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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. Usually the first is Night. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old game may give you an indication of how this game is played.

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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread.
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be. (I can tell the difference).
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there are players with equal votes, the lynchee is random.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread, and can no longer communicate privately if their role dictates they can.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.
Inactive players will be given notice after 72 hours. If this happens several times over the course of the game the player will be removed from the game.

I've got some interesting ideas for this one. Might take a while to write up so be patient :3
Capping this one at 15-20 players. Can start earlier if that number is not reached.
First phase will be DAY.

Alive:
JLo, Vanilla Townie
Wooy, Town Vigilante (non-consecutive)
Aerodrome, Mafia Godfather (one-shot investigation-immune, one-shot strongman)
Maribro, Town Jack-of-All-Trades (one-shot kill, one-shot protect, one-shot track)
Barrydabusdriver, Town Doctor
Windkeeper0, Town Absorber (limit one ability)
Invisi, Mafia Role-Blocker
Urisk, Town Back-Up (universal)

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Tracker, lynched day 1.
Deez, Vanilla Townie, lynched day 2, won posthumously.
cAKE, Vanilla Townie, killed night 2, won posthumously.
Atyeo, Vanilla Townie, killed night 2 won posthumously.
Corvid, Independent Serial Killer (2-shot kill-immune), lynched day 3.
Pazx, Town Cop, killed night 3, won posthumously.
LEF, Vanilla Townie, killed night 3, won posthumously.
HydroPimp, Mafia Goon (one-shot kill-immune), lynched day 4.

dean 02/26/2016 12:32:36

Maribro

191+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

Aerodrome said:
Maribro, do you think you were roleblocked the night prior?

If Urisk is telling the truth then it doesn't look like there's a role blocker in this game. Or at very least it's highly unlikely.

Invisi said:
Maribro - Has claimed a Jack of All Trades Role since day 2, conveniently none of which did anything. Also has come up with some suuuuper crazy theories, many of which would have favoured the mafia. Hydro turning out to be bulletproof means he's not 100% scum, but I feel like he's our best bet at the moment.

Didn't do anything? Bruh, it's pretty obvious my kill power was absorbed by Hydropimp's 1 shot kill immunity, my heal was not on the correct person (but if it was then I made a Godlike play) and my track was a "this person did nothing this night" on JLo.

Would have favoured the mafia? My Doc reveal was something that could have (looking back though probably wouldn't have LOL) worked at the time but with the current game state, I'm glad they didn't. My other crazy theory? Well, looks like it worked. I may as well come clean with what I was attempting yesterday. I was actually trying to convince the mafia that there wasn't a doc. That's why I didn't want to discuss the possibility of there being one. I wanted to force the mafia to be as predictable as possible and try and kill someone powerful, allowing the doc to easily and safely read this action and protect the right player. I have no idea if it worked or not but we're all still alive so maybe I just got lucky.

I'm the most pro town player left in the game and someone that the town cop deeply trusted. I am not "your best bet" for anything but everything I've claimed I am so far.

Invisi said:
Urisk - False claimed initially then immediately turned that around and claimed something else? Kinda suss, not sure what to make of it. If telling the truth he could be valuable, but I doubt the mafia would let him have free reign to investigate them at this stage of the game. Was most likely saved night 1 from the serial killer, but that doesn't rule him out of being mafia.

The false claim was very suspicious but Urisk has largely played pro town. Townies outnumber mafia 4:1 at this stage so if he's lying about who he suspects of being mafia then we can take him out next day. I have absolute faith in him as a townie though.

Invisi said:
JLo - If Maribro is telling the truth, then JLo did nothing night 1, and has since claimed vanilla townie. Even then, he could be a vanilla mafia who happened to do nothing night 1 (possibly godfather, since that's most likely what we have left, unlikely to be roleblocker). If Maribro's story falls through he can be grouped with the rest of us. Also was called out by Hydropimp, which could either be a mafia trying to cast doubt on his own, or he could be town. Really odd that he'd accuse of Serial Killer just as we killed Corvid though.

Hydropimp was just being scummy, there's no way there are two serial killers in this game. I'd say JLo is our best bet at a VT at this stage (which we don't have much left of).

