Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Maribro said:
I kinda have my suspicions about a few people but with the massive inactivity of some players and the fact that none of this " discussion" is actually going anywhere, it's really hard to get good reads on people.

What do we know? Laggy was a vanilla townie, he obviously didn't see himself very useful for town because of past results and the fact he had no power so he didn't defend himself. Not an awful move seeing as losing a VT on day 1 is totally fine but had his defence been stauncher, it may have shown some underlying behaviour of certain people. Luminous was also a VT but they were probably one of the most obvious pro townies, having behaviour almost analogous to Pazx in the first ever mafia game. I think maf probably thought he was cop and trying to pry around and decided to bump him off. The only other scenario is what Ghost said and that someone else with a kill power took him out, either a trigger happy Vigilante (terrible shot if it was you, please think more before shooting anyone else) or a serial killer who just wanted to remain unknown.

We know that Hydro has probably been lurking, Corvid and cAKE are being very resistant to saying anything of substance, Duon and Invisi have both posted little and were both passively supportive of the lynch train without really trying to help town learn anything, Aero and Ghost actively supported of the bandwagon, their reasoning was fine but I feel like they were overly pushy. Insert, MrL and Windkeeper have generally been okay, Spacejam is too much of a meme to figure out and then there's the see of inexperienced/weak/new players that I can't really understand the behaviour of at all.

Someone please help me out here.

cAKE said:


tldr everyone sucks

Maribro said:
If you're gonna double post, make sure the first post isn't useless garbage.

Aerodrome said:
I'll answer any questions you need, Mariboro.

HydroPimp said:
Hey, im not lurking. I have better things to do with my time. I check back on the thread every so often and say some things. i guess ill be 'protown' and pretty much pretending to be a good player but am actually just saying the obvious and not actually adding anything.
Laggy was a VT who was lynched day one. This can be just dismissed as a meme lynch, but people like aero were really pushing that. I'm not saying he's mafia but there's no doubt that was suspicious.
LuminousLucas was also a VT who died Night 1. Nothing really that surprising here. He wasn't a bad player who was pro town and likely not to be protected. Makes sense for mafia to do that, I guess.

HydroPimp said:
Hey, im not lurking. I have better things to do with my time. I check back on the thread every so often and say some things. i guess ill be 'protown' and pretty much pretending to be a good player but am actually just saying the obvious and not actually adding anything.
Laggy was a VT who was lynched day one. This can be just dismissed as a meme lynch, but people like aero were really pushing that. I'm not saying he's mafia but there's no doubt that was suspicious.
LuminousLucas was also a VT who died Night 1. Nothing really that surprising here. He wasn't a bad player who was pro town and likely not to be protected. Makes sense for mafia to do that, I guess.

Aerodrome said:
If you're not going to ask questions now I'm not going to bother answering them tomorrow. I'm busy. Redirect yaw suspicion elsewhere tyvm.

MrL said:
Luminous was a good choice for mafia to off (assuming there isn't a vigilante). Pro-town, but not a big player at the same time so unlikely to be protected by the doctor, assuming there is one.

The biggest thing of note that Lumi did was defend Laggy, who then turned out to be town. Aero and cAKE were especially eager for him to be lynched, even after the meme votes. As aforementioned, basty jumped on that bandwagon quickly. Aero was also impatient and wanted day 1 to be ended quickly, which is not good for town.

Luminous also agreed with what I said about cAKE and Basty's suspicious bandwagoning behaviour. Hitting me would have been too obvious if I was on to something there -- a pro-town player who agreed with me on that is a more subtle and effective choice.

Spacejam and cAKE were specifically aggressive toward laggy sympathisers, calling them practically mafia. Spacejam may have been joking, but cAKE's response was not, saying "Unvoting will do nothing but complicate things if your sole purpose of doing it is to 'give him a chance at responding".

This was calling for a quick lynch and shorter day. Both the lynch and the nighttime kill were townies.

I previously made a list of those who needed who participate more and help town progress, which got an aggressive response from CJ who claimed it to be useless. He has since flipflopped and also called for inactive players to be identified in order to respond more.

"As things are going, the people in the mafia can just sit back, watch things happen and do nothing. Because of this I'm looking out for the people who aren't saying much. "

Strange behaviour with CJ agreeing and 'cosying' up with Aero, claiming he is useful when so far he has only shown odd behaviour with pressing for a quick lynch and rushed day 1.

Dyna, Corvid and Hydropimp all appearing when they were called to talk implies they are lurkers, anti-town behaviour. Actively participating is far better for town, even when there isn't much to say.

Other players who need to participate more are Invisi, Windkeeper (although these two posted recently) and LachlanF. Lachlan won't be participating for another 6 days so currently he is deadweight. If nothing develops with aero's suspicious behaviour or anything else, then we can minimise losses by lynching an inactive player if it does come to that. Hopefully it does not.

Aero noting that the mafia did not go after the 3 strong players - Ghost, Invisi and Maribro.

depending on alignments and underlining motives, this could be interpretted as:

- inquiry and food-for-thought about the mafia's actions and line of thinking
- Drawing attention to the fact that these 3 are good, and they should not be lynched (which could either be a way to tell town to try and keep these good players -- or if 1 of them is mafia, an attempt to avert any negative assumptions about them and avoid being lynched)
- If he is an anti-town role that isn't necessarily mafia, but whose goal is to still get all of town eliminated (if there is a role like that?) could be alerting mafia to who the traditional top players are and who they should be targeting when strategising.

This is pretty much all I can think of right now and trying to delve into the various possibilities these things could all mean. Any thoughts?

MrL said:
I agree with your choice on pressuring corvid, it would be good for him to say something. You said he'd been mafia before and played similarly yeah?