What we know:
1) I was roleblocked last night.
2) wooy made a mistake in killing lef. It was pretty blatantly obvious to me that he was town and Barry was a more popular vote for who to lynch
3) Corvid had a two shot night kill protection
4) our best player and our most important role died last night.
What can we gain from this information?
1) hydro pimp is probably a role blocker. He claimed to have role blocked JLo on night 1. Our best bet for a lynch today is him. It also means I'm now a vanilla townie so I'm much less of a target for future night kills
2) wooy is a typical ness player and will literally Ebola back throw anything that moves.
3 and 4) why do I think there is no doc? Well, why else would the Mafia target Pazx? He was an obvious target for protection, so obvious that targeting him would be utterly stupid. The Mafia couldn't afford to waste a night kill again and why would the doctor not protect him? Corvid had a two shot night kill protection. It's likely that the Mafia targeted him on night one, suspecting him of being a fishy power role or a serial killer. Knowing that wooy had also targeted him basically confirmed their suspicion that there was no doctor. He hadn't been protected and the fact they also killed Atyeo without any prevention added to the knowledge that they could target anyone they felt like. I had a suspicion that there was no doctor when I asked for a reveal. Everyone seemed clueless and everyone that behaved overly defensively has been proven as a non doc. Every play from here on in should be made with the pretence that there is no doc. This means urisk is likely the next person on their hitlist. I can't stress enough that this point shouldn't be discussed. We are much safer assuming there is a doc than by not. Trust me on this.
Our play from here should be to firstly kill hydro pimp. After? I'm not really sure. Nobody strikes me as anti town but we can cross the bridge when we come to it.
Re: who Corvid targeted night 1, I'm not sure. It's possible that there was a doctor with a limited number of saves or he targeted a bullet proof Mafia and lied about it for some reason.
02/25/2016 05:51:58
Agreed, I think barry/invisi/aero are future targets for mafia potentiality. How can you confirm you were role blocked?
02/25/2016 06:03:45
02/25/2016 06:03:45
Because as agreed I tried to kill hydro but he's still alive.
02/25/2016 06:10:29
02/25/2016 06:10:29
I think it's a massive jump thinking that there is no doc. I would still assume there is one since i have some issues with your last point:
- I find it highly unlikely that Wooy and the Mafia targeted the same person on N1
- If they did target him, why would the Mafia aim for Corvid instead of an active townie like Pazx or Atyeo? The Mafia could've easily left him alone and he would've been a lynch candidate soon enough due to his anti-town tendencies.
- You were the only one who insisted that the doctor reveal himself. Everyone else agreed that we didn't want to put the doc in the line of fire.
I agree that the best lynch today is to take out Hydro, but we really have to think about how to bring out the others
02/25/2016 06:11:39
- I find it highly unlikely that Wooy and the Mafia targeted the same person on N1
- If they did target him, why would the Mafia aim for Corvid instead of an active townie like Pazx or Atyeo? The Mafia could've easily left him alone and he would've been a lynch candidate soon enough due to his anti-town tendencies.
- You were the only one who insisted that the doctor reveal himself. Everyone else agreed that we didn't want to put the doc in the line of fire.
I agree that the best lynch today is to take out Hydro, but we really have to think about how to bring out the others
02/25/2016 06:11:39
Well that escalated quickly.
Well I can safely say that there is a doctor because Corvid said he targeted Urisk (well... implied anyway) and he didn't die. If that's the case, then why isn't Urisk dead? If the doctor was roleblocked then Maribro clearly couldn't have shot anyone because Hydro is still alive.
Pazx made a good point the other day, why did we just accept what Maribro had to say? Of his three powers, conveniently for him none of them have worked.
HydroPimp is confirmed mafia and needs to die.
Urisk, you gain cop powers tonight, who are you going to investigate? I think Maribro is a top candidate for investigation.
VOTE: HydroPimp JLo brings up a good point that I had completely forgotten. Your constant doctor pestering.
02/25/2016 06:25:31
Well I can safely say that there is a doctor because Corvid said he targeted Urisk (well... implied anyway) and he didn't die. If that's the case, then why isn't Urisk dead? If the doctor was roleblocked then Maribro clearly couldn't have shot anyone because Hydro is still alive.
Pazx made a good point the other day, why did we just accept what Maribro had to say? Of his three powers, conveniently for him none of them have worked.
HydroPimp is confirmed mafia and needs to die.
Urisk, you gain cop powers tonight, who are you going to investigate? I think Maribro is a top candidate for investigation.
VOTE: HydroPimp JLo brings up a good point that I had completely forgotten. Your constant doctor pestering.