Invisi said:
Wooy - Has claimed town vigilante, and either he's telling the truth or the mafia have double kill powers. He's the only one so far whose claims have been backed up by night actions, so he's probably the most trustworthy at the moment, but it doesn't rule out the possibility of the mafia having some weird double kill power that needs charging in some way that could possibly explain the double night deaths? I have no idea what I'm talking about here and it sounds super weird and convoluted, so Wooy is probably telling the truth.

That is possible but I don't think that's something we can really consider at this point. There's only 2 mafia left and for there to be a Godfather with a NK ability or a godfather and someone with a NK ability, that seems a bit much. I guess we will find out but at this stage he's innocent.

Invisi said:
Aero/Barry/Wind/Myself - Varying levels of activity in this thread, but no one in this group has anything going for or against them. The doctor is most likely somewhere in here.

In these four people lie the doctor, two mafia and a vanilla townie. Unless JLo is playing like a GOAT Godfather or Urisk/Wooy are lying incredibly well, I see no way for these guys to NOT contain the remaining mafia. Let's look at them one by one.

Aero - Has played in an interesting fashion. Kissing everyone's ass and never disliking anything really except my play last night. I'm very suspicious of him atm but I'd like to know who Urisk's positive finding is on.

Barry - Played similarly to the start of last game. Contributed very little but hasn't done anything fishy either.

Invisi - the so called MVP of last game should have had a massive target on his head but… hasn't? Still alive somehow and posting much less insightfully than last time.

Windkeeper - playing exactly like last game. Quiet but always seems to make good posts. I wouldn't rule him out of mafia but he's my most doubted for that title at this stage

(inb4 Urisk's investigation calls Windkeeper anti-town).

Anyway, this is where I see the game at today. I'm excited to see the results of Urisk's investigation.

02/26/2016 00:05:37

Urisk

91+ tourneys

Barry

Invisi

Windkeeper

I would like your statements from last night. And be very aware that I will know if you are lying.

02/26/2016 00:46:43

Wooy

14+ tourneys

Urisk said:
Barry

Invisi

Windkeeper

I would like your statements from last night. And be very aware that I will know if you are lying.

Why can't you just say who you investigated?

02/26/2016 01:28:30

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

He's either doing things in flavour or trying to gauge responses but he's doing a terrible job at both.

02/26/2016 01:38:39

Invisi

225+ tourneys

Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489

Maribro said:
Invisi - the so called MVP of last game should have had a massive target on his head but… hasn't? Still alive somehow and posting much less insightfully than last time.

Last game I had the benefit of being a confirmed townie, which unfortunately I do not have this game. Like I said, I'm still not sure why the mafia didn't target me on night 1 (just as I don't know why they didn't target other MVPs light Pazx), and recently they've had priority power roles to target.

Invisi said:
Urisk - False claimed initially then immediately turned that around and claimed something else? Kinda suss, not sure what to make of it. If telling the truth he could be valuable, but I doubt the mafia would let him have free reign to investigate them at this stage of the game. Was most likely saved night 1 from the serial killer, but that doesn't rule him out of being mafia.

I don't know who Urisk is going to say he investigated, but I'm already skeptical of the outcome. Thanks to Pazx's death, we know two things - there is a mafia roleblocker in the game, and the mafia know who the doctor is. The only way for this not to be the case is for the doctor to have made the most stupid play ever,and I'd like to give our doctor a bit more intellectual credit than that.

Last night's lack of deaths would indicate that the doctor was not roleblocked, and that the mafia attempted a kill on someone else (probably Wooy?) hoping that the doctor would protect someone else, but the doctor guessed correctly.

If they didn't roleblock the doctor, the only other person who has claimed to be a townmember with a night action is Urisk - who is therefore the obvious target for a mafia roleblock if telling the truth. Yet he claims to have an investigation result? And an anti-town one at that? Like, whichever of the four of us he points the finger at, at this point I'm inclined not to believe him.

Aerodrome said:
He's either doing things in flavour or trying to gauge responses but he's doing a terrible job at both.

That's a good point - inb4 Urisk sees me as a threat and decides that I'm the anti-town result. I'm onto you

Vote: Urisk

Just thinking I should start putting the pressure on where I feel it needs to go. Obviously he shouldn't be lynched yet, he still has stuff he needs to tell the town/

02/26/2016 02:13:14

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

Invisi, how are you so sure that the mafia knows who is the doctor?

02/26/2016 02:14:10

Invisi

225+ tourneys

Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489

I am assuming that, on night 3, the mafia roleblocked the doctor in order to kill Pazx. Unless our doctor is a complete idiot, he would've protected Pazx.

