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Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw

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  3. Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
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- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
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4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
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We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Days have a deadline of one weeks. Nights have a deadline of 48 hours.
Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 48 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond.
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With Yooka-Laylee coming out soon we decided to make a themed game of where it all started, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie!

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Survived:
Maribro, Vanilla Townie
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie
BattleDolphin, Vanilla Townie
Ghostbone, Mafia Rolecop

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Backup, lynched Day 1.
Invisi, Town Mason, killed Night 1.
Windkeeper0, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
cAKE, Town Gunsmith, lynched Day 2.
HydroPimp, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Aerodrome, Town Watcher, killed Night 3.
JLo, Town Courier, lynched Day 4.
Bijou, Town Mason, killed Night 4.
HydroPimp (replacing Extra), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, lynched Day 5.
MrL, Odd-night Doctor, killed Night 5.

Notes:
HydroPimp replaced Extra Day 3.
Rhyno 03/22/2017 21:08:26
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JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
Ghost wasn't really the obvious kill it made much more sense to kill Bijou. Ghost's power is pretty useless at this point, all it means that the mafia didnt kill him is that the mafia dont care if they get rolecopped. Bijou is much smarter kill for them since he is never going to get voted off while ghost can by town just following your logic. So him not dying doesn't tell us much he could be either still.
03/13/2017 09:46:34
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
The mafia definitely would care about being role copped, seeing as we've all (i think?) revealed.

Considering what happened with the two night 1 kills AND with aero dieing when I protected him. It means that there is definitely a strongman, unless one of the mafia was able to also kill more than once independently from the maf night kill to go through my protection. In which case the role cop would definitely be a threat to mafia.

The only instance there of the role cop posing no threat was if they were one of them.
03/13/2017 10:08:05
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Wtf why is Ghostbone at L-1?

one of you idiots unvote, preferably both of you. We're at Lylo, even a misvote is enough at this stage to lose the game.
03/13/2017 10:29:22
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
calm down he's at L-2 i'm not that dumb
03/13/2017 10:29:51
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
BattleDolphin said:
calm down he's at L-2 i'm not that dumb


Yes and how many mafia are there?
03/13/2017 10:30:22
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
i guess
unvote
03/13/2017 10:31:13
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Alright seeing as Maribro has conveniently not addressed anything that's been said, I'd like to hear from luminouslucas for his thoughts before moving onward.
03/13/2017 11:40:25
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Why would mafia care about being rolecopped? If they're vanilla it doesn't matter, if they're the role they claimed (But mafia aligned) it doesn't matter. Once everyone has claimed I'm worthless. Killing the confirmed townie is obviously better, since then mafia can do exactly what MrL has done and try to get me lynched for surviving even though I'm a power role.

Either you haven't really thought it through MrL, or you're just trying really hard to get someone lynched quick to win.

If you're wondering where strongman came from then it's clearly Hydro.

Mafia is probably MrL/Hydro or Battledolphin/Hydro judging by the fact that I wasn't quickhammered from 2 votes.
03/13/2017 12:01:44
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
I had thought about the possible battledolphin/hydro duo, with hydro being responsible for the night 1 kill AND the second kill breaking my protection on aero, if there is no strongman. But doesn't joat have one shot of each ability usually? As for hydro and myself being mafia, that doesn't make any sense. If there is no SK then me being mafia doctor makes no sense, and you wouldn't have a joat as well as a doctor as the mafia. A joat and an odd-night doctor both being mafia would be a weird and weak team.

A hydro/battledolphin or maybe hydro/maribro could work, but a hydro/myself or hydro/ghostbone duo wouldn't make much sense.

You getting Vanilla from BD and Maribro, joat from hydro, doctor from myself and yourself being a role cop. That means that assuming all of your role cop claims have been correct, the possible combinations are:

BD and hydro - Vanilla + JOAT
BD and Ghostbone - Vanilla + Role cop

Maribro and hydro - Vanilla + JOAT
Maribro and Ghostbone - Vanilla + Role cop

Ghostbone and Hydro - Cop + JOAT

Considering that a standard JOAT is one-shot of each, hydro could not be the one who made the 2nd kill night 1 AND broke protection against aero. It must be a strongman

Which leaves the possibilities of:

BD and Ghostbone - Anything + role cop
Maribro and Ghostbone - Anything + role cop
Ghostbone and Hydro - role cop + anything. Hydro can claim JOAT and then you confirm that he is as role cop.


