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Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1

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Well I'm bored and exam period is starting to slow down (well for me at least it is) so I thought I'd try and get these back started up. I can push start date back a bit if people are still busy with exams though.
Note: deadlines will be at 22:00 AEDT, in other timezones: 21:00 AEST, 21:30 ACDT, 20:30 ACST, 19:00 AWST and 0:00 NZDT.

Votes:
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
HydroPimp (4) - MrL, Extra, Windkeeper0, cjeccjec
Not voted (5) - HydroPimp, Ghostbone, InsertName, BastyTho, AutumnWind

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1.
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
LachlanF, Town Informed Bodyguard, lynched Day 2.
LuminousLucas, Town Watcher, killed Night 2.
SpaceJam, Town 1-shot Masonizer, killed Night 2.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3.
Rhyno, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3.
Invisi, Town Gunsmith, killed Night 3.
Aerodrome, Independent Bulletproof Killer, lynched Day 4.
EIS-DUON, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4.

Note:
Rhyno replaced BattleDolphin Day 2
LuminousLucas replaced Corvid Day 2
Extra replaced cAKE Night 4
Bijou 12/06/2016 22:15:47
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KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
55+ tourneys
Hello, I'm alive. From what I've read, everyone seems to be voting based on past games and with this being my second game, I don't have much to add. Also, about what InsertName said about how killing Luminous seems like something I would do, that's actually wrong. I would definitely be trying to kill Maribro because he's definitely one of the strongest people here.
11/15/2016 06:50:17
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Corvid deflecting mentions of his lurking and strange behaviour. I think someone said invisi had a similar tactic when he was mafia.

Ghost and Insertname both sharing the same vibes as to who is mafia, with ghost saying insertname is town. Odd behaviour, potential blunder? Too early to say.

dyna_hole acting weird and not being helpful, especially after it has been stressed that people should try to help town as much as possible.

Aero had a significant change in behaviour; either finally acting the part or trying to brush any suspicion under the rug.

The people giving me the biggest maf vibes are cAKE, aero, invisi, ghost and insertname.

Corvid, Battledolphin and Maribro too, but to a lesser extent.

Basty, Battledolphin, Invisi, Windkeeper, Hydro, Dyna, CJ, Corvid, Autumnwind, LachlanF and Duon all need to talk more.
11/15/2016 07:13:09
Windkeeper0New South WalesLucina
1+ tourneys
Wii U: Windkeeper0
I can see why Maribro was so against day one ending so quickly, and why a couple of people were so strongly to end it quick so I'm not really feeling that it makes people suspicious by itself. It may become important later but for now not so much.
I don't think I have enough to go off right now to make a full list of suspicions so I'll leave that until towards the end of day 2 but I'm feeling like Maribro and MrL are giving me a stronger town vibe than anyone else. Aero is playing pretty much the same that he normally does.

11/15/2016 07:15:29
KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
55+ tourneys
MrL said:
Corvid deflecting mentions of his lurking and strange behaviour. I think someone said invisi had a similar tactic when he was mafia.

Ghost and Insertname both sharing the same vibes as to who is mafia, with ghost saying insertname is town. Odd behaviour, potential blunder? Too early to say.

dyna_hole acting weird and not being helpful, especially after it has been stressed that people should try to help town as much as possible.

Aero had a significant change in behaviour; either finally acting the part or trying to brush any suspicion under the rug.

The people giving me the biggest maf vibes are cAKE, aero, invisi, ghost and insertname.

Corvid, Battledolphin and Maribro too, but to a lesser extent.

Basty, Battledolphin, Invisi, Windkeeper, Hydro, Dyna, CJ, Corvid, Autumnwind, LachlanF and Duon all need to talk more.
I can't talk more when all the reasong is "Oh, he gives me maf vibes." or "Oh, he's acting the same way as last time." There's literally nothing to add to a conversation full of people like this. Surely we can be smarter about the way we play, right?
11/15/2016 07:21:43
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
ike sdi multiplier
11/15/2016 07:25:39
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Autumnwind, that's how you have to play at first. You need to observe other players' behaviours and try to analyse what they've said, whether it's why they've said something, or what their actions could indicate.

You also have to be mindful to not become fixed on a train of thought, especially when everything is up in the air.

