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Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw

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  3. Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY PARAPHRASE your abilities, copy-paste from role PM is not allowed
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be.
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread. If a dead player had a role that let them communicate privately, they are to cease doing that.
9. Character claiming is allowed.
We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Days have a deadline of one weeks. Nights have a deadline of 48 hours.
Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 48 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond.
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With Yooka-Laylee coming out soon we decided to make a themed game of where it all started, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie!

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Survived:
Maribro, Vanilla Townie
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie
BattleDolphin, Vanilla Townie
Ghostbone, Mafia Rolecop

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Backup, lynched Day 1.
Invisi, Town Mason, killed Night 1.
Windkeeper0, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
cAKE, Town Gunsmith, lynched Day 2.
HydroPimp, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Aerodrome, Town Watcher, killed Night 3.
JLo, Town Courier, lynched Day 4.
Bijou, Town Mason, killed Night 4.
HydroPimp (replacing Extra), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, lynched Day 5.
MrL, Odd-night Doctor, killed Night 5.

Notes:
HydroPimp replaced Extra Day 3.
Rhyno 8 years ago
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GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Ok the day is literally almost over and consensus is to lynch someone, and cake hasnt defended himself, so I'm gonna hammer.

Vote: cAKE
8 years ago
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Majority reached yeee thread closes in 30
8 years ago
RhynoVictoriaPokémon Trainer
26+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2480-4766-7898
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 2921-9105-5321
The day was going along nicely until one of the town members said,

"I was the person that was mason'd with our hero Banjo, we didn't need him anyways because I am the true hero, Kazooie!"

Town nodded their heads nicely to this thinking he was a genuis, anothe confirmed townie!

However there was one member of spiral mountain who didn't take too kindly to this claim.

"I'm the real Kazooie" then stating a whole bunch of facts that could prove this.

Town began questioning themselves and with time about to run out, so they did the greatest course of action that they could think of.

That's right, choosing to kill someone that had not contributed much to the game.

So within 2 hours before the long day was going to end town managed to work up the courage to lynch somebody.


cAKE (JamJars), Town-Alligned Gunsmith, has been lynched.

Night 2 has begun. Please send night actions to a moderator as soon as possible.

Final votes for Day 2:
Not voted (1) - cAKE
Aerodrome (2) - BattleDolphin, Maribro
MrL (1) - Aerodrome
Maribro (1) - Hydropimp
cAKE (6) - Bijou, JLo, MrL, LuminousLucas, Extra, Ghostbone
8 years ago
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Mr. Jiggy knew that with established heros like Banjo and JamJars out of the picture, he had to take on a more pro-active role. Not content with sitting around and being a convenient collectable to be found, Jiggy steeled himself to take matters into his own hands.
But well unfortunately, there are limits on what jigsaw pieces are able to do.


HydroPimp (Jiggy), Vanilla Townie, has been killed.

Day 3 begins. With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
what is happening

8 years ago
JLoVictoriaKirby
27+ tourneys
Wii U: thatdudejono
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Is this a possible LyLo?
8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
No, this isn't LyLo I don't think.

Assuming 6 town, 2 maf, 1 SK:

We lynch town today, 2 townies die at night leaves 3 town, 2 maf and 1 SK.
That said, I have a pretty good idea who mafia is and who is town.

May I post my educated guesses?
8 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
I mean you're going to post it anyway, why ask :P
8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Town:
Aerodrome
Bijou
LuminousLucas
JLo
BattleDolphin
Extra

Mafia:
Maribro
MrL

SK:
Ghostbone

Reasoning as follows:

Bijou: Town Mason
LuminousLucas: Didn't jump at the opportunity to lynch me
JLo: Played pretty town all game
BattleDolphin: See LuminousLucas
Extra: I'm meta'ing here, I don't really have any reads but I would have assumed he would have given up had he had Laggy on his team. Alternatively could be the SK?

Maribro: Hasn't contributed, hasn't acted "town", gloated at the opportunity to lynch me during the last day raises big generic mafia flags here while hiding it under the "I've been busy!!" pretense. 100% anti-town role.
MrL: Did the same thing I did when trying to lynch Maribro when I was an SK. Jumped on my bandwagon with extremely flawed logic trying to rush a lynch. Refused to do a vote analysis when I asked (twice).
These two seem to be replying at similar times.

Ghostbone: Like I said with Extra, I don't have the reeeeeeds but like Maribro has tried to lay low for the most part during this game which is typical SK behavior.

