You're so mean to me, I'm hurt.
11/22/2016 04:55:01
im going to vote for maribro in 20 minutes putting hum at hammer range for the reasons in my last post and what town has said. like i have said, i have been on mafia with aero two times before and the reasons town say he is mafia dont make sense to me and more or just a very loud town. town does the votes, not aero. town voted for laggy, town voted for lachlan and town are voting for maribro. From towns perspective all of those lynchs made sense. of just not or just
11/22/2016 05:12:19
11/22/2016 05:12:19
Ohhhh dale is spacejam right? Hah confused me so much. Also what aero is saying is either repeating already made accusations without adding much substance and or contradicting himself.
Also I assume the first two paragraphs of this was like a quote of aero. Cos this also got me mad confused. I thought someone accidentally said something that only Mafia would know.
11/22/2016 05:22:40
Maribro said:
You didn't announce that Dale contacted you during the night, you're mafia!!!
You told us Dale contacted you during the night, you're mafia!!!
lmao this is literally the shittest thing I've ever read in a mafia game. Why bother even bringing it up if it doesn't matter what I say?
Also I assume the first two paragraphs of this was like a quote of aero. Cos this also got me mad confused. I thought someone accidentally said something that only Mafia would know.
11/22/2016 05:22:40
By all means rush another lynch and kill another townie and play more and more into the mafia's (Aero xox) hands.
Please don't make the same mistake 3 nights in a row
11/22/2016 05:22:54
Please don't make the same mistake 3 nights in a row
11/22/2016 05:22:54
Vote: Unvote
I'll probably end up adding to a Maribro lynch in the end anyway but I'll Unvote for now because I want to consider other things.
Remember Maribro has a case against him, however he also has a case (or theory) in his favour, which let me remind you is that there is a second killing party of some sort. I would also like to say Laggy's day 1 lynch was a meme with hopes to lead us to the Mafia, a mistake but hardly avoidable as a day 1 occurrence (based on what you guys have said about day 1s). Lachlan's lynch was justifiable because he was acting so anti town and unhelpful. Why do you define them both as such mistakes?
11/22/2016 05:32:38
I'll probably end up adding to a Maribro lynch in the end anyway but I'll Unvote for now because I want to consider other things.
Remember Maribro has a case against him, however he also has a case (or theory) in his favour, which let me remind you is that there is a second killing party of some sort. I would also like to say Laggy's day 1 lynch was a meme with hopes to lead us to the Mafia, a mistake but hardly avoidable as a day 1 occurrence (based on what you guys have said about day 1s). Lachlan's lynch was justifiable because he was acting so anti town and unhelpful. Why do you define them both as such mistakes?
11/22/2016 05:32:38
In hindsight we can call any lynch of a townie a mistake, but at the time both those lynches made sense
11/22/2016 05:33:57
11/22/2016 05:33:57
Ghostbone said:
In hindsight we can call any lynch of a townie a mistake, but at the time both those lynches made sense
Alright, like that, yeah that's a mistake.
11/22/2016 05:35:28
Vote:Maribro didnt maribro hammer lachlan? he cant act like he is super perfect and has made no mistakes. i remember it was him because of the stop hammer time joke
11/22/2016 05:42:04
11/22/2016 05:42:04
I believe Maribro was a oneshot strongman (or some mafia role with the ability to kill once). I wouldn't be surprised if he killed Spacejam, believing that he was getting suspicious of him.
Now a powerless mafia, he is likely the weakest link of the 3 (or more?).
It would be effective on his part to make a 'gaff' and draw attention to him, and away from other suspected mafiosos. Notice who immediately jumped on to this? The two other suspected players in this game. Votes 1 & 2. If Maribro flips mafia; they look very town all of a sudden. Especially with Invisi's sudden activity..
You might think this is strange, but Urisk made a similar play. He revealed himself as a sacrifice to draw attention away from the other mafia members (ultimately tieing for the win with the other mafia faction).
Either way the lynch turns out, Aero is the most likely player to pressure the next day. @Hydro he did.
Double standards I guess
11/22/2016 05:47:53
Now a powerless mafia, he is likely the weakest link of the 3 (or more?).
It would be effective on his part to make a 'gaff' and draw attention to him, and away from other suspected mafiosos. Notice who immediately jumped on to this? The two other suspected players in this game. Votes 1 & 2. If Maribro flips mafia; they look very town all of a sudden. Especially with Invisi's sudden activity..
You might think this is strange, but Urisk made a similar play. He revealed himself as a sacrifice to draw attention away from the other mafia members (ultimately tieing for the win with the other mafia faction).
Either way the lynch turns out, Aero is the most likely player to pressure the next day. @Hydro he did.
Double standards I guess
11/22/2016 05:47:53
Never said I was perfect at all. That's a terrible argument to make.
Either way you shouldn't be doing stupid theorycrafting. The correct course of action today is to put pressure on Aero, Invisi and maybe ghost too. One of them, maybe 2 are definitely maf. All killing me is gonna do is bring you back to square 1 minus the 2 people that die tonight.