02/25/2016 06:25:31
so ahh, are we gonna kill the real serial killer guys? Vote:JLo
02/25/2016 06:28:57
02/25/2016 06:28:57
HydroPimp said:
so ahh, are we gonna kill the real serial killer guys? Vote:JLo
Double serial killer, KEK
02/25/2016 06:33:10
Aerodrome said:
Urisk, you gain cop powers tonight, who are you going to investigate? I think Maribro is a top candidate for investigation.
02/25/2016 06:39:11
Aerodrome said:
Aerodrome said:
Urisk, you gain cop powers tonight, who are you going to investigate? I think Maribro is a top candidate for investigation.
I'm yet to decide, I am still waiting on further information that today will bring. With that in mind, I dont think straight lynching hydro is the way to go. Were 100% sure he is a mafiosa so we can lynch him however we want. I think we put the pressure on some other people, namely barry and windkeeper who have provided almost nothing throughout the course of this entire game.
I would like to point out however there is some risk in not killing hydro as he is a probably role blocker.
Maribro should not be considered to be mafia as wooy murdered LEF. This means that maribro was indeed roleblocked or all 3 of those players are the remaining mafia. Were that the case that means mafia has additional night kill powers.
02/25/2016 06:46:09
Hydro needs to be lynched today or we lose, you lemon.
02/25/2016 06:48:25
02/25/2016 06:48:25
OK cool I can actually post in the chat. Again, I was cut off from contributing to the last day due to it ending before I got home. Hydro has both confirmed that he is mafia and proven that Jlo is townie. I might also what to add that when Laggy was mentioning people who weren't posting much he left out Hydro. So the likelihood that Barry is townie is now higher in my opinion as both of the other Laggy claims where not mafia. I know I'm basing most of this off of a dead mafia however for me to think that Barry is mafia after Laggy had already blamed 2 townies and left out another quite mafia it would have to be pretty definite evidence. Also I started typing that before you called me out Urisk.
02/25/2016 06:49:16
02/25/2016 06:49:16
or some other mafia player.
If the mafia has some other night kill option, then Wooy could possibly be a mafia aligned vig.
02/25/2016 06:50:13
If the mafia has some other night kill option, then Wooy could possibly be a mafia aligned vig.
02/25/2016 06:50:13
Not killing off Hydro now would be plain stupid he has already said he is a role blocker so having him alive is not going to help one bit. @Urisk
02/25/2016 06:54:32
HydroPimp said:
I roleblocked JLo on Night 1, I suspect him to be the Serial Killer. Just a reminder both the Mafia and the Town need the Serial Killer dead to win.
Vote: Corvid.
02/25/2016 06:54:32
Aerodrome said:
Hydro needs to be lynched today or we lose, you lemon.
I agree though I think we should put pressure on others as well. We aren't necessarily in a Lylo situation. and our odds of correctly lynching are 1 in 2. (We have 3 remaining mafia 1 being hydro and 4 suspicious players)
If we lynch hydro today we end up with the same 1 in 2 odds. If we dont lynch hydro today and lynch him tomorrow instead. we get more information today and possibly lynch a mafia. If we lynch a town member mafia goes to 3/7 players and our remaining lynch list is much much tighter.
The remaining townsperson from that 1 in 3 players should know by now who is town and who isnt. This allows the towns people to systematically eliminate the remaining mafia, resulting in a town win.
Aerodrome said:
or some other mafia player.
If the mafia has some other night kill option, then Wooy could possibly be a mafia aligned vig.
I doubt this to be the case.
Windkeeper0 said:
Not killing off Hydro now would be plain stupid he has already said he is a role blocker so having him alive is not going to help one bit. @Urisk
HydroPimp said:
I roleblocked JLo on Night 1, I suspect him to be the Serial Killer. Just a reminder both the Mafia and the Town need the Serial Killer dead to win.
Vote: Corvid.
What role is hydro going to block? I'm already dead and wooy can't kill again tonight
02/25/2016 07:00:40
The doctor, duh.
02/25/2016 07:01:29
02/25/2016 07:01:29
Aerodrome said:
The doctor, duh.
Which is who again?
02/25/2016 07:03:47
How am I supposed to know?
02/25/2016 07:04:59
02/25/2016 07:04:59
Aerodrome said:
How am I supposed to know?
So how does the mafia know? Heres a hint if they did he'd already be dead
02/25/2016 07:09:47
or maybe they got lucky and roleblocked him??????
It's not rocket science.
02/25/2016 07:12:26
It's not rocket science.
02/25/2016 07:12:26
Then its one of the 4 remaining players. We target one of them and if they step forward as the doctor either the real doctor steps forward or a mafia doctor does. This leaves 2 playerd and we target hydropimp. Removing the ability to roleblock for the mafia. Then when the doctor dies during the night we kill the remaining mafia player leaving us with 1 mafia player left.