I don't think it can be BD and Hydro or Maribro and Hydro. The only possible way for Hydro to be mafia is if JOAT was a fake role that he made up and you confirmed.

Myself and Hydro as JOAT makes no sense. Myself and BD or Maribro as vanilla does not explain how there were two kills on two nights (or the alternative of two kills on one night and a strongman on the aero night).
Could JOAT in theory be a 1-shot strongman?
If so, that explains how there was the 2nd kill first night and the breaking of protection with the aero very well.

Ghost + BD or Ghost + Maribro doesn't explain that nearly as well.
unless Hydro bluffed about not using his shot,when it was actually used night 1. and BD or Maribro is instead the strongman.

But why not say so?
03/13/2017 12:54:11
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Oh yea I forgot that without an SK then mafia doctor makes no sense.

So mafia is probably battledolphin/Hydro

Vote: Hydropimp
03/13/2017 12:55:24
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Did your scan of hydro say anything more than just being a joat? Did it say how many shots he had from the start?
03/13/2017 14:45:37
LuminousLucasVictoriaLucas
MrL said:
Alright seeing as Maribro has conveniently not addressed anything that's been said, I'd like to hear from luminouslucas for his thoughts before moving onward.


From the looks of it, I'm reading that Maribro is townie as they could've just hammered hydro with their possible teammate and won. BD and Hyrdo sounds like a very likely possibility right now, but I'm also cautious right now and rather not vote until I feel like the need to do so.
03/14/2017 05:11:26
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Yeah I feel you.

For hydro to be mafia though that means he must haved lied about his 1-shot doc ability, so it must be something else. It could be strongman, but im not so sure as his 1-shot kill explains the 2 kills night 1 and he could have used his 1-shot roleblock on me when i tried to protect aero. He claims he protected me that night though iirc, so it could've been a cover in case somehow aero lived and watched me or something.
03/14/2017 05:16:42
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Sorry guys had an assignment yesterday. Given Hydro's lack of defence, would say it's pretty obvious he's maf given all other circumstances.

Vote: HydroPimp
03/15/2017 07:29:08
LuminousLucasVictoriaLucas
L-2 now.
I want to see what happens next before voting
03/15/2017 08:54:20
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
did i kill ni__t 1 i uess i did oops it was extra t_o notttttt meeeeeee
my keyboard broke
03/15/2017 09:12:43
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
can someone pls convince me not to just vote hydro
im over this game lmao
03/15/2017 09:14:57
RhynoVictoriaPokémon Trainer
26+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2480-4766-7898
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 2921-9105-5321
His keyboard is actually broken btw.
03/15/2017 09:20:03
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Activity warning. Haven't heard from MrL or Ghostbone in quite a while. Deadline is less than 48 hours away.
03/16/2017 06:50:28
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
It's pretty obvious at this stage Hydro is mafia. If he isn't mafia have outplayed us all and deserve the win. Someone just end this day.
03/16/2017 09:01:35
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
I just don't see the justification in thinking a joat, backup and goon would be the mafia. It seems too weak considering all the power roles we have.
eh screw it im pretty much done with this game

Vote: Hydropimp

gg if hydro isn't mafia
03/16/2017 10:20:46
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Someone hammer pls
03/16/2017 10:25:33
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
ResidentSleeper
03/16/2017 11:16:49
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Vote: Hydropimp i dont think hes mafia but yous do so whatevs idc
03/16/2017 12:31:49
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Majority has been reached. Thread will close shortly.
As their end grew nigh, townsfolk finally had reason to cheer.

After four long days, they had finally struck back once again against the threat that faced them. And did they ever! The big target was struck down, Gruntilda finally falling.

"I'll be back in Banjo Threeie!" Gruntilda exclaims as she reaches her end.

But things had not yet finished, as threats to the town still lurked...


HydroPimp (replacing Extra) (Gruntilda), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, has been lynched.

Night 5 begins. Those with night actions, please send them to a moderator as soon as possible.

Final vote count for Day 5:
Not voted (2) - LuminousLucas, HydroPimp
HydroPimp (4) - Ghostbone, Maribro, MrL, BattleDolphin
With the finish line in sight, right after all the hard work had been done, Mumbo Jumbo decided to take action. Yes, with both our heroes down someone needed to stand up and take the spotlight.

But right as he left his skull, right as he stepped towards the protagonist's role, he was cruelly struck down. Maybe next time, Mumbo.


MrL (Mumbo Jumbo), Town Odd-night Doctor, has been killed.

Day 6 begins. With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
03/16/2017 21:26:14
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