Mafia, Smashbox V edition - game over; VIC and NSW mafia win! page 64

"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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And we're back with another exciting edition of mafia, themed around Queensland's very popular Smashbox V tournament.

Alive:
Ghostbone, Victorian Mafia Godfather (investigation-immune), survived to win!
Windkeeper0, New South Welsh Mafia Odd-night Tracker, survived to win!

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 1.
Aerodrome, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 1.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 3.
JLo, replacing Barrydabusdriver day 3, Town Odd-night Cop, killed night 3.
CubT, Town Jack-of-all-Trades (investigate, track, watch, follow), killed night 3.
MrL, New South Welsh Mafia Role-Blocker, lynched day 4.
Wooy, Town Even-night Doctor, killed night 4.
Pazx, Vanilla Townie, killed night 4.
SpaceJam, Town One-shot Governor, killed night 4.
Urisk, Victorian Mafia Framer, lynched day 5.
BattleDolphin, Town Watcher, killed night 5.
LtLongshot, Town 2-shot Vigilante, killed night 5.
Invisi, New South Welsh Mafia Godfather (bulletproof), lynched day 6.
LEF, Victorian Mafia Role-stopper, killed night 6.
HydroPimp, Town Innocent Child, killed night 6.
Jezmo, Town Beloved Princess, lynched day 7.

Modkilled:
BlazikenGod, Town Bus Driver, day 2

dean 03/14/2016 10:27:54

Urisk

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MrL said:

LtLongshot said:

MrL said:

Urisk said:

MrL said:

LtLongshot said:
MrL, Urisk, Which one of you has a roleblocker. I could help you help me and eliminate an entire faction in 1 Day+night
im sure whoever is blocker can help you out there

Urisk said:

LtLongshot said:
MrL, Urisk, Which one of you has a roleblocker. I could help you help me and eliminate an entire faction in 1 Day+night

We don't have anyone that could target someone and prevent them from performing a role. we have someone that can make anyone untargetable.
care to prove

Its called a role stopper, ive posted it multiple times. Of course I don't want to oust my team members lol.
So the town needs to trust a mafia's guess.

Nah not happening.

I have proof. Lynch Urisk and I will give you proof, and help them take out Urisk's allies.

Town knows 2 of one team, and 1 of the other. Would the town like to know more of the other team's members? I can help.
How can you "help"
For starters if you decide to lynch someone else (although i do suggest you start with urisk), you can try and figure out urisk's allies. Then tonight I block him and you can take him out.

I can prove my role, he can't prove his. You'll need to take his word. Lynch him now and I can be of use to town by blocking who suspect is mafia from performing there action, or even killing.

Yes that's right, let him a role preventer and more powerful mafia live. I can prove my role as the framer because cAKE was framed and aero was killed. Like I said, I'm was annoyed with him claiming to have gotten away with not getting lynched so I killed him night 1 and went on to frame Pazx. Clearly a target for much controversy as apparently everyone wanted him dead that night.

MrL said:They'd need to trust your word. They can witness my action.

They already have witnessed my action

03/13/2016 05:20:00

Ghostbone

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MrL said:
I have proof. Lynch Urisk and I will give you proof, and help them take out Urisk's allies.

Lynch Urisk first?
Why would you give us information after that happens lmao

03/13/2016 05:20:04

LtLongshot

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So MrL, you did Roleblock me on night 2?

03/13/2016 05:22:11

Ben_Gold

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Ghostbone said:

MrL said:
I have proof. Lynch Urisk and I will give you proof, and help them take out Urisk's allies.

Lynch Urisk first?
Why would you give us information after that happens lmao

So Mafia A doesn't destroy both you and us.

LtLongshot said:
So MrL, you did Roleblock me on night 2?

Yes

03/13/2016 05:23:46

LtLongshot

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Dean where are the votes at?

03/13/2016 05:27:14

dean

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Busy today sorry =)

03/13/2016 05:28:21

Urisk

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MrL said:

Ghostbone said:

MrL said:
I have proof. Lynch Urisk and I will give you proof, and help them take out Urisk's allies.

Lynch Urisk first?
Why would you give us information after that happens lmao
So Mafia A doesn't destroy both you and us.

LtLongshot said:
So MrL, you did Roleblock me on night 2?
Yes

That's cute. if the town is looking to not get destroyed there should be 0 reason for them to not lynch you today. They have 2 of your members pinned down and as such should take you out to cut down on NK's. They have a guaranteed lynch on me whenever to ensure they do not get stuck in LYLO. Lynching me provides the town with next to nothing as I am a framer and you have ousted yourself as role blocker.

03/13/2016 05:29:35

LtLongshot

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03/13/2016 05:29:40

Ben_Gold

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Lynching you takes out out of the game. It makes town majority. You cannot help them. I can.

I can help take out more of your mafia pals.

Lynching you is best because you can't be NK'd. From there, your mafia team is vulnerable to NK's like the rest of us. It's fair game. Otherwise your team has a huge lead.

