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Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw

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  3. Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY PARAPHRASE your abilities, copy-paste from role PM is not allowed
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be.
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread. If a dead player had a role that let them communicate privately, they are to cease doing that.
9. Character claiming is allowed.
We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Days have a deadline of one weeks. Nights have a deadline of 48 hours.
Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 48 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond.
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With Yooka-Laylee coming out soon we decided to make a themed game of where it all started, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie!

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Survived:
Maribro, Vanilla Townie
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie
BattleDolphin, Vanilla Townie
Ghostbone, Mafia Rolecop

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Backup, lynched Day 1.
Invisi, Town Mason, killed Night 1.
Windkeeper0, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
cAKE, Town Gunsmith, lynched Day 2.
HydroPimp, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Aerodrome, Town Watcher, killed Night 3.
JLo, Town Courier, lynched Day 4.
Bijou, Town Mason, killed Night 4.
HydroPimp (replacing Extra), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, lynched Day 5.
MrL, Odd-night Doctor, killed Night 5.

Notes:
HydroPimp replaced Extra Day 3.
Rhyno 03/22/2017 21:08:26
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GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
MrL is odd night doctor. His watcher claim is very strange and I didn't really know how to respond to it immediately.

Also hi I'm town rolecop. I'm fairly safe to claim at this point because obviously doctor is a higher priority and watcher is probably also higher priority for mafia to kill because i can't tell the difference between a vanilla townie and mafia goon. (or mafia doctor/town doctor which might be the case right now??)
Though I assume he just didn't want to claim doctor cos then he dies right away.

Also I find it amusing that both rolecop/gunsmith won't get any special result for targeting SK, hopefully Aero can figure that one out?
03/06/2017 07:42:44
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
What is even happening?

Vote: Unvote
What character are you by the way Ghost?
03/06/2017 07:52:39
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Cheato, apparently i use cheat magic to discern people's roles
03/06/2017 08:14:20
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Sounds legit. Who did you check on the other night?
03/06/2017 08:16:53
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Maribro

I got the "vanilla" result
03/06/2017 08:20:10
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
424+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
So you're saying he, as odd night doc, claimed watcher (which is just as big a target for the Mafia imo) and then claimed that I targeted windkeeper with no actual evidence at all.. I'd think Mafia doctor, but like, Mafia doctor!? Is that a thing? But if not then why would a townsperson do it? Why would a town doctor "out" himself in return for lynching a townie who you have no actual evidence against? Blowing my mind idek

Or just ghost is also totally lying and is in cahoots with MrL which is a possibility for sure I suppose, they both never voted for me and are currently the only people voting for Maribro still but idk
There's too many possibilities with who is bs'ing jeez
Oh more messages
Ghostbone said:
Maribro

I got the "vanilla" result

If you got vanilla then why were you still so adamant on lynching Maribro earlier today?
03/06/2017 08:25:26
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Well this game just got real interesting holy shit. I don't honestly know what to think of any of this. All these lies and counter claims and new claims and role claims is all a bit much to keep track of...

Bijou - mason
Aero - watcher
Ghost - rolecop
MrL - odd night doc????
BD - vanilla
Maribro - vanilla

Hydro, luminous, JLo - unclaimed

🤔🤔🤔🤔
03/06/2017 08:34:39
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
One hour remains.
03/06/2017 08:58:43
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Mr L is probably mafia doctor to be honest. His play is super scum like. Why try to throw BD under the bus with no evidence? Even if he was trying to hide being town doctor it was a poor play.

He hasn't had anything to say in response to this and there is only an hour left so..

Vote: Mr L

Really hope he's not a town doctor.
03/06/2017 09:08:08
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
I believe aero's watcher but im not convinced of BD's and Maribro's claims of being VT.

Ghostbone being rolecop explains why he's been silent this whole time, but maribro being VT doesn't.. it's very atypical behaviour.
oo bijou posted. Yeah I'm town doctor.

If we lynch BD at worst he's a VT, compared to losing a town power role.
03/06/2017 09:09:25
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
424+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
MrL said:
I believe aero's watcher but im not convinced of BD's and Maribro's claims of being VT.

Ghostbone being rolecop explains why he's been silent this whole time, but maribro being VT doesn't.. it's very atypical behaviour.

you believe ghost yet ghost himself confirmed Maribro being VT.. :|
03/06/2017 09:11:36
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
BattleDolphin said:
If you got vanilla then why were you still so adamant on lynching Maribro earlier today?


I already pointed out that vanilla can also mean a generic mafia member/SK.

Also obviously I'd rather lynch a potential vanilla townie over a potential town doctor.

I'm not in cahoots with MrL or anything, and at this point I think voting him off is a perfectly sensible decision for the rest of town considering there's no way to guarantee that I'm telling the truth.

03/06/2017 09:14:41
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Ghost didn't confirm he's vanilla townie, just vanilla.

