So have we all agreed on th Day 1 Lynch? And we're voting for the most useless town member and if they turn out to be Mafia then that's a bonus?
If so, Urisk, Corvid, Laggy and Hydropimp are all candinates. From past experiences with Corvid I have know him to be extremely quiet and kept to himself and could just be a regular townie, but regardless he isn't doing anything. Laggy and Hydro really haven't said anything, and Urisk is chucking around votes.
02/19/2016 12:08:21
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!
Votes:
JLo (0)
Wooy (3) - JLo, Maribro, Aerodrome
Aerodrome (0)
cAKE (1) - Urisk
Deez (0)
Atyeo (0)
Maribro (0)
LEF (0)
Barrydabusdriver (0)
Pazx (0)
Corvid (0)
Windkeeper0 (0)
ThatLaggyPerson (2) - LEF, Wooy
HydroPimp (1) - Pazx
Invisi (0)
Urisk (0)
No lynch (0)
Not voted (9) - Deez, Atyeo, Barrydabusdriver, ThatLaggyPerson, Invisi, cAKE, Windkeeper0, HydroPimp, Corvid
02/19/2016 12:08:28
Votes:
JLo (0)
Wooy (3) - JLo, Maribro, Aerodrome
Aerodrome (0)
cAKE (1) - Urisk
Deez (0)
Atyeo (0)
Maribro (0)
LEF (0)
Barrydabusdriver (0)
Pazx (0)
Corvid (0)
Windkeeper0 (0)
ThatLaggyPerson (2) - LEF, Wooy
HydroPimp (1) - Pazx
Invisi (0)
Urisk (0)
No lynch (0)
Not voted (9) - Deez, Atyeo, Barrydabusdriver, ThatLaggyPerson, Invisi, cAKE, Windkeeper0, HydroPimp, Corvid
02/19/2016 12:08:28
VOTE: Corvid
02/19/2016 12:11:59
02/19/2016 12:11:59
I highly doubt that anyone's going to give away any information on day 1. I suppose we may as well hurry up with it.
Vote: Deez
02/19/2016 12:32:36
Vote: Deez
02/19/2016 12:32:36
Pazx said:there is only one way maribro could possibly know what he was implying, so i believe bringing attention to him was a poor move on your behalf. i guess i'm doing the same now, but if i ignored your post it would seem very scummy, so you put me in a difficult position.
Think about what you are saying, you are saying that if he has a special role, that he gets to know all the other (and how many) special roles there are in the game, do you really think he would have been given that knowledge?
Even if I'm wrong and he was given that knowledge, thats not the only way he could know, its also very possible that he simply made an assumption, which I think is the more likely of the two, and then other idiots are gonna read his assumption and think that its true and then we are working off of false information, we dont want to be doing that, so no, I dont think my pointing out him being stupid and telling everyone not to make assumptions is something you should be shunning.
Trying to make sure people arent making mistakes is not bringing anything to light, I really dont think that you could assume from what he said that he has a special role.
02/19/2016 12:32:53
cAKE said:
So have we all agreed on th Day 1 Lynch? And we're voting for the most useless town member and if they turn out to be Mafia then that's a bonus?
If so, Urisk, Corvid, Laggy and Hydropimp are all candinates. From past experiences with Corvid I have know him to be extremely quiet and kept to himself and could just be a regular townie, but regardless he isn't doing anything. Laggy and Hydro really haven't said anything, and Urisk is chucking around votes.
Barrythebusdriver also hasn't said too much.
02/19/2016 12:37:52
Pazx said:
the player with the biggest lack of content is hydropimp and he should be made to talk.
vote: hydropimp
lots of stuff to read. been busy. its the weekend now so i should be more active
02/19/2016 12:47:00
Wooy said:
cAKE said:
So have we all agreed on th Day 1 Lynch? And we're voting for the most useless town member and if they turn out to be Mafia then that's a bonus?
If so, Urisk, Corvid, Laggy and Hydropimp are all candinates. From past experiences with Corvid I have know him to be extremely quiet and kept to himself and could just be a regular townie, but regardless he isn't doing anything. Laggy and Hydro really haven't said anything, and Urisk is chucking around votes.
Barrythebusdriver also hasn't said too much.
Hm Barry was saying stuff constructive earlier yesterday, he's said more than you. I'm just ong pointing out the ones who have said very little to none.
