Hey Aerodrome, I'm not exactly a beginner (lower intermediate prolly) but I'm really looking to improve my game and take it to a higher level. Can I sign up to your smash tutoring please?
01/13/2015 09:57:43
@Maribro
There's not much you can do except slowly approach and powershield the projectiles thrown your way. Unfortunately Pacman's approach options aren't stellar without his fruit, and if it's been stolen then...
Ledge options 90% of the time is just standard get up. The other 10% is roll or jump. You don't really have options in this game on the ledge.
As for things you were doing right, umm, I guess your fruit usage was pretty good. I don't really remember. We'll have to play again sometime.
@JLo Alright, add me and lets organise a time to play!
01/13/2015 11:24:27
There's not much you can do except slowly approach and powershield the projectiles thrown your way. Unfortunately Pacman's approach options aren't stellar without his fruit, and if it's been stolen then...
Ledge options 90% of the time is just standard get up. The other 10% is roll or jump. You don't really have options in this game on the ledge.
As for things you were doing right, umm, I guess your fruit usage was pretty good. I don't really remember. We'll have to play again sometime.
@JLo Alright, add me and lets organise a time to play!
01/13/2015 11:24:27
Sweet! I'm free most nights from 8pm onwards
01/13/2015 11:57:48
01/13/2015 11:57:48
No problem, keep in mind though that if you're beating Boozer quite handily then you'll probably beat me quite handily, so I'm not entirely sure what I'll find but I'll try my best! @Mat7772 you around today?
01/13/2015 23:30:32
01/13/2015 23:30:32
SORRY I JUST GET UP TOO LATE
I'm ready now
01/14/2015 01:17:55
I'm ready now
01/14/2015 01:17:55
mat7772 said:
SORRY I JUST GET UP TOO LATE
I'm ready now
tsk tsk, first day of school and late already?
01/14/2015 01:20:52
Alright I'm coming online now.
01/14/2015 01:29:52
01/14/2015 01:29:52
Ok i just gotta do dishes first (10 mins at the most)
01/14/2015 01:31:52
01/14/2015 01:31:52
Go for it. Join me when you're ready.
01/14/2015 01:32:35
01/14/2015 01:32:35
Ok lets go :D
01/14/2015 01:39:03
01/14/2015 01:39:03
I have damage ratio on half LOL sorry
01/14/2015 01:41:50
01/14/2015 01:41:50
What's wrong aero? :P Oh all good XD AERO WHY DO YOU GET THE SETTINGS WRONG XD
01/14/2015 01:47:19
01/14/2015 01:47:19
Why is damage ratio on half still Rejoin the room imo Hopefully this fixes it
01/14/2015 01:49:02
01/14/2015 01:49:02
Sorry for that second stock on battlefield I didn't mean to springboard you D: Wait aero are you still playing lol
01/14/2015 02:38:38
01/14/2015 02:38:38
Last game
01/14/2015 02:39:33
01/14/2015 02:39:33
My wii fit trainer is usually better than that
Mainly because I don't get hit by every single side B you do
01/14/2015 02:44:14
Mainly because I don't get hit by every single side B you do
01/14/2015 02:44:14
Ok @mat7772, a couple of things:
Rolling: imo your biggest problem I noticed was that you would roll and roll and roll and roll and roll. Your main approach options seemed to be roll > dsmash, roll > grab and occasionally roll > dtilt. This doesn't work. I was trying to punish it personally but I was struggling to, but that doesn't make it a viable option. If this was offline, I would have punished most of them. People here, especially higher level players like Jezmo, V, and Shitashi will predict and punish with moves like Diddy/Villager/Megaman Fsmash which WILL KO you at ludicrously low percents because you're playing Rosalina, one of the lightest characters in the game.
Recovery/Ledges: Your recovery was ok. You probably need to practise it a bit, since Rosalina's recovery is super weird. There is a way to go vertical by using up B, then during the start up flick the stick into the opposite direction. You'll go straight up.
Regarding ledges you have this terrible tendency to fall off them and try to fair me. Like I've said to many in the past, this generally does not work very well. I killed you off the ledge so many times because you either sat there and your invincibility ran out, or tried to challenge me on the ledge where I just shieldgrabbed you or usmashed you.
Footsies: I noticed that you have this habit of trying to challenge some moves with others. I think you tried to dash attack me while I was using Flare Blitz at least 10 times. Sometimes you just have to shield, and if you can't punish something don't try to. It's better to not go for a risky punish because if you whiff, you'll get punished for it also.
Rosalina specific, you play her decently on stage although your strings are quite predictable. When I was above you, the only thing you do is follow with uair, and if you're that predictable, then people will air dodge/beat it out with counters or super armor.
Maybe use nair a bit more and Luma Shot a bit less (It's not a great move), and try to keep Luma safe, losing Luma hurts your onstage game so much.
You can't commit to things like that vs Charizard or you die.
01/14/2015 02:59:00
Rolling: imo your biggest problem I noticed was that you would roll and roll and roll and roll and roll. Your main approach options seemed to be roll > dsmash, roll > grab and occasionally roll > dtilt. This doesn't work. I was trying to punish it personally but I was struggling to, but that doesn't make it a viable option. If this was offline, I would have punished most of them. People here, especially higher level players like Jezmo, V, and Shitashi will predict and punish with moves like Diddy/Villager/Megaman Fsmash which WILL KO you at ludicrously low percents because you're playing Rosalina, one of the lightest characters in the game.