These are my thoughts, if we want to risk it for the biscuit and go for an anti town lynch I would recommend Maribro. Ghostbone is the "This guy is probably SK" lynch which is statistically riskier but with a higher reward (no more 2 day deaths".

I think Ghostbone was likely the Mafia's night kill and his bulletproof stopped it. Alternately there is a doctor here who stopped the kill. But it depends on who was likely targeted last night. Does anyone have any ideas?
I'm just going to get the ball rolling

Vote: Maribro
8 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Ghost could also be the vigilante with bulletproof. Would give more use for the gunsmith being in this game.

Either that, or if he/someone is SK that means mafia has bulletproof, which would also explain why there was one death last night.

The fact that it was Invisi/Windkeeper that were killed night one, and not JLo or Bijou suggests to me that the second killing faction is town. Windkeeper was playing similarly to how he plays when he's mafia, too iirc
Maribro's lack of contribution is very antitown but I don't think I recall a single time he played like this and was mafia.

He'd instead talk alot without helping town progress.

I will however still pressure him to say more vote: Maribro
8 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Gunsmith being in this game suggests that cop and vigi are probably in it too, to make the role not just a cop clone. If vigi fired night 1 that was probably a pretty bad decision so I think an SK existing is the more likely scenario.

You can accuse me of "laying low" but I was in Vic from Thursday to Monday and was basically just checking mafia once a day lol.
8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Oh yeah, that's fair enough.

I don't think there is a cop or a doctor in this game, which makes me ??????? at what happened last night.
Also im surprised shane is still alive for being confirmed town

???????????
8 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Aerodrome said:
Oh yeah, that's fair enough.

I don't think there is a cop or a doctor in this game, which makes me ??????? at what happened last night.
Also im surprised shane is still alive for being confirmed town

???????????


If Maf don't have a strongman, why would they target him? He's #1 on the doc's protect list so they'd have very little to gain trying to kill him. Unless that's what happened last night then yeah.

As for saying I've been lurking, I haven't really. I got mentioned several times before I made a post (if I was lurking I would have just responded straight away). I worked 7 shifts last week and the times I wasn't at work I was with my best friend because it was his birthday and he had a couple of events on. I obviously can't procure evidence of this but given what I've just said hopefully it makes sense. I have no real way of defending myself as I am just a simple vanilla townie. If you all decide that lynching me is the best way to go, that's fine seeing as it won't put us in LyLo.

I still don't 100% believe Aero's defence and Ghost/MrL seem like the most likely candidates thus far but I honestly don't have a read on anybody in this game. I'm finding it very hard to really see anything (this also contributed to my lack of posting).
8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Ungh why is this so difficult.

I think we can assume mafia don't have a strongman

I think we can also assume that mafia targeted the SK at night because I also don't believe there is a doctor in this game.

Which leads us... where? If Maribro isn't lying then who is the mafia? Is MrL trying to distance himself from Maribro and vice versa?

Is MrL the best lynch for today? Help
Where is bijou

Help
8 years ago
LuminousLucasVictoriaLucas
I have a read that this game consists of multiple vanilla townies. The evidence I have to support this is that TipTup (windkeeper) conducts a group of singing turtles and awards Banjo with a Jiggy (hydropimp) if he completes a challenge. See the connection?

But also, there a multiple Jiggies in the Banjo games, meaning that there could be multiple Jiggies in this Mafia game which could exist as vanilla townies.

But what about the singing turtles? I don't believe they would be vanilla townies, but rather supportive roles.

So basically Jiggies = Vanilla Townie
And singing turtles = Supportive roles?

8 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
disconfirming the above theory
8 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Maribro's vanilla townie claim is basically the easiest out for mafia, I'd at least expect a character claim too (though we know mafia has some safe claims)

I have to say I wouldn't mind a Maribro lynch, but I can't help but suspect aero as he will deliberately try to steer town discussion in the manner he currently is when he is a role like SK.
Also I think battledolphin has flown under the radar completely.
Didn't vote laggy day 1 and immediately voted Aero when he could, then immediately unvoted when the trend shifted away. The counterpoint to this is that he didn't vote for cAKE, but he could just have been afraid of hammering since that action always casts suspicion on someone.
8 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
i was actually typing right now so like ill have a post in a few mins xD
This is really weird, Aero i like your reasoning for the mafia, and Lucas i feel like that theory isn't very good, i don't think there would be multiple jiggy roles unless they were all called something different.
I definitely think either Mr. L, Maribro, Aero, or Ghost was targeted last night (assuming there was someone extra) as they're like kinda the only big important names in the mix in terms of their contribution and general maf skill, oh or someone couldve just hit bijou and he was protected (but like that's not rly a good play by mafia or SK)