That means Maribro could be either Town or Mafia Goon.
03/06/2017 09:14:58
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Also I'm Mumbo Jumbo.

I've been leaving some things in the chat to show that im mumbo jumbo.

"I was a bit of a bonehead with taking too long to reveal and this entire situation should've been avoided but he's the best choice at this time."

bonehead is one of the names banjo calls mumbo jumbo in banjo kazooie instead of his actual name.

"I agree with bijou that if he actually said he was a power role it'd make more sense, but all this nonsense about being a VT is weird. "

I was gonna say mumbo jumbo instead of nonsense but wouldve been too obvious, but nonsense is a synonym so eh.

"Lynching me first will guarantee the situation that you are afraid of. We'll be swamped by anti-town pretty quickly."

swamp is in reference to bobblegoop swamp where mumbo jumbo (me) can turn banjo into a crocidile to make him resistant (protecting) him from the pirhanas (mafia) that infest the waters.
BattleDolphin said:
MrL said:
I believe aero's watcher but im not convinced of BD's and Maribro's claims of being VT.

Ghostbone being rolecop explains why he's been silent this whole time, but maribro being VT doesn't.. it's very atypical behaviour.

you believe ghost yet ghost himself confirmed Maribro being VT.. :|
oh did he? didn't see that
03/06/2017 09:15:55
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
424+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Ghostbone said:
BattleDolphin said:
If you got vanilla then why were you still so adamant on lynching Maribro earlier today?


I already pointed out that vanilla can also mean a generic mafia member/SK.

oh right true
03/06/2017 09:15:58
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Why did you hide you were doctor by fake claiming watcher? You could have just claimed doctor.

Also what character are you actually? Dingpot for doctor sounds like a weird lore choice.
03/06/2017 09:16:45
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
cos claiming doctor would be the logical target for mafia and then we'd have no one to protect people for the rest of the game.

I was hoping to get atleast one more protection in.
claiming watcher would then be the logical choice to be protected, so mafia wouldn't bother with me, while i can protect their other logical choice.
03/06/2017 09:18:22
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Oh okay I see. So where did you get the Dingpot idea?

Anti town players have a bunch of fake claims to use. And Dingpot definitely wouldn't spring to mind for me as a character to claim.

I couldn't even remember who he was at first until Aero told me.

Therefore you are anti town.
I mean if anyone else was Dingpot they could have called you out and you would have died. But all anti town players have a safe fake claim to use.

Coincidence?
03/06/2017 09:21:12
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
i used dingpot cos i didn't think anyone else would be him, it'd be dumb to use an obvious choice to be instantly counter-character claimed.

I read him up so at the start of the game the witch person is using him to watch tootie when she asks who's the most beautiful of them all or something. so i came up with watcher.
as for mafia having a safeclaim, it would've been stupid for the admin to give me a fakeclaim that was easily countered by aero claiming watcher whilst ghostbone could easily rolecheck him.
03/06/2017 09:23:04
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Anti town have fake character claims, I don't think it extends to fake roles as well does it?

Or maybe it does. Hm. That would be broken.
Hang on actually. If anti town players have safe claims for both character AND role then this is new information by the way.

What makes you think anti town players have fake role claims to go with their character claims?

Know something we don't?
Lol. I don't know what to do here.
I'll probably be away the next 30 mins so someone else make a decision so we don't throw the day away
03/06/2017 09:29:15
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
424+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
is there anyone else around to have thoughts on all this? i still think MrL is scum as hell so my vote is staying where it is more than likely
03/06/2017 09:31:55
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
So, I think it's less likely that there will be a vanilla mafia because Laggy was mafia backup.

I could potentially see Mafia Doctor.

That said, if Mr L is Mumbo Jumbo it seems likely that that role would already be in the game?
I still think Mr L is the correct lynch today because we still don't know why Mr L was randomly targeting BattleDolphin, fake claimed and fabricated evidence to have him lynched? And why?
03/06/2017 09:50:49
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
@Bijou, i just assumed this whole time that mafia would have characters and roles to claim. It's kind pointless having a character to claim but not a role. You can't use your actual role if you're scum and any fake role you come up with will probably be counterclaimed like aero did to me.
03/06/2017 09:51:23
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
vote: MrL

A lynch is better than no lynch imo.
03/06/2017 09:54:42
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
@Aero.

Targetting BD--

I just think he's mafia tbh.

Fake claim--

If I claimed doctor the mafia would just kill me to make sure all other kills they try to make will happen. Me claiming watcher would make it look like that the doctor in the game would protect me, so they'd go for someone else of whom I could try to protect.

Basically, if he's mafia, it's good for us. If he is a VT, then that's better than losing the doctor.
Maribro said:
vote: MrL

A lynch is better than no lynch imo.
ye and lynching mafia or VT is better than lynching town doctor?
03/06/2017 09:56:57
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