Recovery/Ledges: Your recovery was ok. You probably need to practise it a bit, since Rosalina's recovery is super weird. There is a way to go vertical by using up B, then during the start up flick the stick into the opposite direction. You'll go straight up.
Regarding ledges you have this terrible tendency to fall off them and try to fair me. Like I've said to many in the past, this generally does not work very well. I killed you off the ledge so many times because you either sat there and your invincibility ran out, or tried to challenge me on the ledge where I just shieldgrabbed you or usmashed you.
Footsies: I noticed that you have this habit of trying to challenge some moves with others. I think you tried to dash attack me while I was using Flare Blitz at least 10 times. Sometimes you just have to shield, and if you can't punish something don't try to. It's better to not go for a risky punish because if you whiff, you'll get punished for it also.
Rosalina specific, you play her decently on stage although your strings are quite predictable. When I was above you, the only thing you do is follow with uair, and if you're that predictable, then people will air dodge/beat it out with counters or super armor.
Maybe use nair a bit more and Luma Shot a bit less (It's not a great move), and try to keep Luma safe, losing Luma hurts your onstage game so much.
mat7772 said:Yeah you kept rolling into them or using Side B/Neutral B.
My wii fit trainer is usually better than that
Mainly because I don't get hit by every single side B you do
You can't commit to things like that vs Charizard or you die.
01/14/2015 02:59:00
Yes my rolling thing is horrible. I do it much less than when I first got the game though. Do you think I need to shield more, spotdodge more, or just scrap the heaps of rolling altogether and not worry about anything? Also I have played V and she was just punishing every move I did so I understand xD
Ok, will take the fair thing into mind. That didn't work haha. Sometimes I would wait there for you to finish your d-smash and then I would either jump or roll past you.
And half of the time I was just being a derp with flair bits. I felt really threatened by it because the fact that luma has no shield and that if you hit me Luma is basically gone. That being said I have no idea why I was doing that, I think I was just being an idiot.
Playing your Rosalina the thing that stands out to me is nair. I thought it was pretty crap, but it's actually pretty good and I will incorporate it into my game as time goes by. And I like to use luma shot to space Luma out and put some pressure onto the opponent by kind of taking away some space. I just don't see the point if you basically have 2 characters in one but you don't utilise one of the characters to its fullest potential.
Thanks for the tips :)
01/14/2015 03:17:58
Ok, will take the fair thing into mind. That didn't work haha. Sometimes I would wait there for you to finish your d-smash and then I would either jump or roll past you.
And half of the time I was just being a derp with flair bits. I felt really threatened by it because the fact that luma has no shield and that if you hit me Luma is basically gone. That being said I have no idea why I was doing that, I think I was just being an idiot.
Playing your Rosalina the thing that stands out to me is nair. I thought it was pretty crap, but it's actually pretty good and I will incorporate it into my game as time goes by. And I like to use luma shot to space Luma out and put some pressure onto the opponent by kind of taking away some space. I just don't see the point if you basically have 2 characters in one but you don't utilise one of the characters to its fullest potential.
Thanks for the tips :)
01/14/2015 03:17:58
Your options are entire dependent on what's happening at the time. You can use rolls but you need to have a good balance between rolling, spotdodging and shielding or else you'll get predicted and hurt.
Rosalina nair is her best aerial and one of the best aerials in the game. It beats so many things it's not funny. Short hop it, full hop it, RAR it, it was nerfed in 1.0.4 for a reason.
01/14/2015 04:14:30
Rosalina nair is her best aerial and one of the best aerials in the game. It beats so many things it's not funny. Short hop it, full hop it, RAR it, it was nerfed in 1.0.4 for a reason.
01/14/2015 04:14:30
Oh I never knew that o.o damn. I will use it more now
01/14/2015 05:18:31
01/14/2015 05:18:31
@JLo
Tomorrow at 8 PM your time good?
01/14/2015 06:59:04
Tomorrow at 8 PM your time good?
01/14/2015 06:59:04
Aerodrome said:
@JLo
Tomorrow at 8 PM your time good?
Sounds good. I'll see you then
01/14/2015 08:42:36
never mind
01/15/2015 07:27:24
01/15/2015 07:27:24
What's wrong?
By the way guys, you're all more than welcome to sign up again once you feel like you've fixed your habits/problems.
Sometimes habits are replaced with other habits. So it's good to have someone reevaluate your gameplan.
01/15/2015 08:00:20
By the way guys, you're all more than welcome to sign up again once you feel like you've fixed your habits/problems.
Sometimes habits are replaced with other habits. So it's good to have someone reevaluate your gameplan.
01/15/2015 08:00:20
Actually I was gonna ask for another session but then I thought it may have been a bit too early for that. I guess I'll give it another shot with rosa. I'm still rolling and sometimes you'll be able to see it, but I think I do it much less now.
01/15/2015 08:50:44
01/15/2015 08:50:44