Urisk said:Yeah I agree man.
Since its not invisi, and its not LT.
VOTE: BlazikenGod
Screw you for making us wait 2 days.
I forgot to do it in my post before so.. VOTE: BlazikenGod
03/08/2016 13:26:34
I forgot to do it in my post before so.. VOTE: BlazikenGod
03/08/2016 13:26:34
Seriously Maribro, even if you just have a hunch there's a miller, you're giving a tonne of leeway to both mafias now incase one of them gets investigated, since they'll just get out on the excuse "oh i was the miller maribro was referring to, but I didn't claim beforehand because.....reasons?"
Your "feeling" doesn't help town at all, it only helps the mafia in the case one of them is investigated (which is far more likely by the numbers, even if there is a miller)
I just don't get what the point of bringing up the existence of millers serves, it's basically you saying "if you investigate someone and they turn up anti-town, just let them slide" which is the most scum thing to say I can imagine lol. VOTE: BlazikenGod
03/08/2016 13:29:26
Your "feeling" doesn't help town at all, it only helps the mafia in the case one of them is investigated (which is far more likely by the numbers, even if there is a miller)
I just don't get what the point of bringing up the existence of millers serves, it's basically you saying "if you investigate someone and they turn up anti-town, just let them slide" which is the most scum thing to say I can imagine lol. VOTE: BlazikenGod
03/08/2016 13:29:26
Ghostbone said:
Maribro said:
I also have reason to believe there may be a miller in this game. I'm not gonna say anything else on the matter other than that. I am not the miller nor am I a cop
Real talk, this is super suss.
It strongly seems like you're just expecting one of the 2 others in your mafia to be investigated soon, and are covering for them in advance.
If people are miller they should be claiming sooner rather than later to avoid wasting a cop's investigation, claiming miller after being investigated is ridiculous, and claiming miller only in the circumstance that one of your partners is found out is even more ridiculous.
There's one way and one way alone in which I would believe a miller claim post anti town investigation and I'd rather not divulge into any of that as it'll sway mafia decisions. If their reasons for not claiming now are dissatisfactory we should lynch them anyway for anti town behaviour. I'm trying to metagame Dean really hard right now as this is a closed setup and I want answers and for all I know there is not a miller in this game. Hopefully me bringing this all to light will mean that the miller claims (if there is one) and my aim is not to encourage mafia.
We also can't forget that there is a framer in this game and any one of us could show up anti town at any given moment. As such we should endeavour to make it as subtle as possible who it is we want investigating or else the mafia have power to make anyone appear guilty. We got lucky with the bus driver last night. Odds are we won't be lucky again.
blazikengod
sorry
vote: blazikengod We shouldn't let anyone that's scum slide.
If cop investigates and they come up anti town, we interrogate them
03/08/2016 13:40:14
I'm beginning to think maybe we should lynch Maribro, the only reason I wouldn't vote for him just yet is that we aren't going to get anything out of putting him at L-1 unlike Blaziken/Jezmo/Longshot/Invisi/Deez (maybe).
I feel as though that while we could easily take any of the aforementioned 5 out with some clever bus driving, Maribro is more of a liability and if he's gonna die it should probably be at our hands.
03/08/2016 13:43:25
I feel as though that while we could easily take any of the aforementioned 5 out with some clever bus driving, Maribro is more of a liability and if he's gonna die it should probably be at our hands.
03/08/2016 13:43:25
Gotta be up early, time for me to sleep, GN
03/08/2016 13:43:30
03/08/2016 13:43:30
Pazx said:
I'm beginning to think maybe we should lynch Maribro, the only reason I wouldn't vote for him just yet is that we aren't going to get anything out of putting him at L-1 unlike Blaziken/Jezmo/Longshot/Invisi/Deez (maybe).
I feel as though that while we could easily take any of the aforementioned 5 out with some clever bus driving, Maribro is more of a liability and if he's gonna die it should probably be at our hands.
Please don't lynch me
I'm probably one of the stronger and more active pro town players. Killing me will lose town a lot. If you guys are serious about lynching me I will defend myself to the ends of the Earth.
I've invested a lot in you guys so far, please invest back into me
03/08/2016 13:45:47
Aight so I've come to sort of a new revelation.
We can't just keep pressuring every possible lynch target until they defend themselves, all we're doing is revealing more and more info to the mafia to take into account. (having more PRs to target is a good thing for them, not a bad thing). We've seen this with longshot and sort of invisi, the mafia likely have a lot more information to work off now that they know more about the roles of those two.
So basically, yes we could likely get info out of blaziken/Jezmo/etc. if we put pressure on them, but at this rate it seems like we're helping the mafia out more than we're helping ourselves.