11/22/2016 05:58:44
Either way you shouldn't be doing stupid theorycrafting. The correct course of action today is to put pressure on Aero, Invisi and maybe ghost too. One of them, maybe 2 are definitely maf. All killing me is gonna do is bring you back to square 1 minus the 2 people that die tonight.
11/22/2016 05:58:44
i said you were acting like you were perfect not that you said you were
11/22/2016 06:01:16
11/22/2016 06:01:16
If we lynch you Maribro, how much of a loss is that to the town?
11/22/2016 06:14:36
11/22/2016 06:14:36
If you lynch me and then 2 more people die tonight then there's 12 people, 4 or 5 (thanks Lachlan for not actually telling us even though you knew) maf. If you hit town again tomorrow then it could be game over. Which is why Aero's "oh just lynch me if Maribro is town" attitude is awful. If he is town then he's just throwing the game trying to prove an incorrect point.
11/22/2016 06:18:32
11/22/2016 06:18:32
Windkeeper0 said:
LachlanF said:This is all I could think of but this is pretty much something you can figure out yourself.
In a game with 20ish people there is probs 4 or 5 mafia, after tonight there will only be 16 alive if you don't hit Scum this turn which isn't a good thing to be doing.
You can't assume Lachlan knew.
11/22/2016 06:23:00
Lachlan knew, dean said town informed meant he knew the structure of the game i..e there is one vanilla townie. He chose not to reveal anything.
11/22/2016 06:24:48
11/22/2016 06:24:48
Vote: Aero I feel like another night can help us make a better decision about Maribro.
11/22/2016 06:27:54
11/22/2016 06:27:54
it would but another 2 kills isn't really worth it
11/22/2016 06:28:29
11/22/2016 06:28:29
Maribro: If you accuse me, you are stupid or mafia
Wtf
Anyway like MrL said, it's REALLY obvious you two are trying to distance each other as much as you can. Everyone can see that, and fighting it won't change anyone's minds about that. I'm really leaning towards you both being mafia, but it's still very possible of one of you being town. I have a stronger read on Maribro, so I'll keep my vote there.
You've been playing completely opposite to what you have in other games when town, where you would propose arguments and encourage people to talk as opposed to today, where you're really just making loose accusations based off little evidence and calling people dumb because they're accusing you.
And don't give me that 'I was pushing discussion' BS because every active poster does that.
11/22/2016 06:44:12
Wtf
Anyway like MrL said, it's REALLY obvious you two are trying to distance each other as much as you can. Everyone can see that, and fighting it won't change anyone's minds about that. I'm really leaning towards you both being mafia, but it's still very possible of one of you being town. I have a stronger read on Maribro, so I'll keep my vote there.
You've been playing completely opposite to what you have in other games when town, where you would propose arguments and encourage people to talk as opposed to today, where you're really just making loose accusations based off little evidence and calling people dumb because they're accusing you.
And don't give me that 'I was pushing discussion' BS because every active poster does that.
11/22/2016 06:44:12
cAKE said:
Maribro: If you accuse me, you are stupid or mafia
Wtf
Anyway like MrL said, it's REALLY obvious you two are trying to distance each other as much as you can. Everyone can see that, and fighting it won't change anyone's minds about that. I'm really leaning towards you both being mafia, but it's still very possible of one of you being town. I have a stronger read on Maribro, so I'll keep my vote there.
You've been playing completely opposite to what you have in other games when town, where you would propose arguments and encourage people to talk as opposed to today, where you're really just making loose accusations based off little evidence and calling people dumb because they're accusing you.
And don't give me that 'I was pushing discussion' BS because every active poster does that.
I've called two people dumb today and that's you and Aero for the simple reason that you both made stupid comments, not because you accused me of anything. 6 people have voted for me today and only 2 of them have been called dumb. You wanna know why? Because what you and Aero both said was just wrong objectively.
I have not been summarising other's posts, I have not sat on my hands and "done nothing for town", I actually DID claim that Spacejam had contacted me and no that does NOT prove that I am town or mafia, simply that I was contacted by him. Insinuating anything further from that IS stupid, especially if you just ignore what I said and say "you're maf no matter which of my two incorrect statements I say!!!". Even Invisi called Aero dumb so I don't see wtf you're getting at with this "you're dumb/maf or on my side" thing you're saying I'm saying? I've called a couple of people out on false accusations but I have made no such statement toward Invisi or Ghost for example who have both accused me.
"loose accusations off little evidence" I mean, I'm no cop, but I've done what I can with the information I've read off people's posts. It's pretty clear to me that Aero is maf and honestly, the more of these posts you make accusing me of stuff I haven't done, I'm thinking you're maf too. You've played like this before when you've been scum so I'd imagine you'd do it again for sure.
and don't give me that "everyone that accuses me is dumb and maf BS" because atm it's literally just you and Aero that are doing so in a scummy and anti-town fashion.
11/22/2016 06:53:25
cjeccjec said:Why? The evidence that I'm Mafia is non-existant compared to the evidence that Maribro is Mafia.
Vote: Aero I feel like another night can help us make a better decision about Maribro.
We're getting to the point where we don't want to mislynch, and all evidence is pointing to Maribro being Mafia.