02/19/2016 12:48:37
Atyeo said:
Pazx said:there is only one way maribro could possibly know what he was implying, so i believe bringing attention to him was a poor move on your behalf. i guess i'm doing the same now, but if i ignored your post it would seem very scummy, so you put me in a difficult position.
Think about what you are saying, you are saying that if he has a special role, that he gets to know all the other (and how many) special roles there are in the game, do you really think he would have been given that knowledge?
Even if I'm wrong and he was given that knowledge, thats not the only way he could know, its also very possible that he simply made an assumption, which I think is the more likely of the two, and then other idiots are gonna read his assumption and think that its true and then we are working off of false information, we dont want to be doing that, so no, I dont think my pointing out him being stupid and telling everyone not to make assumptions is something you should be shunning.
Trying to make sure people arent making mistakes is not bringing anything to light, I really dont think that you could assume from what he said that he has a special role.
I was making as educated an assumption as you did when you said there are more Mafia in this game because there's more people. Larger games have more special roles to keep the game interesting and can even introduce other roles like serial killers and lovers.
I don't know how many other special roles there are and I don't know what special roles there are in general, just that it is likely there are more.
02/19/2016 12:53:13
If you want to go by that logic than there are only more because there are more players, the % of players that are special should have stayed the same and thus there isn't 'more' special players than the last game and so 'we all have a lot of special roles' is something I would consider reaching.
Anyways we can argue this for another 2 pages, or we can all just agree to not make assumptions or jump to any crazy conclusions. damn its a pity deezVIC and deezQLD arent both in the game, dean would totally have made then lovers, he's not one to miss an opportunity like that
02/19/2016 12:59:35
Anyways we can argue this for another 2 pages, or we can all just agree to not make assumptions or jump to any crazy conclusions. damn its a pity deezVIC and deezQLD arent both in the game, dean would totally have made then lovers, he's not one to miss an opportunity like that
02/19/2016 12:59:35
First 3 Votes were everyone who had not posted by the time I had.
"I'm not a townie" is an annoying play and nothing proves Sweet fuck all.
02/19/2016 13:02:51
"I'm not a townie" is an annoying play and nothing proves Sweet fuck all.
02/19/2016 13:02:51
Urisk said:
First 3 Votes were everyone who had not posted by the time I had.
"I'm not a townie" is an annoying play and nothing proves Sweet fuck all.
i dunno, if a mafioso said "i'm not a townie" i'd be pretty pleased
02/19/2016 21:22:31
Atyeo said:Ill try and get DeezQLD into the next game :)
damn its a pity deezVIC and deezQLD arent both in the game, dean would totally have made then lovers, he's not one to miss an opportunity like that
02/19/2016 21:36:15
He speaks.
Alright, but the game started a few hours ago and you already make three votes without any explanations, even double posting instead of just saying "eg we should be suspicious of X, y and z bc they haven't posted yet."
First of all, reiterating Pazx's point, I think you got your words stuffed up there a bit. Was it supposed to be "I'm not Mafia"? Or "I'm a townie"?
The point of the post was my opinion the no lynch, giving my villagers an insight in how to a scum thinks.
02/19/2016 21:48:53
Urisk said:
First 3 Votes were everyone who had not posted by the time I had.
Alright, but the game started a few hours ago and you already make three votes without any explanations, even double posting instead of just saying "eg we should be suspicious of X, y and z bc they haven't posted yet."
"I'm not a townie" is an annoying play and nothing proves Sweet fuck all.
First of all, reiterating Pazx's point, I think you got your words stuffed up there a bit. Was it supposed to be "I'm not Mafia"? Or "I'm a townie"?
The point of the post was my opinion the no lynch, giving my villagers an insight in how to a scum thinks.
02/19/2016 21:48:53
I'd like to hear more from Corvid he hasn't added anything to the chat apart from voting and unvoting.
Vote:Corvid
02/20/2016 00:58:16
Vote:Corvid
02/20/2016 00:58:16
Had to drop the comment quickly cause shitashi was doing site changes. Yeah i did mean im not a mafia.
Also re cAKE your play of reiterating im not mafia im a townie is super not beneficial. Either you are mafia and you're trying to use pseudo statistics to subtely influence people into believing you arent mafia. (He has just as much chance of being mafia now as anyone else does dont let previous games fool you). This format is super common for trying to throw off new less experienced players into believing you arent mafia.
Now we get 2 results from this.
Cake is mafia and as such we lynch him.
