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Aerodrome's Guidance - Smash Tutoring from Beginner to Intermediate Levels!

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  3. Aerodrome's Guidance - Smash Tutoring from Beginner to Intermediate Levels!
I've been thinking about doing something like this for a while. Basically what I'm offering is a way for newcomers to the competitive scene to learn the ins and outs of their respective characters and Smash 4 in general.

For the moment I'm focusing mostly on newer players, to help them with:

- Basic to intermediate gameplay advice
- Basic character specific advice

Although this is directed at newer players, more experienced players are more than welcome to play with me, although I think there will be less of a chance that I will be either willing or even able to point out holes in your gameplay.

So basically how this works is that you tell me who you main, and we organize a time to play some Wi-Fi. If you play a character I can play effectively, then I will play that character against you if you want, to which I highly recommend that you save replays and watch how I play the character and pick tips up from that.

After the Wi-Fi session, I'll let you know of the biggest flaws in your gameplay that I saw for you to work on. Fixing these will improve your gameplay immensely.

So, let's go!
Aerodrome 10 years ago
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EmeryQueenslandNess
11+ tourneys
Can I get a irl session?
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
I guess so.

See you on the 25th!
10 years ago
EmeryQueenslandNess
11+ tourneys
What's on the 25thRandom
10 years ago
RedWestern AustraliaKing Dedede
9+ tourneys
Wii U: Redmask
3DS: 4768-7478-0198
Church if you're a christian kappa
10 years ago
ArbyQueenslandYoshi
60+ tourneys
Wii U: Arbitation
If you're doing this for free you should make any reports publicly available.

There are a lot of people who like to discuss with a certain "reflective" theory but not many people who write up their ideas and comments on more of a specific / situational basis (like the kind of input you'd get from watching an active streamer).

Just an idea!
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Arby said:
If you're doing this for free you should make any reports publicly available.

There are a lot of people who like to discuss with a certain "reflective" theory but not many people who write up their ideas and comments on more of a specific / situational basis (like the kind of input you'd get from watching an active streamer).

Just an idea!
Yeah of course, all my advice will be given in this thread for others to read.

I'm pretty excited about this, I can't wait to play Omta today, Maribro tomorrow and mat7772 on Wednesday.
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Hey Aero, how is 10:30/11am WA time for you tomorrow?
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Maribro said:
Hey Aero, how is 10:30/11am WA time for you tomorrow?
That's good for me
Omta I'll be on in 10 mins?
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Aerodrome said:
Maribro said:
Hey Aero, how is 10:30/11am WA time for you tomorrow?
That's good for me
Omta I'll be on in 10 mins?


I hope you are ready for a lot of things to say about my play because I have just been completely dismembered by V
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
V is one of Melbourne's top players so don't let it get you down too much.
10 years ago
OmtaQueenslandDonkey Kong
82+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6783-8486-2105
I'm good to go, got a room open. Any preference to stock count?
10 years ago
KarnuQueenslandKing Dedede
48+ tourneys
Wii U: KarnuSilver
3DS: 3952-7040-9841
I don't think you ever liked how I play so am I eligible?
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Omta said:
I'm good to go, got a room open. Any preference to stock count?
Three preferred.

Switching game on now.
10 years ago
OmtaQueenslandDonkey Kong
82+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6783-8486-2105
Thanks Aero, I look forward to hearing about all my flaws. Don't go gentle or anything, I know I'm shit.
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Alright Omta here's a few things I picked up on:

Recovery: Ok this one is something that you will learn as you play more but you're screwing up a lot of your recoveries by either missing entirely or overshooting the ledge. I can't give you any specific advice for this because I don't play DK, but the decision to recover high or low should be dependent on where you opponent is. If your opponent is a stage away, you can recover how you like, but if they're close, you NEED to sweetspot the ledge.

Staying on the ledge too long: Once your invincibility is up you need to be looking to move off the ledge or else you will die. I saw you learning this in the Charizard vs DK match, where I almost got numerous fsmashes on you. It also happened on the last stock of Halberd but I doubt you expected that.

Side B: Don't use it, it's bad. You kept getting punished for hitting me with it.

OoS options: I noticed you were struggling to hit me OoS against some very punishable moves, one move that DK has that's VERY good OoS is up b, you used it sometimes randomly but not out of shield. It's a VERY strong punish and you should be looking to incorporate it into your gameplay!