So a sort of strategy switching is in order, I have a fairly strong mafia read on Maribro based on his play this game (especially this new miller thing lol), and I think pazx does too, so I think it's time to take the heat of blaziken and put it onto Maribro.
VOTE: Maribro
03/08/2016 13:58:42
We can't just keep pressuring every possible lynch target until they defend themselves, all we're doing is revealing more and more info to the mafia to take into account. (having more PRs to target is a good thing for them, not a bad thing). We've seen this with longshot and sort of invisi, the mafia likely have a lot more information to work off now that they know more about the roles of those two.
Pazx said:
I'm beginning to think maybe we should lynch Maribro, the only reason I wouldn't vote for him just yet is that we aren't going to get anything out of putting him at L-1 unlike Blaziken/Jezmo/Longshot/Invisi/Deez (maybe).
So basically, yes we could likely get info out of blaziken/Jezmo/etc. if we put pressure on them, but at this rate it seems like we're helping the mafia out more than we're helping ourselves.
So a sort of strategy switching is in order, I have a fairly strong mafia read on Maribro based on his play this game (especially this new miller thing lol), and I think pazx does too, so I think it's time to take the heat of blaziken and put it onto Maribro.
VOTE: Maribro
03/08/2016 13:58:42
I've done heaps of pro town stuff all game. Idk why you're reading that I'm maf. I tried to save Laggy from being on L-1. If I was maf I wouldn't care for his life. I fleshed out heavily the goings on of night 1 and in the process, confirmed two members as townies. Wouldn't scum prefer chaos? With no obvious information it'd be much easier and scummier to hide in the shadows, instead I came forward with theory and logic so that we could understand as a group the complexities of night 1.
I only mentioned the miller thing because it's a role a new player might have gotten and may have been worried to claim. I don't think it's an acceptable defence for any person we get an anti town investigation result on.
Real talk if I end up getting lynched then I'm going to judge all of you hard. I've been an active and pro town member since the start of the game. If I'm killed I will flip town. I want to win. Winning means not killing townies. Killing me and losing two more townies tonight puts us 8-6. Horribly unfavourable position and with likely no obvious information leading us to mafia. Lynching me is gonna lose town this game tbh.
I was nearly lynched in the first mafia game but I managed to convince the town that I was not an enemy. This was a defining point in the game. Had I been lynched the mafia would likely have won. You're just gonna have to trust me.
also
wtf liability? I'm one of the most active and pro town members of this game. Deez is 10000000 times more of a liability than I am because his votes are completely unpredictable and do not follow logic of any kind at all.
03/08/2016 14:17:46
I only mentioned the miller thing because it's a role a new player might have gotten and may have been worried to claim. I don't think it's an acceptable defence for any person we get an anti town investigation result on.
Real talk if I end up getting lynched then I'm going to judge all of you hard. I've been an active and pro town member since the start of the game. If I'm killed I will flip town. I want to win. Winning means not killing townies. Killing me and losing two more townies tonight puts us 8-6. Horribly unfavourable position and with likely no obvious information leading us to mafia. Lynching me is gonna lose town this game tbh.
I was nearly lynched in the first mafia game but I managed to convince the town that I was not an enemy. This was a defining point in the game. Had I been lynched the mafia would likely have won. You're just gonna have to trust me.
also
Pazx said:
I feel as though that while we could easily take any of the aforementioned 5 out with some clever bus driving, Maribro is more of a liability and if he's gonna die it should probably be at our hands.
wtf liability? I'm one of the most active and pro town members of this game. Deez is 10000000 times more of a liability than I am because his votes are completely unpredictable and do not follow logic of any kind at all.
03/08/2016 14:17:46
Sorry Will, your comments about the Miller, buddying up to Pazx earlier. Like you have a read there is a Miller, but you're not the cop? Get the f*** outta here
It's too convenient. VOTE:Maribro Plus there are other roles that the player involved may not understand.
At the end of the day, if they don't understand their role - they should be talking to Dean for an explanation. No one else.
03/08/2016 20:15:43
It's too convenient. VOTE:Maribro Plus there are other roles that the player involved may not understand.
At the end of the day, if they don't understand their role - they should be talking to Dean for an explanation. No one else.
03/08/2016 20:15:43
With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!
