmed town player is a horrible trade since they already lost Laggy. Surely there are only two mafia left now? That would reduce them to 1.

JLo said:
However, you also reference information about the role which suggests you know more than you're letting on.

Such as what? I'm happy to answer any questions you have relating to my role, though I think I already covered most of it.

JLo said:
Bijou's defense of him is also sketchy, since fake claiming is traditionally seen as an anti-town play. Perhaps they're in cahoots with each other?

I know it seems weird I'm defending him, but I was the one that outed him in the first place don't forget. He was lying and I called him on it.

But you have to ask yourself, WHY was he lying? What reason did he have to make that play?

No matter how I look at things, it doesn't make sense for him to do what he did if he was anti town. It's too big of a risk and would obviously draw bad attention toward him.

Why would anti town make a play that would very obviously make them look bad ESPECIALLY when they already have their own unique mod created fake claims?

They wouldn't. That would be an insanely poor play. No, the mafia are the ones who are trying to act Town by not making any retarded suicidial plays like Aero did.

Obviously lying makes you look bad, but you have to understand the reasoning and logic behind why people would do certain things. And as far as I'm concerned this situation just makes more sense if Aero were to be town.

If I'm wrong and he actually is anti town then I'll cop that, but there is no way he'd do something so retsrded and bank on people defending him after a play like that.

02/26/2017 00:19:43

JEANS

84+ tourneys

Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496

cause day is about to end anybody not posting right now is suss. all mafia have to do is wait it out and then no votes and they get another kill.

02/26/2017 00:22:58

dean

81+ tourneys

Wii U: dean7599

3DS: 1435-4425-6023

Twelve hours remain.

02/26/2017 01:05:49

LuminousLucas

Aero seems too risky to lynch atm.

02/26/2017 01:18:12

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

We legit only have 4 hours before we give up our lynch, so let's make something happen here.

Vote: cAKE

How about this? He has legit done nothing so far and was one of the six people who didn't vote to kill Laggy

The other five people who didn't vote Laggy were Invisi (confirmed Banjo), me (Kazooie), Laggy himself, Lucas and BattleDolphin.

I would say there is a good chance one of the people who didn't vote Laggy is anti-town. Next most suspicious is Maribro because he was the one who hammered Laggy. He voted much later than the rest of town and of all the people who voted to kill Laggy I bet at least one of them is anti-town.

BD I think was afk for the first day so that just leaves cAKE and Lucas imo. Lucas is kind of suss but I'm more suspicious on cAKE because he's flying under the radar.

02/26/2017 08:58:56

Extra

493+ tourneys

Wii U: unwnded

sorry for inactivity. was at ranbat then playing friendlies with ghost literally all day, he can attest to this.

really confused atm, i trust bijou but honestly don't know who's the best lynch target. don't think aero's pulling a double bluff honestly, but people do like to give him the benefit of the doubt for playing weird. i do think we should lynch today, just don't know who's the best target.

02/26/2017 09:00:41

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

Vote: cAKE

This is gonna turn out to be a policy lynch, but I'd rather that than a no lynch

02/26/2017 09:18:17

Ben_Gold

201+ tourneys

Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043

Wii U: Benjamin01

I guess cake is our best option, but I wouldn't mind a Lucas lynch either, I'm still suspicious of him.

Vote: cAKE

02/26/2017 09:22:01

LuminousLucas

Vote: cAKE

It's better than a no-lynch, I'd say that.

02/26/2017 09:57:58

Extra

493+ tourneys

Wii U: unwnded

i don't know how i feel about the end result but i'll put cake on L-1 in 20 minutes.

guess this is the downside of having quicker days

02/26/2017 10:50:23

Bijou

29+ tourneys

Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

It just means we'll have to make the most of the time we have. We can't afford to have too many lax days otherwise we will be forced to vote on someone without enough evidence.

02/26/2017 11:15:25

Extra

493+ tourneys

Wii U: unwnded

Vote: cAKE

02/26/2017 11:21:28

BattleDolphin

404+ tourneys

Wii U: BattleDolphin

3DS: 5429-8245-2326

sorry for inactivity today, but idk how i feel about this cAKE is usually a useful player, when active..

02/26/2017 11:22:57

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