Cake is not mafia and the mafia probably kills him for knowing to much.
The 2nd state is not one that I would willingly risk outing myself for even though I have now also put myself into a "position of knowledge". As such I would like to request the town gaurd or doctor to save me tonight if I am to survive.
We should be making a day 1 lynch as it improves our chances of guessing mafia moving forward as atyeo previoulst stated.
I also believe there is about 4 mafia possibly 5. 5 means town have 3 miss guesses before losing and 4 mafia means town has 4. Dean may have put 6 but with so many newer players this would be a very harsh game.
02/20/2016 01:10:18
Also re cAKE your play of reiterating im not mafia im a townie is super not beneficial. Either you are mafia and you're trying to use pseudo statistics to subtely influence people into believing you arent mafia. (He has just as much chance of being mafia now as anyone else does dont let previous games fool you). This format is super common for trying to throw off new less experienced players into believing you arent mafia.
Now we get 2 results from this.
Cake is mafia and as such we lynch him.
Cake is not mafia and the mafia probably kills him for knowing to much.
The 2nd state is not one that I would willingly risk outing myself for even though I have now also put myself into a "position of knowledge". As such I would like to request the town gaurd or doctor to save me tonight if I am to survive.
We should be making a day 1 lynch as it improves our chances of guessing mafia moving forward as atyeo previoulst stated.
I also believe there is about 4 mafia possibly 5. 5 means town have 3 miss guesses before losing and 4 mafia means town has 4. Dean may have put 6 but with so many newer players this would be a very harsh game.
02/20/2016 01:10:18
does anybody else think it's strange that the single most annoying/active shitposter on this site (and reddit, please stop posting, your karma should be in the negative thousands) who was incredibly excited about this game of mafia has entirely shut up shop (although only in this thread, they're active elsewhere) since the game has begun?
i believe the vic ranbat is today, so maybe for now we should focus our attention on somebody who is very clearly lurking (ps. lurking is anti-town, stop that) instead of corvid/hydropimp ebwop: im suggesting corvid and hydropimp (as well as jlo+deez) are potentially going to be busy for most of the day, not to let them off the hook entirely
02/20/2016 01:33:18
i believe the vic ranbat is today, so maybe for now we should focus our attention on somebody who is very clearly lurking (ps. lurking is anti-town, stop that) instead of corvid/hydropimp ebwop: im suggesting corvid and hydropimp (as well as jlo+deez) are potentially going to be busy for most of the day, not to let them off the hook entirely
02/20/2016 01:33:18
He's probably scared that he'll get lynched day 1 for being a douchebag to me ahuhuhu
02/20/2016 01:52:19
02/20/2016 01:52:19
yeah, I've played games similar to this and a change in behavior and attitude is usually indicative of being a bad guy, however, since we all gave him shit for being a shit poster just before the game started, he might have taken the hint that we'd kill him just for being himself and decided to try lay low, doesn't nessacarily mean he is a mafia. We could just vote him anyway though rofl.
Also urisk I dont think stating super obvious stuff puts you in a 'position of knowledge', if I were a mafia I dont think I'd feel like you have to die early.
If I were a mafia I'd probably try and kill the most important player from last game, invisi. I'm sure someone like PAZX will try and grief me for pointing this out because he'll think giving advice to the mafia is bad, but the mafia would have to be pretty fucking dumb to not have already had that idea so I dont think pointing it out helps the mafia at all, it does help the townies though because we now know who to PROTECT.
SO, if there is a doctor in this game, since you really have nothing else to go on anyway, you should try and save invisi tonight and all nights unless a better play comes up.
Invisi hasn't been leading the discussion like last game though, which means there is a possibility he might be a mafia.
02/20/2016 02:06:15
Also urisk I dont think stating super obvious stuff puts you in a 'position of knowledge', if I were a mafia I dont think I'd feel like you have to die early.
If I were a mafia I'd probably try and kill the most important player from last game, invisi. I'm sure someone like PAZX will try and grief me for pointing this out because he'll think giving advice to the mafia is bad, but the mafia would have to be pretty fucking dumb to not have already had that idea so I dont think pointing it out helps the mafia at all, it does help the townies though because we now know who to PROTECT.
SO, if there is a doctor in this game, since you really have nothing else to go on anyway, you should try and save invisi tonight and all nights unless a better play comes up.
Invisi hasn't been leading the discussion like last game though, which means there is a possibility he might be a mafia.