Slight predictability in your attack patterns: One thing I noticed is that you go for the same juggles every single time. While I was playing Lucina and Charizard, I used options like Rock Smash, and Counter to punish these because I could see it coming from a mile away. If I wasn't using someone with a Counter, I just air dodged for free.

Ledge Options: You mustn't jump off the ledge and try to attack me with aerials, this will get you fsmashed 90% of the time because you're DK and Side B is terrible and Fair is terrible at what you're trying to make the move do.

DK specific stuff, I think you should be using nair more. You have a fairly good grasp of his on stage game and use his ground moves fairly effectively. I was quite surprised, at how strong your onstage game was in comparison to your offstage game.
10 years ago
OmtaQueenslandDonkey Kong
82+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6783-8486-2105
Sweet thanks for the advice. My recovering was so bad for most of that, I just felt like no matter what I tried you had it covered on reaction.

And that Bowser Bomb kill on the ledge was godlike 0_0
10 years ago
SeracainVictoriaSnake
9+ tourneys
Wii U: boudag
3DS: 4399-0101-5784
Hmm, I'd love critical feedback, but I doubt I meet the criteria.

10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Omta said:
Sweet thanks for the advice. My recovering was so bad for most of that, I just felt like no matter what I tried you had it covered on reaction.

And that Bowser Bomb kill on the ledge was godlike 0_0
No worries, fix your recovery issues and you'll be a fairly strong player imo.

The Bowser Bomb was just me predicting an overshoot from DK's relatively mediocre recovery.

Seracain said:
Hmm, I'd love critical feedback, but I doubt I meet the criteria.
You're more than welcome to join. But the amount of feedback I give is dependent on how good or bad you are. Basically if I can't play on the same level that you play, there's increasingly less of a chance that I'll be able to identify and expose flaws in your gameplay.
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Pretty keen for my lesson tomorrow, Aero. Excited to improve my game so I can play better against you guys.
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
In about 10 mins Maribro?

I was meant to play Jett but he disappeared into For Glory.

Edit: Oh, 10:30, 30 mins then
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Hey Aero I am ready when you are

I will open a room, join when you are available.
Can we please just forget that SD in the Pac Mirror ever happened >_<
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Small write-up inc.
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Good games dude, that was fun thanks
10 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Landing in front of me: This is a fairly big one, but I've noticed that when you run out of stage room or get launched you land in front of my a lot. You really can't do this since it will get you killed or you'll take 15%+ from either a grab or smash attack. When you've run out of room on the stage, unless you can bait something with a jump or projectile, you need to go for the ledge.

Recovery: Not as big as the others, but I noticed sometimes you don't sweetspot the ledge. This is important, because otherwise you get Bowser fsmashed and die.

Being Camped: This one is HUGE, you need to learn some safe approach options when people steal your fruit. The Sheik vs Pac-man game was a prime example. At one point I thought you were about to afk or something, but I think you were just really lost when I took your fruit and kept it.

In this situation, Needles, Ftilt, Fish and Vanish beat all of your options. You want to look for an opportunity to get me off stage or otherwise force me to drop the fruit. That game was a really easy win for me if I just kept camping. I think you understood the lesson though after a few minutes so I went back to playing like normal and not like a gaffot.

Staying on ledges too long: Another big one, but you need to look to get off ledges when your invincibility runs out. Prime example, the game I three stocked you in as Bowser vs Pac-man, I dedicated that match primarily to punishing your recovery attempts and your incessant need to sit on ledges. All 3 of your KOs were on ledges. You started to learn but became predictable again, so it was only a matter of time before I started punishing your ledge rolls too.
10 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Yeah recovering is something Im struggling at doing in general at the moment, whether it being killing myself in a really dumb way, not sweetspotting the ledge, going too far and landing right in front of people, its all been pretty bad in general lately.

What would you recommend for dealing with camping? Its something I struggle with in A LOT of matchups like Ness, Villager, the Links, etc. and I often lose matches just because I have no idea what the hell I am meant to do. I honestly dont see Pac having any safe and non choreographed approach options tbh so any input would be appreciated.

With ledges, I again dont see what options I have because every time I try something I die or get punished. Im usually trying to bait something out but you can just sit there and shield and anything I do from the ledge will get me punished. Again, any recommendations because Im seriously struggling to see what I can do.

Finally, anything I do well?

Thanks for all the input man, I will look at working on my game before the next time we play.
10 years ago
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