Even if it were a guess initially, the fact that it work confirms that the person they roleblocked is indeed the doctor.

02/26/2016 02:30:14

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

In that case, how come the doctor didn't die last night? Only reason I can think of is that the doctor protected himself

Oh wait nvm, disregard the post above

Oh wait actually, un-disregard my post

02/26/2016 02:55:11

Urisk

91+ tourneys

Invisi said:

Maribro said:
Invisi - the so called MVP of last game should have had a massive target on his head but… hasn't? Still alive somehow and posting much less insightfully than last time.

Last game I had the benefit of being a confirmed townie, which unfortunately I do not have this game. Like I said, I'm still not sure why the mafia didn't target me on night 1 (just as I don't know why they didn't target other MVPs light Pazx), and recently they've had priority power roles to target.

Invisi said:
Urisk - False claimed initially then immediately turned that around and claimed something else? Kinda suss, not sure what to make of it. If telling the truth he could be valuable, but I doubt the mafia would let him have free reign to investigate them at this stage of the game. Was most likely saved night 1 from the serial killer, but that doesn't rule him out of being mafia.

I don't know who Urisk is going to say he investigated, but I'm already skeptical of the outcome. Thanks to Pazx's death, we know two things - there is a mafia roleblocker in the game, and the mafia know who the doctor is. The only way for this not to be the case is for the doctor to have made the most stupid play ever,and I'd like to give our doctor a bit more intellectual credit than that.

Last night's lack of deaths would indicate that the doctor was not roleblocked, and that the mafia attempted a kill on someone else (probably Wooy?) hoping that the doctor would protect someone else, but the doctor guessed correctly.

If they didn't roleblock the doctor, the only other person who has claimed to be a townmember with a night action is Urisk - who is therefore the obvious target for a mafia roleblock if telling the truth. Yet he claims to have an investigation result? And an anti-town one at that? Like, whichever of the four of us he points the finger at, at this point I'm inclined not to believe him.

Aerodrome said:
He's either doing things in flavour or trying to gauge responses but he's doing a terrible job at both.

That's a good point - inb4 Urisk sees me as a threat and decides that I'm the anti-town result. I'm onto you
Vote: Urisk
Just thinking I should start putting the pressure on where I feel it needs to go. Obviously he shouldn't be lynched yet, he still has stuff he needs to tell the town/

Basically i waited for this. I knew that aero was the anti towns member but at this point invisi is just trying to throw shade on me for the sake of saving his own back. I was pretty sure he was the other mafia member and while i didnt investigate him last being able to put the pressure on someone else by making them nervous about the result should confirm them as mafia. With this in mind. Wooy could you please kill invisi tonight? He may have armour but he is our best bet and if hes alive in the morning we can still lynch him.

As for the investigation i mentioned before it was aero so.

Vote: Aerodrome

02/26/2016 05:10:04

Wooy

14+ tourneys

Urisk said:

Invisi said:

Maribro said:
Invisi - the so called MVP of last game should have had a massive target on his head but… hasn't? Still alive somehow and posting much less insightfully than last time.

Last game I had the benefit of being a confirmed townie, which unfortunately I do not have this game. Like I said, I'm still not sure why the mafia didn't target me on night 1 (just as I don't know why they didn't target other MVPs light Pazx), and recently they've had priority power roles to target.

Invisi said:
Urisk - False claimed initially then immediately turned that around and claimed something else? Kinda suss, not sure what to make of it. If telling the truth he could be valuable, but I doubt the mafia would let him have free reign to investigate them at this stage of the game. Was most likely saved night 1 from the serial killer, but that doesn't rule him out of being mafia.

I don't know who Urisk is going to say he investigated, but I'm already skeptical of the outcome. Thanks to Pazx's death, we know two things - there is a mafia roleblocker in the game, and the mafia know who the doctor is. The only way for this not to be the case is for the doctor to have made the most stupid play ever,and I'd like to give our doctor a bit more intellectual credit than that.

Last night's lack of deaths would indicate that the doctor was not roleblocked, and that the mafia attempted a kill on someone else (probably Wooy?) hoping that the doctor would protect someone else, but the doctor guessed correctly.