I also noticed that MrL didnt really like actually defend himself? I mean he definitely contributed well but he kinda seemed to just palm it off to maribro. Maribro's defense is like kinda eh and he just claims vanilla townie, which he could be but that would mean there's a crapload of vanilla townies :| it's also super convenient.

This is risky af to just follow ur word totally aero so like i'll be watching you but ur gucci for now.

Also in relation to me, i kinda have just been forgetting about this game during the day times as uni started back and i've been doing that :/ Other than that i've been contributing as much as i can when i'm on lol
Also also with cAKE i had a feeling he was town so i didn't vote, but i also thought i definitely couldve been wrong so i just trusted my town on that one. also there was like no time and i didnt know who else to lynch
I just realised i didn't like say what i think we should do, but i would like to pressure Mr.L some.

VOTE: MrL
8 years ago
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
I'm salty that cAKE had such a good role and didn't make any effort to post this game. How annoying.

Surprised I'm still alive incidentally.

To me it seems like there isn't a serial killer at all given there was only one kill last night. I thought that having two kills per night with such few players was a really weird choice by the mods to make, but it makes more sense if in fact there is a Vig.

Invisi was actually pretty suss Day 1, but using a Vig to kill him was a really bad play (assuming this is what happened) and you should feel bad about yourself for doing it prematurely. At least have the decency to own up to doing it so we can confirm there isn't a SK.

I get weird vibes from all of Ghost, Maribro and Mr L at the moment. Ghost was in Vic all week though so most of his posts were probably rushed.

Here is a thought though. Why did they target Hydropimp? He wasn't really a threat lol. I need to look back through Hydropimp's posts and see if he called anyone out.
I suppose he was an easy target and unlikely to be protected, but still I always think taking out historically stronger players is a better play .
8 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
So my current thoughts are that Maribro/Battledolphin are mafia.

I think Battledolphin is just voting for people other people have accused, which is easy to do as mafia as you're not culpable when they turn up town, and in this case is even attempting to steer the pressure away from Maribro by voting MrL?

Also I disagree that there's no SK, the vigi would have claimed by now to fix our misunderstanding of the situation, as it's actively hurting us. Of course they can claim now and prove me wrong and that would be great, but unless that happens we can't assume that's the case.

I think it's just likely that mafia accidentally targeted SK, maybe they saw Aero as basically a confirmed townie at this point and my hunch about him is right.
Aero likes to target randoms as SK too lol
8 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Someone mentioned me claiming a character and I am more than happy to if people think that would be a good idea. I feel the character is a safe pro town choice but didn't say it before because I wasn't sure if people wanted to claim characters this early.
8 years ago
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
423+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Ghost but the fact is i dont find anyone else suss than the people that have already been accused, and considering this my post didn't really like contribute at all lol it just kinda spat my thoughts, and maribro had already defended himself so i figure we should pressure everyone that has been accused? we do only have 1 week days remember :/ Isn't it smarter to do the rounds then decide who we think is mafia again after?

With that being said though i'm glad it has advanced to me rather than just staying on maribro for ages like it seemed it was going to.
i hope that all makes sense i seem to jumble all my thoughts into one while typing lol

8 years ago
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Character claiming is fine, but every anti-town player has a fake claim anyway so I'm not sure how much it would help you.

Now that you mention it by the way Ghost, the two people who jumped straight on Aero's bandwagon were Maribro and BattleDolphin.

I think BD was away for pretty much the entire first day, so that was possibly why he didn't cast a vote. But if he knew Laggy was mafia and didn't vote for him for that reason then that's a thing too.

Also you might be right about the SK thing. Hydro's death makes more sense if we assume a SK got him and the mafia targeted the SK which resulted in no kill from their end.

If anyone is mafia and could confirm this then it would be appreciated.
8 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Well in any case I am Tooty, Banjo's sister and I would absolutely not want to kill my brother lol. I am town.
8 years ago
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Tooty sounds like the kind of fake claim Gruntilda would have to be honest lol.
8 years ago
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