03/13/2016 05:33:19

LtLongshot

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MrL said:
Lynching you takes out out of the game. It makes town majority. You cannot help them. I can.

I can help take out more of your mafia pals.

Lynching you is best because you can't be NK'd. From there, your mafia team is vulnerable to NK's like the rest of us. It's fair game. Otherwise your team has a huge lead.

The think is they have a role blocker, Which is who is needed to be killed first. Otherwise if their down to 2 members they are basically invulnerable.

03/13/2016 05:34:49

Urisk

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MrL said:
Lynching you takes out out of the game. It makes town majority. You cannot help them. I can.

I can help take out more of your mafia pals.

Lynching you is best because you can't be NK'd. From there, your mafia team is vulnerable to NK's like the rest of us. It's fair game. Otherwise your team has a huge lead.

Except im not NK proof, merely protected. Interesting that you'd try to get LT to throw away his last kill on trying to prove this as well. I can get lynched any time why would I be an NK target. Like I said if they truly want a town majority they need to get you out of the game as fast as possible.

03/13/2016 05:37:30

Ben_Gold

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Then we better choose carefully.

Lynch urisk, so there's 2.

Then we look at who is left excluding invisi and I.

Determine who is definitely town from in there, and then from the remaining suspects. I role block one person, dolphin does his magic on another. We'll have a good chance of hitting one.

Right now you want the least mafia left. Taking out invisi and leaving me alive for now gives you the best chance. I want to take out as many mafia as I can.

Right now Urisk's team has the lead. That lead will be greatened if he survives today/tonight. We need to start working on who his allies are immediately. Start off by making it so there's only 2 of them to discuss strategy between. I'm guessing urisk was the thinker behind their mafia. Without him they stand much less of a chance and it evens the playing field alot more.

Not focusing on urisk and his team now, screws both us and town over.

I don't want him to waste his kill on you. I want you lynched. If it had to come to it, it would've been worth taking you out though.

The use of his kill is pivotal to your team's defeat. It needs to take out atleast one of you.

03/13/2016 05:44:36

Urisk

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MrL said:
Then we better choose carefully.

Lynch urisk, so there's 2.

Then we look at who is left excluding invisi and I.

Determine who is definitely town from in there, and then from the remaining suspects. I role block one person, dolphin does his magic on another. We'll have a good chance of hitting one.

Right now you want the least mafia left. Taking out invisi and leaving me alive for now gives you the best chance. I want to take out as many mafia as I can.

Right now Urisk's team has the lead. That lead will be greatened if he survives today/tonight. We need to start working on who his allies are immediately. Start off by making it so there's only 2 of them to discuss strategy between. I'm guessing urisk was the thinker behind their mafia. Without him they stand much less of a chance and it evens the playing field alot more.

Not focusing on urisk and his team now, screws both us and town over.
I don't want him to waste his kill on you. I want you lynched. If it had to come to it, it would've been worth taking you out though.

The use of his kill is pivotal to your team's defeat. It needs to take out atleast one of you.

What a crock. Both mafia need to kill the town to win this, and the other mafia team. You have no idea who the rest of my team is. The thing is though, the more there are of you the harder it's going to be to kill you all off. You're never going to NK yourselves so you'll just pick off town members as they have to lynch you 1 by 1. The same will have to happen with my team. The thing is they know more of you than they do of mine. So if they really care about the towns victory theyll take you out. Because you need to be lynched. and then invisi needs to be lynched and then they need to find your remaining team member. Sure I may be dead by that point but it sure isn't you that's going to be killing me.

Once you're dead, and invisi too your mafia team is much much easier to narrow down and ensure NKs are reduced by half, increasing the longevity of the town. If the town split up and decide to lynch one half of the mafia then the other they merely risk losing sooner.

03/13/2016 06:01:57

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this bread is delicious

03/13/2016 06:08:39

JEANS

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Vote:MrL

03/13/2016 06:11:33

LtLongshot

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Can we ALL UNVOTE until we have a plan of attack PLEASE

This Day is going to determine whether we win or lose lets not rush into a decision

03/13/2016 06:12:59

Pazx

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This whole "you need us" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

IMO it's in the town's best interest NOT to wipe out an entire mafia faction tonight.

maybe we should lynch urisk and have longshot target Mr L, leaving urisk's mafia to target Invisi? invisi (who is apparently at a tournament)'s mafia can't stop both the kills, can they?

03/13/2016 06:16:37

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Pazx said:
This whole "you need us" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

IMO it's in the town's best interest NOT to wipe out an entire mafia faction tonight.
maybe we should lynch urisk and have longshot target Mr L, leaving urisk's mafia to target Invisi? invisi (who is apparently at a tournament)'s mafia can't stop both the kills, can they?