Votes:
Deez (0)
SpaceJam (0)
LEF (0)
Barrydabusdriver (0)
Maribro (2) - Ghostbone, CubT
Urisk (0)
Wooy (0)
Ghostbone (0)
BlazikenGod (3) - Urisk, MrL, Maribro
Windkeeper0 (0)
Jezmo (0)
LtLongshot (1) - Deez
MrL (0)
BattleDolphin (0)
Pazx (0)
CubT (0)
Invisi (5) - LEF, BattleDolphin, SpaceJam, LtLongshot, BlazikenGod
No lynch (0)
Not voted (6) - Barrydabusdriver, Windkeeper0, Jezmo, Invisi, Pazx, Wooy
Yes talking to me for explanations on Goo is much better than spamming the thread with it.
03/08/2016 20:22:31
Votes:
Deez (0)
SpaceJam (0)
LEF (0)
Barrydabusdriver (0)
Maribro (2) - Ghostbone, CubT
Urisk (0)
Wooy (0)
Ghostbone (0)
BlazikenGod (3) - Urisk, MrL, Maribro
Windkeeper0 (0)
Jezmo (0)
LtLongshot (1) - Deez
MrL (0)
BattleDolphin (0)
Pazx (0)
CubT (0)
Invisi (5) - LEF, BattleDolphin, SpaceJam, LtLongshot, BlazikenGod
No lynch (0)
Not voted (6) - Barrydabusdriver, Windkeeper0, Jezmo, Invisi, Pazx, Wooy
Yes talking to me for explanations on Goo is much better than spamming the thread with it.
03/08/2016 20:22:31
Anyone want to read the new Dr. Seuss story, Let's Kill Will? I also feel like Maribro's play D1, to try to stop Laggy from getting lynched would be smart Mafia play to make him look town. Even though it was obvious that it was too late.
03/08/2016 20:36:59
03/08/2016 20:36:59
CubT said:
Anyone want to read the new Dr. Seuss story, Let's Kill Will? I also feel like Maribro's play D1, to try to stop Laggy from getting lynched would be smart Mafia play to make him look town. Even though it was obvious that it was too late.
This would make more sense in a game with only a single mafia, in a game with 2 mafias he wouldn't even know if Laggy was town or not. Conversely, if Laggy had flipped Mafia Maribro would have had no way of knowing that was going to happen.
That last point means the best way to play in this game as Mafia is to legitimately be actively pro-town. I'm going out now so I can't respond for a bit, but Maribro, you're in the hot seat, and you're getting my vote when I'm home.
03/08/2016 21:00:43
What a thread to come back to. Weighing in.
Maribro suggests he is neither a miller nor a cop but insists that there would be a miller in this game when we have no other reason to suspect such a thing.
He also suggests we shouldn't not lynch/kill anyone who shows up as anti town even though they might be the miller.
He finally suggests that the miller may not know how to come out and there is only one way he would accept someoning trying to come out as miller.
My thoughts are that hes likely a godfather. He'll show up cleanly if anyone suspects him and bothers to investigate which is why he didn't take the miller role. But by throwing miller into the mix even when there is already suggestions of a framer as well he is either attempting to nullify the cop or provide cover for one of his fellow mafia.
I'd like to hear some more thoughts from others.
03/08/2016 22:40:28
Maribro suggests he is neither a miller nor a cop but insists that there would be a miller in this game when we have no other reason to suspect such a thing.
He also suggests we shouldn't not lynch/kill anyone who shows up as anti town even though they might be the miller.
He finally suggests that the miller may not know how to come out and there is only one way he would accept someoning trying to come out as miller.
My thoughts are that hes likely a godfather. He'll show up cleanly if anyone suspects him and bothers to investigate which is why he didn't take the miller role. But by throwing miller into the mix even when there is already suggestions of a framer as well he is either attempting to nullify the cop or provide cover for one of his fellow mafia.
I'd like to hear some more thoughts from others.
03/08/2016 22:40:28
You guys are all jumping to wild conclusions based on the fact that you're all so desperate to try and close this day out.
Lunging me is the shittest play you guys could possibly do.
Don't.
(Idk guys maybe I'm being pro town because I want the town to win) I've already suggested the two reasons why there may be a Miller
1) I'm trying to meta game Dean.
2) if a new player doesn't know that they're supposed to claim, they wouldn't ask Dean that. They just wouldn't say anything
Just think about the most well known players in qld. Maybe you'll come to the same conclusion I did
03/08/2016 23:00:02
Lunging me is the shittest play you guys could possibly do.
Don't.
(Idk guys maybe I'm being pro town because I want the town to win) I've already suggested the two reasons why there may be a Miller
1) I'm trying to meta game Dean.
2) if a new player doesn't know that they're supposed to claim, they wouldn't ask Dean that. They just wouldn't say anything
Just think about the most well known players in qld. Maybe you'll come to the same conclusion I did
03/08/2016 23:00:02
Urisk said:
What a thread to come back to. Weighing in.