Lack of communication is an anti-town behaviour, it minimises town's progress and does not contribute to the discussion. Anything is better than silence, even postulation. So long as that alone does not drive you to a conclusion.
11/15/2016 07:36:09
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
InsertName said:
I've been a bit quiet recently because a lot of people are throwing shots around with the argument "They're playing like they did when they were Mafia" which I can't really get behind. Right now in regards to the Luminous lynch I can see people like Corvid or perhaps Autumn getting behind it. Duon did point me out but as he stated I'd be a bit more reserved with my kill. For people who I think are a bit suss right now are Hydro because I'm 95% sure he was lurching and people have pointed out that Mafia can remain quite for now, and Aero because of anti town behaviour and he keeps trying to avoid all shots at him and even memeing around.

Vote: Aero
I literally just made a very serious post about my thoughts. Also I haven't avoided shots at all.

This game makes me so mad sometimes.
11/15/2016 07:37:00
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
im surprised duon thinks if insert was mafia he would kill some rando. He isnt a dumbass, Insert would think about it for like a week and hit somebody like maribro if he was mafia, this isnt his fist game.
11/15/2016 07:44:11
KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
55+ tourneys
MrL said:
Autumnwind, that's how you have to play at first. You need to observe other players' behaviours and try to analyse what they've said, whether it's why they've said something, or what their actions could indicate.

You also have to be mindful to not become fixed on a train of thought, especially when everything is up in the air.

Lack of communication is an anti-town behaviour, it minimises town's progress and does not contribute to the discussion. Anything is better than silence, even postulation. So long as that alone does not drive you to a conclusion.
That's a fair point, but I still don't know how people want me to make a contribution. I don't know how most of the people normally behave, and if that's what we're basing this on, then my contributions will be as good as garbage.
Anyway, why are people who were pushing the Laggy lynch sus automatically? Because they wanted the day to end quicker? No, they saw his as useless, so they used their votes on who they thought would be the best option to lynch. That's not sus, that's people wanting to get rid of unhelpful players, which is pro-town IMO.
him*
11/15/2016 07:51:16
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
Corvid said:
I've always thought that you would much rather take someone with a considerable amount of skill early, which doesn't really show in the mafia's choice last night, and I only see it as trick to call out on of the players with less experience as mafia.

Because there's probably some sort of healing role?
11/15/2016 07:52:38
EIS-DUONVictoriaBanjo & Kazooie
558+ tourneys
Wii U: mas0nDrul3skii
3DS: 0619-6478-1600
HydroPimp said:
im surprised duon thinks if insert was mafia he would kill some rando. He isnt a dumbass, Insert would think about it for like a week and hit somebody like maribro if he was mafia, this isnt his fist game.


Maribro confirmed maf

One of the big lads have to be maf I think theyd be dead by now if they werent.
Someone just claim doctor tbh
11/15/2016 07:55:13
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
^
11/15/2016 07:56:43
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
EIS-DUON said:
HydroPimp said:
im surprised duon thinks if insert was mafia he would kill some rando. He isnt a dumbass, Insert would think about it for like a week and hit somebody like maribro if he was mafia, this isnt his fist game.


Maribro confirmed maf

One of the big lads have to be maf I think theyd be dead by now if they werent.
Someone just claim doctor tbh
Potentially...?

I mean Mafia might have just gone with a safer option night 1 but you're right. If none of them were Mafia then they have a 66% chance of hitting someone who was unprotected. If 1 of them was Mafia then they have a 50% chance still assuming the doctor didn't protect the one who was Mafia. They probably could have just risked it for the biscuit night 1.
The Mafia likely has some form of strongman as well, whether that be one or two shot I don't know.
I'm against the doctor claiming T B H

I don't see the reason for them to make themselves a target on day 2.
11/15/2016 08:09:01
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
even the obvious meme. wanting the doctor to claim is very anti-town.
11/15/2016 08:09:51
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Even if we assume mafia went for a safe option, is it unlikely that there are 2 killing factions?

I'd find it very weird if one of the stronger players wasn't targeted.
11/15/2016 08:23:24
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
Ghostbone said:
Even if we assume mafia went for a safe option, is it unlikely that there are 2 killing factions?