If they didn't roleblock the doctor, the only other person who has claimed to be a townmember with a night action is Urisk - who is therefore the obvious target for a mafia roleblock if telling the truth. Yet he claims to have an investigation result? And an anti-town one at that? Like, whichever of the four of us he points the finger at, at this point I'm inclined not to believe him.

Aerodrome said:
He's either doing things in flavour or trying to gauge responses but he's doing a terrible job at both.

That's a good point - inb4 Urisk sees me as a threat and decides that I'm the anti-town result. I'm onto you
Vote: Urisk
Just thinking I should start putting the pressure on where I feel it needs to go. Obviously he shouldn't be lynched yet, he still has stuff he needs to tell the town/

Basically i waited for this. I knew that aero was the anti towns member but at this point invisi is just trying to throw shade on me for the sake of saving his own back. I was pretty sure he was the other mafia member and while i didnt investigate him last being able to put the pressure on someone else by making them nervous about the result should confirm them as mafia. With this in mind. Wooy could you please kill invisi tonight? He may have armour but he is our best bet and if hes alive in the morning we can still lynch him.

As for the investigation i mentioned before it was aero so.

Vote: Aerodrome

Wow, this is quite a clever plan you carried out Urisk

Vote: Aerodrome

02/26/2016 05:35:36

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

I can explain this.

I wanted to keep this secret for multiple reasons, my role being known hurts the town a lot, but you've left me no choice but to reveal it.

Hello, I am Dark Pit, a Vengeful Townie. I have no active abilities, but rather two passive abilities. The first is Dark and Edgey. Because I am an adolescent, I feel the need to put on a bad boy facade, even though I am good at heart. Although my faction is pro-town, when targeted by a cops investigate for the first time, it will return an anti-town result.

My second passive ability is Dark Pit Staff, when killed by lynch or by a nightkill, I use my staff to return a fatal, protection bypassing shot to the last person who voted for me through lynch, or the person who night killed me, regardless of faction.

I've spent the whole game dropping "I'm the doctor" hints hoping the Mafia will kill me so I can return fire but apparently they're really dumb.

I'm on phone and getting my haircut, please don't lynch me untol I can answer any of your questions, if you lynch me and a townie is the last voter then we lose the game straight away

02/26/2016 06:01:34

Wooy

14+ tourneys

Aerodrome said:
I can explain this.
I wanted to keep this secret for multiple reasons, my role being known hurts the town a lot, but you've left me no choice but to reveal it.

Hello, I am Dark Pit, a Vengeful Townie. I have no active abilities, but rather two passive abilities. The first is Dark and Edgey. Because I am an adolescent, I feel the need to put on a bad boy facade, even though I am good at heart. Although my faction is pro-town, when targeted by a cops investigate for the first time, it will return an anti-town result.

My second passive ability is Dark Pit Staff, when killed by lynch or by a nightkill, I use my staff to return a fatal, protection bypassing shot to the last person who voted for me through lynch, or the person who night killed me, regardless of faction.

This sounds very suspicious. It conveniently gives you a reason you were found Anti-Town by Urisk and prevents people from Lynching you.

02/26/2016 06:01:51

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

I understand it sounds suspicious, but hey that was just the hand I was dealt.

If you lynch me today then unless the doctor protects against the mafia kill successfully then we lose.

That's why I'm bringing it out now because the probability of three townies dying tonight if I'm lynched is pretty high.

Going for my haircut now

02/26/2016 06:10:47

Windkeeper0

1+ tourneys

Wii U: Windkeeper0

Urisk said:
Barry

Invisi

Windkeeper

I would like your statements from last night. And be very aware that I will know if you are lying.

So are you asking for us to reveal our roles now? Are we assuming that the doctor has already been found out by this point?

I feel like it is probably true but I want to make sure I'm understanding this right.

02/26/2016 06:37:06

Urisk

91+ tourneys

Aerodrome said:
I understand it sounds suspicious, but hey that was just the hand I was dealt.
If you lynch me today then unless the doctor protects against the mafia kill successfully then we lose.
That's why I'm bringing it out now because the probability of three townies dying tonight if I'm lynched is pretty high.
Going for my haircut now

Thats fine. If you are truely pro town youll kill yourself and save us the trouble.

Windkeeper0 said:

Urisk said:
Barry

Invisi

Windkeeper

I would like your statements from last night. And be very aware that I will know if you are lying.
So are you asking for us to reveal our roles now? Are we assuming that the doctor has already been found out by this point?
I feel like it is probably true but I want to make sure I'm understanding this right.

