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Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw

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  3. Banjo Kazooie/Tooie Mafia | it's a draw
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY PARAPHRASE your abilities, copy-paste from role PM is not allowed
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be.
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread. If a dead player had a role that let them communicate privately, they are to cease doing that.
9. Character claiming is allowed.
We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Days have a deadline of one weeks. Nights have a deadline of 48 hours.
Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 48 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond.
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With Yooka-Laylee coming out soon we decided to make a themed game of where it all started, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie!

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Survived:
Maribro, Vanilla Townie
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie
BattleDolphin, Vanilla Townie
Ghostbone, Mafia Rolecop

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Mafia Backup, lynched Day 1.
Invisi, Town Mason, killed Night 1.
Windkeeper0, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
cAKE, Town Gunsmith, lynched Day 2.
HydroPimp, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 2.
Aerodrome, Town Watcher, killed Night 3.
JLo, Town Courier, lynched Day 4.
Bijou, Town Mason, killed Night 4.
HydroPimp (replacing Extra), Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades, lynched Day 5.
MrL, Odd-night Doctor, killed Night 5.

Notes:
HydroPimp replaced Extra Day 3.
Rhyno 03/22/2017 21:08:26
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MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
I did character claim actually, get your facts straight. I claimed Tooty who is Banjo's sis. Aero no longer considered me a strong candidate for mafia after I role claimed and character claimed and said he'd rather lynch you over lynching me. It's also kinda ironic that you think either myself or BD is lying when you are someone has already lied at least once this game so…
03/08/2017 09:36:49
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
didn't someone else claim tooty? my bad then.

I lied cos if i said i was doctor then i would've been killed by mafia even if you didn't lynch me, we've already covered this
Did BD claim anyone as well?
yeah nevermind i was getting confused with bijou but he claimed kazooie not tooty
03/08/2017 09:52:47
JLoVictoriaKirby
27+ tourneys
Wii U: thatdudejono
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Sorry for the sudden inactivity for the past few days, didn't expect to be busy IRL.

I am Bottles, the Town Courier. Each night, I can choose to send a message to any of the players. The message is anonymous unless I sign it with my name. I have not used my powers all game.

Hopefully this information finds you well.
03/08/2017 11:09:16
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
LuminousLucas - Red Jinjo (VT)
HydroPimp - Humba Wumba (JoaT)
MrL - Mumbo Jumbo (Odd night doctor)
Maribro - Tooty (VT)
JLo - Bottles (Courier)
BattleDolphin - unclaimed (VT)
Bijou - Kazooie (Mason)
Ghostbone - Cheato (rolecop)

This is really fuckin hard. Before I do or say anything, I wanna hear from Bijou as he is the only person in the game right now who is confirmed townie.
03/08/2017 12:06:13
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
i claimed VT red feather earlier c:
MrL said:
You two only said that you were a VT but not what your character was which is a bit odd already, before this all happened last night it was yourself and me as top candidates for mafia.


I feel like MrL is just scraping at anything trying to get one of us lynched :| but then he also didn't include me in his little list, so i feel like he is just scraping to lynch anyone at all lol
btw i quoted that because both of us had character claimed yet he said this
JLo said:
Sorry for the sudden inactivity for the past few days, didn't expect to be busy IRL.

I am Bottles, the Town Courier. Each night, I can choose to send a message to any of the players. The message is anonymous unless I sign it with my name. I have not used my powers all game.

Hopefully this information finds you well.

This is kinda suspicious? Because like it's awful convenient that he hasn't used it yet so we have no one to confirm :|
03/08/2017 12:19:56
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
oh yeah that's right, my bad for forgetting that.

I agree with you that JLo's post was a bit suspicious, I was gonna say so before but thought that you or maribro would probably just disregard as me trying to make someone else look sus :0
03/08/2017 12:37:13
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
JLo said:
Sorry for the sudden inactivity for the past few days, didn't expect to be busy IRL.

I am Bottles, the Town Courier. Each night, I can choose to send a message to any of the players. The message is anonymous unless I sign it with my name. I have not used my powers all game.

Hopefully this information finds you well.


This is rubbish. Why bother having a power that presumably has no amount of uses to it and then not using it 3 nights in a row? If at the very least it would confirm you really do have that power.

Vote: Jlo
Literally you could have sent someone a fullstop and nothing else and someone could at least confirm the existence of a courier lol.
03/08/2017 13:00:48
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Why didn't you send anything to anyone JLo? It does seem like something you'd do atleast once, if for proof of being town if nothing else.
03/08/2017 13:05:07
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Maribro said:
LuminousLucas - Red Jinjo (VT)
HydroPimp - Humba Wumba (JoaT)
MrL - Mumbo Jumbo (Odd night doctor)
Maribro - Tooty (VT)
JLo - Bottles (Courier)
BattleDolphin - unclaimed (VT)
Bijou - Kazooie (Mason)
Ghostbone - Cheato (rolecop)

This is really fuckin hard. Before I do or say anything, I wanna hear from Bijou as he is the only person in the game right now who is confirmed townie.


