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Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win!

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  3. Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win!
"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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6. If no majority has been reached, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there are players with equal votes, the lynchee is random.
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8. Dead players cannot post in this thread, and can no longer communicate privately if their role dictated that they could.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.
Inactive players will be given notice after 72 hours. If this happens several times over the course of the game the player will be removed from the game.

And we're back with another exciting edition of mafia, themed around Queensland's very popular Smashbox V tournament.

Alive:
Ghostbone, Victorian Mafia Godfather (investigation-immune), survived to win!
Windkeeper0, New South Welsh Mafia Odd-night Tracker, survived to win!

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 1.
Aerodrome, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 3.
JLo, replacing Barrydabusdriver day 3, Town Odd-night Cop, killed night 3.
CubT, Town Jack-of-all-Trades (investigate, track, watch, follow), killed night 3.
MrL, New South Welsh Mafia Role-Blocker, lynched day 4.
Wooy, Town Even-night Doctor, killed night 4.
Pazx, Vanilla Townie, killed night 4.
SpaceJam, Town One-shot Governor, killed night 4.
Urisk, Victorian Mafia Framer, lynched day 5.
BattleDolphin, Town Watcher, killed night 5.
LtLongshot, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killed night 5.
Invisi, New South Welsh Mafia Godfather (bulletproof), lynched day 6.
LEF, Victorian Mafia Role-stopper, killed night 6.
HydroPimp, Town Innocent Child, killed night 6.
Jezmo, Town Beloved Princess, lynched day 7.

Modkilled:
BlazikenGod, Town Bus Driver, day 2
dean 9 years ago
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UriskQueenslandSheik
91+ tourneys
Ghostbone said:
So, Urisk is claiming there's a roleblocker on his team, MrL claims there is a rolestopper on his team.

We obviously want the mafia to take each other out too, and for that to happen they need to know who is on the other team.

Currently, unless MrL knows other members of Urisk's team, lynching Urisk just prevents that from happening. Urisk's team is likely to try and kill either MrL or Invisi, while MrL's team is likely to kill BattleDolphin as a confirmed PR.
Which means our best line of play is to lynch MrL or Invisi today imo, and if there's still confirmed mafia alive tomorrow, we obviously lynch them. This is because we have a chance to take out the rolestopper, which is a stronger role than the roleblocker as it lets longshot have a chance to kill someone. And tonight, Battledolphin watches Urisk, and we get to see who protects Urisk.

Does this make sense to other townies? (Mainly Pazx/Hydropimp)


Just a tid bit but Mr.L is claiming to be the mafia role blocker. My team has a rolestopper which is like a doctor but also prevents whoever they target from being targetted.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
LtLongshot said: Other way around


Oh you're right, I used the wrong terms.
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Pazx said:
MrL said:
Focusing on my team still leaves 3 unknowns across the two factions.

If you know two of my team, you can kill us at any time. What you can't do is target urisk's team because we still need to figure out who they are.

Kill my team will ensure your loss. They will kill you and you won't know who has done it. You know 2 of our team.

I won't target town if you don't target me. All I want is for the other mafia team to be heavily damaged. Lynch urisk, you take out their leader. Then we can figure out his two allies. Get them down to 1. Then you can take invisi and I out. It'll leave 1 on each. If you do what urisk is saying it'll leave one of us and all of them.


You won't target town anyway, you can't afford to do that, neither mafia can afford it. You don't even know who is in the other mafia. We know you're not actually trying to help us.
I'm forced into a positon where I need to help you. If I don't help you. We're all boned. If I do help you, we're only probably boned.

Urisk said:
Pazx said:
MrL said:
Focusing on my team still leaves 3 unknowns across the two factions.

If you know two of my team, you can kill us at any time. What you can't do is target urisk's team because we still need to figure out who they are.

Kill my team will ensure your loss. They will kill you and you won't know who has done it. You know 2 of our team.

I won't target town if you don't target me. All I want is for the other mafia team to be heavily damaged. Lynch urisk, you take out their leader. Then we can figure out his two allies. Get them down to 1. Then you can take invisi and I out. It'll leave 1 on each. If you do what urisk is saying it'll leave one of us and all of them.