11/22/2016 06:59:26
I reckon we can afford to keep Maribro on high suspicion but decide on a lynch after another night with more info. The evidence is very 50/50 atm. Might be worth checking out other alternatives to lynch.
Which brings me to my next point. I'm suspicious of Ghost, personally I reckon he is full Mafia. The only evidence I have for my thoughts at this point is a few off comments and not really contributing to that much decision making (imo not contributing to it as much as other "good" players such as invisi Maribro and aero). Also why is aero considered "good"...
Now this isn't much of a case against ghost so I can't really pursue much more but I will put it out there.
Next up I want to put on notice people who don't say much at all. Basty and Dyna come to mind here. If we are going to make a loss make it so the loss is at least not someone who actively contributes.
I just wanted to hear what you would say. Vote: Unvote. I am currently very indecisive.
11/22/2016 07:01:20
Which brings me to my next point. I'm suspicious of Ghost, personally I reckon he is full Mafia. The only evidence I have for my thoughts at this point is a few off comments and not really contributing to that much decision making (imo not contributing to it as much as other "good" players such as invisi Maribro and aero). Also why is aero considered "good"...
Now this isn't much of a case against ghost so I can't really pursue much more but I will put it out there.
Next up I want to put on notice people who don't say much at all. Basty and Dyna come to mind here. If we are going to make a loss make it so the loss is at least not someone who actively contributes.
Aerodrome said:
cjeccjec said:Why? The evidence that I'm Mafia is non-existant compared to the evidence that Maribro is Mafia.
Vote: Aero I feel like another night can help us make a better decision about Maribro.
We're getting to the point where we don't want to mislynch, and all evidence is pointing to Maribro being Mafia.
I just wanted to hear what you would say. Vote: Unvote. I am currently very indecisive.
11/22/2016 07:01:20
Aerodrome said:
cjeccjec said:Why? The evidence that I'm Mafia is non-existant compared to the evidence that Maribro is Mafia.
Vote: Aero I feel like another night can help us make a better decision about Maribro.
We're getting to the point where we don't want to mislynch, and all evidence is pointing to Maribro being Mafia.
That same "evidence" could also be interpreted to conclusively show I am town
11/22/2016 07:02:23
Wow, pretty infuriated huh? I haven't accused you off anything loose at all, and I never said you didn't do anything for the town. I never said you're mafia based on the whole SpaceJam thing, while it is a big part of it, I had my suspicions before.
I held off voting for you a very long time as I didn't want to make start suspicion if I didn't have enough evidence. If you go back and read a lot of my posts I'm saying that I'm leaning towards you being mafia but not flat out 100% believing it like Aero for example.
Umm.. you can't just go around calling people stupid for taking real evidence and branching out theories from that evidence. There's more than enough evidence on your plate, Maribro, I'm just trying to help the town win this game as we've lost five people and you just seem the most likely. Sorry, it's just how the game works.
11/22/2016 07:04:12
I held off voting for you a very long time as I didn't want to make start suspicion if I didn't have enough evidence. If you go back and read a lot of my posts I'm saying that I'm leaning towards you being mafia but not flat out 100% believing it like Aero for example.
Insinuating anything further from that IS stupid, especially if you just ignore what I said and say "you're maf no matter which of my two incorrect statements I say!!!"
Umm.. you can't just go around calling people stupid for taking real evidence and branching out theories from that evidence. There's more than enough evidence on your plate, Maribro, I'm just trying to help the town win this game as we've lost five people and you just seem the most likely. Sorry, it's just how the game works.
11/22/2016 07:04:12
cAKE said:
You've been playing completely opposite to what you have in other games when town, where you would propose arguments and encourage people to talk as opposed to today, where you're really just making loose accusations based off little evidence and calling people dumb because they're accusing you.
And don't give me that 'I was pushing discussion' BS because every active poster does that.
I actually think he's been playing the opposite to what he was when he was mafia, when he was mafia he kept things very uptight and concealed a lot of information for his benefit. In this case he's been very open in discussion and makes accusations which he did not do a lot of in the game Aero hosted, he made suggestions and guided people in that game but never openly targeted someone.
TLDR; Maribro is being a lot more proactive in this game trying to get things flowing unlike how he was when he was mafia. Also for whoever asked, Bijou and I are brothers.
11/22/2016 07:10:12
Rhyno said:
cAKE said:
You've been playing completely opposite to what you have in other games when town, where you would propose arguments and encourage people to talk as opposed to today, where you're really just making loose accusations based off little evidence and calling people dumb because they're accusing you.
And don't give me that 'I was pushing discussion' BS because every active poster does that.
I actually think he's been playing the opposite to what he was when he was mafia, when he was mafia he kept things very uptight and concealed a lot of information for his benefit. In this case he's been very open in discussion and makes accusations which he did not do a lot of in the game Aero hosted, he made suggestions and guided people in that game but never openly targeted someone.
TLDR; Maribro is being a lot more proactive in this game trying to get things flowing unlike how he was when he was mafia. Also for whoever asked, Bijou and I are brothers.
What a hard read. :P Can someone please recap the evidence they have against Maribro?
11/22/2016 07:12:37