LuminousLucas - Red Jinjo (VT) - Seems like a weak claim. Someone has to be mafia at this point.
HydroPimp - Humba Wumba (JoaT) - Probably legit.
MrL - Mumbo Jumbo (Odd night doctor) - Unless Ghost is lying, is a doctor. Not confirmed town though.
Maribro - Tooty (VT) - Can't really tell at the moment. I still feel like Tooty is the kind of fake claim Gruntilda would have lol.
JLo - Bottles (Courier) - Don't believe this at all.
BattleDolphin - Red Feather (VT) - Of all the VT claims I think BD is probably the most likely to be town.
Bijou - Kazooie (Mason) - Already confirmed.
Ghostbone - Cheato (rolecop) - Cheato is the sort of character I would expect to be a rolecop. I suppose he could be mafia rolecop though.
MrL said:
Why didn't you send anything to anyone JLo? It does seem like something you'd do atleast once, if for proof of being town if nothing else.


Because he's not a courier probably. I can't see someone as smart as Jlo having a power like that and not at least setting up evidence to prove he is town by messaging some players. It would be so easy to confirm yourself as town with this power.

The fact he hasn't done it is proof he's anti-town to be honest.

Also Bottles died in Banjo Tooie, so he couldn't possibly be Bottles.
03/08/2017 13:09:47
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Wow you didn't even spoiler alert that wtf
03/08/2017 13:10:39
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
SPOOOOILLLEERRRZZZZZ!!
Nah in all reality i agree Jlo's claim sounds like bs, i didn't even consider he could've sent useless messages too to prove himself lol
VOTE: Jlo please explain
03/08/2017 13:14:16
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Maribro said:
Wow you didn't even spoiler alert that wtf
I lol'd at this
Final votes for Day 1:
Not Voted (4) - LuminousLucas, cAKE, Battledolphin, Bijou
ThatLaggyPerson (8) - Aerodrome, Ghostbone, Windkeeper0, Extra, MrL, HydroPimp, JLo, Maribro
Aerodrome (2) - ThatLaggyPerson, Invisi

Final votes for Day 2:
Not voted (1) - cAKE
Aerodrome (2) - BattleDolphin, Maribro
MrL (1) - Aerodrome
Maribro (1) - Hydropimp
cAKE (6) - Bijou, JLo, MrL, LuminousLucas, Extra, Ghostbone

Final votes for Day 3:
Not voted (1) - LuminousLucas
Maribro (2) - MrL, Ghostbone
MrL (4) - BattleDolphin, Aerodrome, Bijou, Maribro
BattleDolphin (2) - HydroPimp, Jlo


Here are all the votes so far by the way. I find Lucas and Jlo's votes (or lack of votes) the most suspicious the more I look at it.
03/08/2017 13:17:58
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
Jlo's votes seem to always be on the person who was looking to die? (Because i had the votes like an hour before day 3 ended and he wasn't online at the time??)
Also do we know if the mafia knew about Laggy? because backup roles are like if this role dies the backup replaces them right? so idk if the mafia knew they had a backup?
Could explain why mafia members would lynch laggy, even though lets be real you cant really reasonably defend him at this point without looking super suss anyway lmao
03/08/2017 13:25:23
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Love your logic Bijou

Vote: JLo
03/08/2017 13:36:59
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Do you want me to put him on L-1 or wait?
03/08/2017 13:42:18
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
nah nah would recommend waiting
dont want no snipes
03/08/2017 13:43:00
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
why would the mafia snipe themselves :')

but yeah i'd like to hear a defense first before moving on.
03/08/2017 13:58:41
BattleDolphinQueenslandJigglypuff
422+ tourneys
Wii U: BattleDolphin
3DS: 5429-8245-2326
MrL said:
why would the mafia snipe themselves :')

but yeah i'd like to hear a defense first before moving on.

lel tru ;ppp
03/08/2017 13:59:04
JLoVictoriaKirby
27+ tourneys
Wii U: thatdudejono
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Yo what's up, it seems like I'm in the chopping block because of my roleclaim.

The way I saw the function of the role was: to share any reads that I had to other players without anyone else knowing. It seemed like a role which was hard to use, and can lead to me being implicated if used improperly. For instance, if I target someone who is both targeted by a Watcher and an NK, that can lead to me being sussed out.

It never occurred to me to use the power to confirm myself as a townie and throughout the game, I never felt the need to do so. Also, if I wanted to lay low, why would I preemptively claim while not pressured? If I was Mafia (which I'm not), it is a self-destructive play.

And why would I blatantly display my bandwagoning tendencies every single day if I wanted to lay low?
03/09/2017 01:23:21
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
If you want to put yourself on a bunch of bandwagons and thus make yourself sus, then you'd definitely have used your power to be able to confirm yourself as town later on in the game.

"Why would I claim while not pressured?" because obviously it's incredibly suspicious if you try to hide your role while everyone else has claimed, that seems fairly obvious. Just because you didn't currently have votes on you doesn't mean they wouldn't have rolled in very soon.

Now we could wait and let me investigate Jlo (courier sounds like something that wouldnt be a mafia role) but that assumes that I live, and we would have to figure out someone else to vote off.
I just said obvious twice in the same sentence A+ proofreading ghost
03/09/2017 02:18:49
LuminousLucasVictoriaLucas
If you weren't going to use the power in the first place, why lay low?
03/09/2017 05:32:36
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
I'll be in Tasmania until Monday and will have limited access. Please direct all questions and complaints to Ryan in that time.
03/09/2017 21:46:41
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
yes pls give all complaints to me
03/09/2017 23:12:28
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Activity prod for THE ENTIRE GAME please pick the activity up.
03/10/2017 03:01:44
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
I'll put him on L-1 in 40 minutes then? Unless someone has another idea on what to do next?
03/10/2017 03:21:23
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