You won't target town anyway, you can't afford to do that, neither mafia can afford it. You don't even know who is in the other mafia. We know you're not actually trying to help us.


Exactly. Hence youf best bet is to lower 1 mafia team as quickly as possible i.e lynch the two known mafia members to kill off one team as fast as possible.
That leaves your mafia to do whatever you all want and win with no leads as to who the rest are.
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
The Votes Currently as I can tell are:
Urisk : MRL
MRL : HydroPimp, SpaceJam, URisk, Battledolphin, Wooy, LEF

Not Voted:LTLongshot, Pazx, Ghostbone, Windkeeper0, Jezmo
Not Contributed today: Invisi
9 years ago
Windkeeper0New South WalesLucina
1+ tourneys
Wii U: Windkeeper0
Sorry for not posting during this messy war going on between Urisk and Mr L, as I had segested I was looking through the forum again to see if there were any links between players.
From what I can gather our options are too:
1) Kill Mr L getting rid of the role blocker and allowing for the Urisk's mafia to kill Invisi if Invisi isn't bulletproof. Urisk's mafia would be guaranteed a safe night as the role stopper he claims to have would save him. This would leave one mafia from the Invisi/Mr L group. We would then need to find some links between them and Invisi/Mr L.
2) Kill Urisk bringing his group down to two members. Urisk's mafia either kills Mr L or Invisi with no risk of his mafia being in danger. This would be 1 mafia from each side gone. We would need to go through the same process as with option 1 to find the remaining mafia on each side. We can lynch the other member of Mr L's mafia after the day has finished as well.
3) Kill Invisi pretty much the same scenario as 1 except we still have a role blocker running around.

So our options are to either have each mafia lose 1 member with us getting rid of the role blocker an important role for Mr L's group or we have Mr L's mafia lose 2 members. So what is our goal to get rid of a whole group of weaken both groups?
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
Which Puts MR.L at L-1
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
ANYONE WHO HAS VOTED FOR MRL PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD UNVOTE WE NEED TO THINK TODAY OUT
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
LtLongshot said:
ANYONE WHO HAS VOTED FOR MRL PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD UNVOTE WE NEED TO THINK TODAY OUT


Why not just kill a mafia member, isnt that the goal of the Lynch before they then kill us at night?
9 years ago
PazxAustralian Capital TerritoryDiddy Kong
216+ tourneys
Switch: SW-7769-5972-0967
Wii U: Pazx13
invisi is at a tournament btw

i agree with unvoting for now

but im also going out now sorry fam
9 years ago
WooyQueenslandROB
14+ tourneys
Ghostbone said:
So, Urisk is claiming there's a roleblocker on his team, MrL claims there is a rolestopper on his team.

We obviously want the mafia to take each other out too, and for that to happen they need to know who is on the other team.

Currently, unless MrL knows other members of Urisk's team, lynching Urisk just prevents that from happening. Urisk's team is likely to try and kill either MrL or Invisi, while MrL's team is likely to kill BattleDolphin as a confirmed PR.
Which means our best line of play is to lynch MrL or Invisi today imo, and if there's still confirmed mafia alive tomorrow, we obviously lynch them. This is because we have a chance to take out the rolestopper, which is a stronger role than the roleblocker as it lets longshot have a chance to kill someone. And tonight, Battledolphin watches Urisk, and we get to see who protects Urisk.

Does this make sense to other townies? (Mainly Pazx/Hydropimp)


This is a great plan LtLongshot. Can we just go with this?
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
LEF said:
LtLongshot said:
ANYONE WHO HAS VOTED FOR MRL PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD UNVOTE WE NEED TO THINK TODAY OUT


Why not just kill a mafia member, isnt that the goal of the Lynch before they then kill us at night?
If we rush this we lose, All i have been doing today is thinking about scenarios, most of it is town losing. If we rush into a decision then we have a high chance to lose.
9 years ago
WooyQueenslandROB
14+ tourneys
The thing I quoted was Ghostbone's plan not LtLongshot's sorry if that was unlclear
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
Guys we need to first figure out who the other mafia members are, That is the only way we could win this game.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Windkeeper0 said:
So our options are to either have each mafia lose 1 member with us getting rid of the role blocker an important role for Mr L's group or we have Mr L's mafia lose 2 members. So what is our goal to get rid of a whole group of weaken both groups?