Problem is MrL is the roleblocker, making any move i make on him worthless

They also could have some sort of protection role (reason why invisi didnt die day 2)

03/13/2016 06:18:02

Pazx

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LtLongshot said:

Pazx said:
This whole "you need us" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

IMO it's in the town's best interest NOT to wipe out an entire mafia faction tonight.
maybe we should lynch urisk and have longshot target Mr L, leaving urisk's mafia to target Invisi? invisi (who is apparently at a tournament)'s mafia can't stop both the kills, can they?
Problem is MrL is the roleblocker, making any move i make on him worthless
They also could have some sort of protection role (reason why invisi didnt die day 2)

I doubt they have two protective/blocking roles, hence you targeting one of them and urisk's gang targeting the other basically guarantees they'll lose at least one member.

03/13/2016 06:19:07

LtLongshot

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Pazx said:

LtLongshot said:

Pazx said:
This whole "you need us" nonsense is just that, nonsense.

IMO it's in the town's best interest NOT to wipe out an entire mafia faction tonight.
maybe we should lynch urisk and have longshot target Mr L, leaving urisk's mafia to target Invisi? invisi (who is apparently at a tournament)'s mafia can't stop both the kills, can they?
Problem is MrL is the roleblocker, making any move i make on him worthless
They also could have some sort of protection role (reason why invisi didnt die day 2)

I doubt they have two protective/blocking roles, hence you targeting one of them and urisk's gang targeting the other basically guarantees they'll lose at least one member.

No it doesn't MrL roleblocks me, making me useless. Then they use protection on invisi. Making Mafia A useless, only way they get a kill is if we both target the same person.

03/13/2016 06:22:49

Ben_Gold

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Focusing on my team still leaves 3 unknowns across the two factions.

If you know two of my team, you can kill us at any time. What you can't do is target urisk's team because we still need to figure out who they are.

Kill my team will ensure your loss. They will kill you and you won't know who has done it. You know 2 of our team.

I won't target town if you don't target me. All I want is for the other mafia team to be heavily damaged. Lynch urisk, you take out their leader. Then we can figure out his two allies. Get them down to 1. Then you can take invisi and I out. It'll leave 1 on each. If you do what urisk is saying it'll leave one of us and all of them.

03/13/2016 06:23:11

Pazx

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MrL said:
Focusing on my team still leaves 3 unknowns across the two factions.

If you know two of my team, you can kill us at any time. What you can't do is target urisk's team because we still need to figure out who they are.

Kill my team will ensure your loss. They will kill you and you won't know who has done it. You know 2 of our team.

I won't target town if you don't target me. All I want is for the other mafia team to be heavily damaged. Lynch urisk, you take out their leader. Then we can figure out his two allies. Get them down to 1. Then you can take invisi and I out. It'll leave 1 on each. If you do what urisk is saying it'll leave one of us and all of them.

You won't target town anyway, you can't afford to do that, neither mafia can afford it. You don't even know who is in the other mafia. We know you're not actually trying to help us.

03/13/2016 06:26:41

Ghostbone

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So, Urisk is claiming there's a roleblocker on his team, MrL claims there is a rolestopper on his team.

We obviously want the mafia to take each other out too, and for that to happen they need to know who is on the other team.

Currently, unless MrL knows other members of Urisk's team, lynching Urisk just prevents that from happening. Urisk's team is likely to try and kill either MrL or Invisi, while MrL's team is likely to kill BattleDolphin as a confirmed PR.
Which means our best line of play is to lynch MrL or Invisi today imo, and if there's still confirmed mafia alive tomorrow, we obviously lynch them. This is because we have a chance to take out the rolestopper, which is a stronger role than the roleblocker as it lets longshot have a chance to kill someone. And tonight, Battledolphin watches Urisk, and we get to see who protects Urisk.

Does this make sense to other townies? (Mainly Pazx/Hydropimp)

03/13/2016 06:29:50

Urisk

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Pazx said:

MrL said:
Focusing on my team still leaves 3 unknowns across the two factions.

If you know two of my team, you can kill us at any time. What you can't do is target urisk's team because we still need to figure out who they are.

Kill my team will ensure your loss. They will kill you and you won't know who has done it. You know 2 of our team.

I won't target town if you don't target me. All I want is for the other mafia team to be heavily damaged. Lynch urisk, you take out their leader. Then we can figure out his two allies. Get them down to 1. Then you can take invisi and I out. It'll leave 1 on each. If you do what urisk is saying it'll leave one of us and all of them.

You won't target town anyway, you can't afford to do that, neither mafia can afford it. You don't even know who is in the other mafia. We know you're not actually trying to help us.

Exactly. Hence youf best bet is to lower 1 mafia team as quickly as possible i.e lynch the two known mafia members to kill off one team as fast as possible.

03/13/2016 06:31:09

LtLongshot

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Ghostbone said:
So, Urisk is claiming there's a roleblocker on his team, MrL claims there is a rolestopper on his team.

Other way around

03/13/2016 06:31:51

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