No im not asking for role reveals. I was baiting a poor response like the one invisi gave me.

02/26/2016 06:38:22

Maribro

191+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

I'm willing to believe Aero. I know yesterday I was quite pressuring towards him, but I do feel his explanation is adequate.

I can entirely understand him wanting to keep his abilities secret. If Mafia were to NK him, then one of them would die. Now that they are aware that this will happen, they will not target him. Losing three townies is not an option.

On the other hand…

Vengeful roles aren't meant to claim. They let Mafia kill them or would (as Urisk suggested) do it themselves.

Balls in your court, Aerodrome.

The mafia almost certainly know who the Doc is by now. If they want to reveal themselves because they think they have information that may prove useful, then they will.

I'm not going to encourage or tell them to avoid it though.

02/26/2016 06:41:41

Urisk

91+ tourneys

Furhermore i dont trust invisi. Myself and wooy have already voted. Therefore since we dont care who else dies i would ask invisi to be the self sacrifice. Worst case we take out a townie and a very high case mafia. Wooy then has 2 of 2 targets remaining who are mafia if were wrong about invisi and aero. This brings us to 1 remaining mafia and 3 remaining players who we should easily be able to work out who is and isnt town.

02/26/2016 06:54:31

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

So out of the 4 possible investigation targets, one claimed vengeful townie and another one is looking mighty suspicious. I'm led to believe that the doctor is one of the two left. Barry/Wind, thoughts?

02/26/2016 07:17:36

Windkeeper0

1+ tourneys

Wii U: Windkeeper0

I am not going to confirm whether I am the doctor or not right now. I will however, reveal my role if a majority of the town agrees with me revealing it. The reason I'm doing this is, if I am the doctor I will be putting a target on myself for tonight and I will die. If I am not doctor then I might be giving the mafia enough information to find the real doctor as there have been 4 nights and they probably have very few people that they think could be the doctor at this point.
I'd also ask that we don't kill Aero until we have come to a conclusion on this play. I need to go soon but I'll be on later tonight.

For all we know the mafia could already know who the doctor is but there is still a chance that they don't, this is my reasoning.

02/26/2016 08:13:49

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

Windkeeper0 said:
I am not going to confirm whether I am the doctor or not right now. I will however, reveal my role if a majority of the town agrees with me revealing it. The reason I'm doing this is, if I am the doctor I will be putting a target on myself for tonight and I will die. If I am not doctor then I might be giving the mafia enough information to find the real doctor as there have been 4 nights and they probably have very few people that they think could be the doctor at this point.
I'd also ask that we don't kill Aero until we have come to a conclusion on this play. I need to go soon but I'll be on later tonight.

I have reasons to believe that the mafia already knows who the doctor is and they're formulating a play to get rid of them, seeing how much impact they have had throughout the whole game. But if you insist, at the time of this post, I personally am in favour of the doctor revealing themselves.

02/26/2016 08:15:05

Maribro

191+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

Maribro said:
The mafia almost certainly know who the Doc is by now. If they want to reveal themselves because they think they have information that may prove useful, then they will.

I'm not going to encourage or tell them to avoid it though.

I have already stated my thoughts on this.

02/26/2016 08:16:21

Urisk

91+ tourneys

Anti doctor reveal

02/26/2016 08:32:21

Aerodrome

96+ tourneys

I want to discuss this with all of you too but I'm still not home, ask me anything and I'll respond to the best of my ability. I know I shouldn't have revealed myself but if a non-mafia member is the final vote (even if I lynch myself) then we lose.

02/26/2016 08:36:07

Maribro

191+ tourneys

Wii U: Oceanblue44

Aerodrome said:
I want to discuss this with all of you too but I'm still not home, ask me anything and I'll respond to the best of my ability. I know I shouldn't have revealed myself but if a non-mafia member is the final vote (even if I lynch myself) then we lose.

We don't.

There's 2 mafia left. If you die and you take someone with you that's non mafia AND mafia kill the right person tonight then there's still three townies left and 2 mafia. We CAN win this no matter what. Unless you know there's three mafia left…

In which case you'd definitely have to be mafia

02/26/2016 08:39:07

JLo

27+ tourneys

Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

No LyLo pls

02/26/2016 08:40:39

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