I'd find it very weird if one of the stronger players wasn't targeted.


I wouldn't be surprised if there was a serial killer or independent type of role.
There's 20 people, after all.
That's assuming our protection role saved someone who was obvious for a kill.

Here's what I can chalk up for night 1 (this is just based off luminous' death, so don't take this as truth or anything because I know as much as you guys)

Here's our possibilities of what happened:
1. Mafia kills luminous, no third party, doctor misses (most likely atm)

2: Mafia/ Independent (one or the other) role kills LuminousLucas
Mafia/Independent role targets someone pro town
Town Doctor saves pro town person (kind of likely)

3. Third party exists, the doctor missed, and maybe town has some sort of bulletproof man or something (unlikely, that's more of a mafia role to have)

4. Third party exists but can't kill? (least likely, might be a survivor or something but thats really out of the question)


11/15/2016 08:36:24
Windkeeper0New South WalesLucina
1+ tourneys
Wii U: Windkeeper0
It's not as likely but there could also have been a bus driver as Aero joked earlier. The only problem with the theory, assuming that the bus driver switched one of the strong players with Luminous, is that it would have been much smarter to switch the strong player with a less useful player.
11/15/2016 09:18:12
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Aerodrome said:
OK so people are calling for a post of substance from me and this is what I think:
Maribro: Seems to be going out of his way to attack me (IM TOWN BAKA) which leads me to say maybe Mafia. Or he could just be really wrong. Probably just a poor misguided townie, but we'll see what happens. Main argument from him seems to be "YOU WANTED LAGGY DEAD AND INVISI AND GHOST ARE KINDA SUSPICIOUS TOO FOR WANTING LAGGY DEAD" but really like Invisi said we just don't want the most boring part of the game lasting for 2 weeks.
His early reads are usually very correct, but not so this game apparently if he's continuing to accuse me.


It's more than just the Laggy stuff. Just generally getting a lot of dodgy vibes from you based on how you've handled previous games. The way the mafia played night 1 feels very similar to how you and Invisi played it with a kind of "oh look something weird happened last night, hopefully someone reveals something so we can kill you!" Just this time I'm not being an idiot and falling for the trap. RE Ghost/Invisi/Aero idk just seems like you guys' posts are suspiciously close together. Maybe I'm just tripping but ye.

Aerodrome said:
Dyna_Hole: Jumped REALLY fast onto Maribro's wagon on me before he'd even given a reason. Probably mafia or a rly stupid townie. I'd like to suggest he be a day 2 lynch option to be honest.


I do think it was weird he wagoned off me without actually saying anything as to why? If you're gonna vote at least explain yoself smh.

Aerodrome said:
Invisi: No opinion. If he's mafia that will become clear within a few in game days because of his incredibly strong town play usually.


Cheeky bit of dismissing pressure for your boy here, gotta admire it :).

Aerodrome said:
Windkeeper0: Town. 100%. HE'S PLAYING EXACTLY LIKE HE DOES WHEN HE'S A TOWN POWER ROLE LOL. Probably the cop or doctor or something.


Why would you draw attention to this? What were you thinking?



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Don't really understand Insert's reasoning for voting Aero, just feels like a bandwagon and that's not really good play on someone like Aero. He ain't havin none of that.



Dyna_Hole said:
Aerodrome said:


Dyna_Hole: Jumped REALLY fast onto Maribro's wagon on me before he'd even given a reason. Probably mafia or a rly stupid townie. I'd like to suggest he be a day 2 lynch option to be honest.



I mean... you could play it that way, yeah. I don't have proof to say i didn't bandwagon, but, i didn't banwaggon.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Plz try and say stuff with more substance. If you didn't bandwagon what was it specifically that made you suspect Aero?

Dyna_Hole said:
I am now wondering if it's actually possible for me to play a game such as mafia with my shitty personality.

Don't sweat the small stuff fam <3 <3 <3

Windkeeper0 said:
Aero is playing pretty much the same that he normally does.


Aero's only been town once.