In the case that Urisk survives night 4 despite being targeted by Invisi (assuming we lynch MrL), we can get a result from Battledolphin telling us who protected Urisk giving us another mafia member.

If we lynch Urisk I'm not sure we have a similar information gaining line of play.
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
LEF/Wooy/Hydro please unvote so we can sort the mess out instead of making a larger mess.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
@longshot, I'm pretty sure my plan is the best way to figure out who the other mafia members are, do you think otherwise?
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
Ghostbone said:
@longshot, I'm pretty sure my plan is the best way to figure out who the other mafia members are, do you think otherwise?
Your plan gets us Nowhere with figuring out who the rest of the mafia are.
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
LtLongshot, you are sounding more and more Mafia Like, I like Ghosts Plan, but idk
would be interesting.
to see what could happen
assuming we as the town can use the situation to our advantage.
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
Ok think about it, We follow ghost's plan, Yay we kill some mafia members, But we are still in the exact same position that we are currently in Nothing changes apart from a few less people can talk. And that is it. We would still need to figure out who the rest of the mafia are at that point, it will be the exact same list as we have today. NOTHING will change. Please use your heads.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
We get information out of Battledolphin in regards to who's protecting Urisk, with the bonus benefit of YOU being able to take a mafia member out since MrL won't be able to roleblock you (assuming you're actually vigi)

Except it's looking more and more likely that you're the 3rd member of the MrL/Invisi mafia lol.
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
Or we could use the LEF Logic and just randomly fire at someone and hope for the best like Laggy in Game 2, I had a pretty good hit rate in the last game.

This Game I have felt odd about invisi the whole time, hense why i keep trying to vote him off and thankfully now I have a good reason to, but like, IDK I am not going to unvote, just a nice reminder that we are still at L-1 so there is time, but who knows what may happen.

I am keeping my vote at Mr. L because we know he is mafia and that with the other mafia knowing that Invisi is a member of mafia we can hopefully get 2 maybe even 3 mafia dead today :). which in its self is very good :)
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
Ghostbone said:
We get information out of Battledolphin in regards to who's protecting Urisk, with the bonus benefit of YOU being able to take a mafia member out since MrL won't be able to roleblock you (assuming you're actually vigi)

Except it's looking more and more likely that you're the 3rd member of the MrL/Invisi mafia lol.
You wrote down in your plan and just then that BattleDolphin watches Urisk. They'll know this, the mafia are highly unpredictable they CAN afford to lose urisk, why would they protect him, He just came out of the blue was like "Yep I'm a mafia member, my team doesn't need me anymore" Why would they protect him?
9 years ago
LachlanFQueenslandSquirtle
67+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6629-2203-1611
Wii U: lachlanfirth96
3DS: 0232-8657-5660
LtLongshot said:
Ok think about it, We follow ghost's plan, Yay we kill some mafia members, But we are still in the exact same position that we are currently in Nothing changes apart from a few less people can talk. And that is it. We would still need to figure out who the rest of the mafia are at that point, it will be the exact same list as we have today. NOTHING will change. Please use your heads.


The point of mafia is to kill the mafia. For those who dont understand what my last comment meant.
9 years ago
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
He isn't.

I roleblocked him lmao.

I won't roleblock him if he doesn't attack me. I'll block whoever you want. dolphin can track me to prove it if he really wants.
9 years ago
LtLongshotQueenslandLink
74+ tourneys
Switch: SW-8346-1530-3039
Wii U: LtLongshot
LEF said:
LtLongshot said:
Ok think about it, We follow ghost's plan, Yay we kill some mafia members, But we are still in the exact same position that we are currently in Nothing changes apart from a few less people can talk. And that is it. We would still need to figure out who the rest of the mafia are at that point, it will be the exact same list as we have today. NOTHING will change. Please use your heads.


The point of mafia is to kill the mafia. For those who dont understand what my last comment meant.
How can we kill the mafia if we don't know who the mafia is.
9 years ago
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