02/25/2016 07:17:59
02/25/2016 07:17:59
Aerodrome said:
Well I can safely say that there is a doctor because Corvid said he targeted Urisk (well... implied anyway) and he didn't die. If that's the case, then why isn't Urisk dead? If the doctor was roleblocked then Maribro clearly couldn't have shot anyone because Hydro is still alive.
Pazx made a good point the other day, why did we just accept what Maribro had to say? Of his three powers, conveniently for him none of them have worked.
HydroPimp is confirmed mafia and needs to die.
Urisk, you gain cop powers tonight, who are you going to investigate? I think Maribro is a top candidate for investigation.
VOTE: HydroPimp JLo brings up a good point that I had completely forgotten. Your constant doctor pestering.
I told you guys, don't discuss this. Our best play is if we assume there is no doctor. You HAVE to trust me on this. No more discussion on this point.
Not true, my track on JLo worked, I just didn't gain any really valuable information.
Don't investigate me. It'll be a waste of an investigation and I would sooner lynch myself to prove my innocence than for you guys to waste an investigation on me. This probably sounds kind of suspicious but I want town to win. Investigating me will put us behind. Think carefully about who you want to investigate and remember that there is probably a godfather around somewhere.
JLo said:
I think it's a massive jump thinking that there is no doc. I would still assume there is one since i have some issues with your last point:
- I find it highly unlikely that Wooy and the Mafia targeted the same person on N1
- If they did target him, why would the Mafia aim for Corvid instead of an active townie like Pazx or Atyeo? The Mafia could've easily left him alone and he would've been a lynch candidate soon enough due to his anti-town tendencies.
- You were the only one who insisted that the doctor reveal himself. Everyone else agreed that we didn't want to put the doc in the line of fire.
I agree that the best lynch today is to take out Hydro, but we really have to think about how to bring out the others
Yeah i assumed there was a doctor at first because of everything that happened. on night 1… but now I'm not so sure. The reasons for my change of tact are too important to discuss. But I absolutely do not want any discussion of a doctor play tonight. We must assume there isn't one and work around that basic fact.
We know that Pazx investigated on night 1. We don't know who, however.
Who's alive?
Alive:
JLo - Probably wasn't investigated but Pazx seems to trust him a lot.
Wooy - Based on the secrecy of who the "town" result was played with, I doubt it was Wooy. PAzx
Aerodrome -
Maribro - Given how distrustful then trustful of me he was at times, I don't think Pazx investigated me. Also given how loud I was
Barrydabusdriver -
Windkeeper0 -
HydroPimp - already confirmed anti town via investigation
Invisi - target for last night's investigation
Urisk - probably not investigated.
Which leaves 3 people that Pazx investigated on night 1. Pazx has been suspicious of Barry and Aero all game, leading me to believe that one of those two were investigated and he suspects them of possibly being a Godfather.
Lastly
Aerodrome said:
or maybe they got lucky and roleblocked him??????
It's not rocket science.
No.
I was roleblocked. We also can't forget that Pazx investigated Invisi and wound up dead.
02/25/2016 07:21:14
If there's a doctor in this game then you're lying, Maribro.
02/25/2016 07:22:31
02/25/2016 07:22:31
Aerodrome said:
If there's a doctor in this game then you're lying, Maribro.
Why do you think I'm so convinced that there isn't a doctor?
Aerodrome said:
It's not rocket science.
02/25/2016 07:23:31
BECAUSE 3 KILLS WENT THROUGH ON NIGHT 1 AND NONE OF THEM HAPPENED. Just because the doctor didn't agree with your scummy "reveal the doctor" play, it doesn't mean you can make up that a doctor doesn't exist. OMG StoP
02/25/2016 07:28:06
02/25/2016 07:28:06
Aerodrome said:
BECAUSE 3 KILLS WENT THROUGH ON NIGHT 1 AND NONE OF THEM HAPPENED.
We have a confirmed role blocker AND a confirmed 2 shot protection serial killer. it's not outside the realm of logic that these things interacted with each other in such a way that resulted in nobody dying night 1 without a doctor.
We also have reason to believe that Pazx was the most obvious choice for a protection and yet wound up dead. I have reason to believe that the Mafia know that there isn't a doctor in this game so anyone that claims there is could potentially be mafia.
Aerodrome said:
BECAUSE 3 KILLS WENT THROUGH ON NIGHT 1 AND NONE OF THEM HAPPENED. Just because the doctor didn't agree with your scummy "reveal the doctor" play, it doesn't mean you can make up that a doctor doesn't exist. OMG StoP
If there is a doctor, I'm glad he didn't reveal himself.
02/25/2016 07:30:45