Aerodrome said:
InsertName said:
I've been a bit quiet recently because a lot of people are throwing shots around with the argument "They're playing like they did when they were Mafia" which I can't really get behind. Right now in regards to the Luminous lynch I can see people like Corvid or perhaps Autumn getting behind it. Duon did point me out but as he stated I'd be a bit more reserved with my kill. For people who I think are a bit suss right now are Hydro because I'm 95% sure he was lurching and people have pointed out that Mafia can remain quite for now, and Aero because of anti town behaviour and he keeps trying to avoid all shots at him and even memeing around.

Vote: Aero
I literally just made a very serious post about my thoughts. Also I haven't avoided shots at all.

This game makes me so mad sometimes.


Agreed, terrible call out from you Insert, smh.

EIS-DUON said:
HydroPimp said:
im surprised duon thinks if insert was mafia he would kill some rando. He isnt a dumbass, Insert would think about it for like a week and hit somebody like maribro if he was mafia, this isnt his fist game.


Maribro confirmed maf

One of the big lads have to be maf I think theyd be dead by now if they werent.
Someone just claim doctor tbh


From an objective standpoint it's very likely one of myself/Invisi/Ghostbone/Aero is maf. Maybe even two. Doesn't necessarily mean that one of us would be dead by that stage because we're also more likely to be Doctord.

Also remember how I said I was an idiot and fell into a maf trap? I tried to push Doc to reveal because Maf chose not to kill night one. Got us in a big mess and I nearly handed the game to maf because I didn't think. Doc reveal is a big no. Same goes for any other reveal at this stage.

cAKE said:



cAKE and Duon movin up in my suss list. Smh you boys I had hope you weren't just scum.
^
I have screwed up the final part of a very long post.

End me.


11/15/2016 09:53:14
Dyna_HoleVictoriaRidley
16+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3156-7494-5802
Wii U: dyna-hole
Dyna_Hole said:
HydroPimp said:
Hey, im not lurking. I have better things to do with my time. I check back on the thread every so often and say some things. i guess ill be 'protown' and pretty much pretending to be a good player but am actually just saying the obvious and not actually adding anything.
Laggy was a VT who was lynched day one. This can be just dismissed as a meme lynch, but people like aero were really pushing that. I'm not saying he's mafia but there's no doubt that was suspicious.
LuminousLucas was also a VT who died Night 1. Nothing really that surprising here. He wasn't a bad player who was pro town and likely not to be protected. Makes sense for mafia to do that, I guess.
i have come to this conclosion with my terrible skills of conjecture as Aero semi-agressively spoke to luminous about lynching laggy
And with that, I say VOTE: Aerodrome

the entire post about voting for Aero, i was sussing around the same time as hydro, so i did not feel the need to post an entire paragraph. I also forgot Maribro voted, if anybody is willing to believe that.
also, how the hell did i mis-spell 'conclusion'? >.>
11/15/2016 10:07:23
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
@Maribro

I said '^' to the first part of Insert's post, before I refreshed the page and saw the 'doctor should just claim now' second post. I agree that's a shit idea
*duon's post i mean
And also explain why I am regarded as 'suss'? I have literally said 'why didn't laggy defend himself' and the rest of the game I've been trying to push discussion
11/15/2016 10:55:14
KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
55+ tourneys
Duon and Aero are at the top of my sus list right now. Duon saying the doctor should reveal themself and Aero pointing out that WindKeeper probably has an important role are my main reasons. Also, I agree with cAKE. Why is everyone saying he's sus? The only arguments everyone's come up with is, "He asked why Laggy didn't defend himself." which doesn't even make any sense, and "He gives me maf vibes." cAKE was a really helpful town player in Lachlan's Smash player themed game on Discord.
11/15/2016 11:13:00
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
I doubt you'd be that obvious about your defense of Cake if you were mafia together, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though it looks pretty suss.
11/15/2016 11:15:06
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Ghostbone said:
I doubt you'd be that obvious about your defense of Cake if you were mafia together, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, though it looks pretty suss.
He's 9, don't underestimate 9 year olds.


11/15/2016 11:15:57
Dyna_HoleVictoriaRidley
16+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3156-7494-5802
Wii U: dyna-hole
Aero says the truth for once :^)
11/15/2016 11:24:18
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Oh boy there is a whole lot to read and interpret. I don't even know what to do with myself.
11/15/2016 11:35:41
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