Maribro suggests he is neither a miller nor a cop but insists that there would be a miller in this game when we have no other reason to suspect such a thing.
He also suggests we shouldn't not lynch/kill anyone who shows up as anti town even though they might be the miller.
He finally suggests that the miller may not know how to come out and there is only one way he would accept someoning trying to come out as miller.
My thoughts are that hes likely a godfather. He'll show up cleanly if anyone suspects him and bothers to investigate which is why he didn't take the miller role. But by throwing miller into the mix even when there is already suggestions of a framer as well he is either attempting to nullify the cop or provide cover for one of his fellow mafia.
I'd like to hear some more thoughts from others.
Urisk said:that explains why he thought he wasnt going anywhere any time soon. He had the trust of the town and he knew he was immune to the other mafia so he had no worries.
What a thread to come back to. Weighing in.
Maribro suggests he is neither a miller nor a cop but insists that there would be a miller in this game when we have no other reason to suspect such a thing.
He also suggests we shouldn't not lynch/kill anyone who shows up as anti town even though they might be the miller.
He finally suggests that the miller may not know how to come out and there is only one way he would accept someoning trying to come out as miller.
My thoughts are that hes likely a godfather. He'll show up cleanly if anyone suspects him and bothers to investigate which is why he didn't take the miller role. But by throwing miller into the mix even when there is already suggestions of a framer as well he is either attempting to nullify the cop or provide cover for one of his fellow mafia.
I'd like to hear some more thoughts from others.
Defending laggy would be a good play as was mentioned, especially to initially disagree with pazx. However there connection and covering over eachother is suss, but was overlooked because they had modestly claimed themselves 100% town which no one wanted to argue with cos they'd get lynched (as invisi did).
He'd probably be fine with being investigated because a mafia teammate probably has some kinda of tole that prevents that. (Unless you cant investigate godfathers).
He's also been the only one blatantly saying he's town trust me etc. it seems a bit desperate, especially that no one else has felt the need to say they're town every two seconds.
Vote: Maribro
03/08/2016 23:02:43
Idk why me bringing up a Miller is bad anyway. Mafia could easily fake claim that without any prior discussion.
Oh yeah and if you guys lynch me you're gonna end up in the same position tomorrow but likely in an 8-6 format, with no leads and no evidence pointing you towards the Mafia.
Ffs think before you lynch. Town will probably end up losing if you kill me now. I'm not prepared to let that happen
03/08/2016 23:06:51
Oh yeah and if you guys lynch me you're gonna end up in the same position tomorrow but likely in an 8-6 format, with no leads and no evidence pointing you towards the Mafia.
Ffs think before you lynch. Town will probably end up losing if you kill me now. I'm not prepared to let that happen
03/08/2016 23:06:51
Godfathers show up as town when investigated. Mr.L im not quoting that whole thing esp cause you double quoted.
03/08/2016 23:09:32
03/08/2016 23:09:32
Also
Evidence that CubT is insane? He's claimed lef and lef claims he's insane himself
03/08/2016 23:10:51
Evidence that CubT is insane? He's claimed lef and lef claims he's insane himself
03/08/2016 23:10:51
LOL
03/08/2016 23:20:56
03/08/2016 23:20:56
Urisk said:Yeah that makes him more suss tbh.
Godfathers show up as town when investigated. Mr.L im not quoting that whole thing esp cause you double quoted.
No wonder he'd be fine with being investigated and doesn't think he'll be killed off by anyone.. He has to be godfather. It's too convenient for him to say all that and not be godfather. Alongside him constantly saying he's pro-town (which an investigation would support).
03/08/2016 23:31:46
Lmao. Okay.
Imagine if DeezQLD was the Miller.
03/08/2016 23:33:12
Imagine if DeezQLD was the Miller.
03/08/2016 23:33:12
MrL said:
Urisk said:Yeah that makes him more suss tbh.
Godfathers show up as town when investigated. Mr.L im not quoting that whole thing esp cause you double quoted.
No wonder he'd be fine with being investigated and doesn't think he'll be killed off by anyone.. He has to be godfather. It's too convenient for him to say all that and not be godfather. Alongside him constantly saying he's pro-town (which an investigation would support).
I never said either of those things, stop
03/08/2016 23:34:22
I'm fairly certain you have implied it, Will.
03/08/2016 23:35:47
03/08/2016 23:35:47
CubT said:
I'm fairly certain you have implied it, Will.
What the fuck?
Where…
You guys are being seriously stupid right now. You're trying to justify this idiotic lynch with made up evidence
03/08/2016 23:36:37
Your jokes about LEF being insane don't help your case...
03/08/2016 23:42:31
03/08/2016 23:42:31