02/20/2016 02:06:15
Positions of knowledge go to people who are the most accurate/important. You are correct that invisi having played well in the previous game outs himself and this could be a good play to kill him if he is mafia/we may need to protect him if hes not.
Ive played a lot of mafia/werewolf so my position of knowledge stems from metagame analysis not activity within this group explicitly.
From this thread and i havent done any reading of the previous one i would say positions go to ateyo cake invisi. I was trying to say as little as possible in order to benefit from my apparently lack of knowledge.
This gives mafia 1-4 targets if im generous and include myself at this stage. The next plan would be to rank these players in terms of actual contributions as opposed to perceived information like youve done with invisi.
To do so would give insight into who may or may not be mafia within that group of 4 and also see how the mafia meta game.
02/20/2016 02:18:12
Ive played a lot of mafia/werewolf so my position of knowledge stems from metagame analysis not activity within this group explicitly.
From this thread and i havent done any reading of the previous one i would say positions go to ateyo cake invisi. I was trying to say as little as possible in order to benefit from my apparently lack of knowledge.
This gives mafia 1-4 targets if im generous and include myself at this stage. The next plan would be to rank these players in terms of actual contributions as opposed to perceived information like youve done with invisi.
To do so would give insight into who may or may not be mafia within that group of 4 and also see how the mafia meta game.
02/20/2016 02:18:12
your meta analysis hasn't helped yet though
I dont have a position of knowledge I've just been saying things that arent stupid.
02/20/2016 02:22:03
I dont have a position of knowledge I've just been saying things that arent stupid.
02/20/2016 02:22:03
Yeah I agree with Luke especially on Invisi. He won the game for town last time + he's pretty good at the game in general which makes him a prime Mafia target.
I think at this point potentially good lynch candidates would be Corvid, Wooy, cAKE, LEF and ThatLaggyPerson. My vote is still on Corvid atm.
02/20/2016 02:26:26
I think at this point potentially good lynch candidates would be Corvid, Wooy, cAKE, LEF and ThatLaggyPerson. My vote is still on Corvid atm.
02/20/2016 02:26:26
Its day 1 we dont really have a lot to go off of except for meta game knowledge since i havent played with this group before i dont know where you're at in terms of meta progression and cant provide insight as to who is or isnt suspicious. This is all meta information from my own previous games.
And hey if the mafia dont want to kill me for it then fine. I have no risk on my back from either side and im happy with that. Though im not about to get lax about it when anyone could die. Can anyone care to explain why corvid? As i have said no previous knowledge about this group.
02/20/2016 02:29:28
And hey if the mafia dont want to kill me for it then fine. I have no risk on my back from either side and im happy with that. Though im not about to get lax about it when anyone could die. Can anyone care to explain why corvid? As i have said no previous knowledge about this group.
02/20/2016 02:29:28
Atyeo said:
yeah, I've played games similar to this and a change in behavior and attitude is usually indicative of being a bad guy, however, since we all gave him shit for being a shit poster just before the game started, he might have taken the hint that we'd kill him just for being himself and decided to try lay low, doesn't nessacarily mean he is a mafia. We could just vote him anyway though rofl.
Also urisk I dont think stating super obvious stuff puts you in a 'position of knowledge', if I were a mafia I dont think I'd feel like you have to die early.
If I were a mafia I'd probably try and kill the most important player from last game, invisi. I'm sure someone like PAZX will try and grief me for pointing this out because he'll think giving advice to the mafia is bad, but the mafia would have to be pretty fucking dumb to not have already had that idea so I dont think pointing it out helps the mafia at all, it does help the townies though because we now know who to PROTECT.
SO, if there is a doctor in this game, since you really have nothing else to go on anyway, you should try and save invisi tonight and all nights unless a better play comes up.
Invisi hasn't been leading the discussion like last game though, which means there is a possibility he might be a mafia.
Well, I wasn't going to paint a target on myself, but I suppose it's a bit late for that now.
By the way, the fact that I led the discussion last game was due to fortunate circumstances (Barry's death confirming me as 100% town). Before that, I decided to lead off a hunch (which turned out to be wrong anyway), but was relatively quiet before that. I'm pretty sure I've already said more of substance this game than I did in the entire first half of last game.
02/20/2016 02:32:43
Corvid when pressured made some really terrible decisions last game and he's acting the same this game.... He's contributed nothing so far other than random votes for.
02/20/2016 02:33:03
02/20/2016 02:33:03