didn't invisi claim bookie last game and he turned out to be lying? could be the same here
01/30/2017 06:46:40
Windkeeper claimed bookie miller, while Hydropimp was bookie.
Invisi claimed Firefighter and he was the firefighter.
01/30/2017 06:56:38
Invisi claimed Firefighter and he was the firefighter.
01/30/2017 06:56:38
Why can't I vote for Laggy twice for not only being meta but also being wrong while being meta
01/30/2017 07:26:12
01/30/2017 07:26:12
Hello it seems I am late to the party. What do we have here, Invisi claiming Bookie?
Best outcome is losing Laggy and he flips scum. Worst outcome is losing Laggy and he flips as an important power role.
What does both outcomes have in common?
We lose Laggy.
Vote: ThatLaggyPerson
I say let the meme live.
01/30/2017 07:43:04
Best outcome is losing Laggy and he flips scum. Worst outcome is losing Laggy and he flips as an important power role.
What does both outcomes have in common?
We lose Laggy.
Vote: ThatLaggyPerson
I say let the meme live.
01/30/2017 07:43:04
I'm for the laggy lynch today but we still haven't heard from Battledolphin, Extra or LuminousLucas. Laggy is a L-2 at this point so it's probably for the best that no one else votes for him until those people have said something.
01/30/2017 08:05:09
01/30/2017 08:05:09
i'm sick right now so blah.
don't really like invisi's play. picking laggy is fine but the literal first post of the game being a role reveal + bandwagon on a bad player stifles discussion. feels like it's just going 'hey guys let's rush day 1 so i can get my cool power'. yeah maybe we woulda just killed laggy anyway (most likely tbh) but it's still lame. most people's posts have just been a one-liner / nothing at all followed by voting for laggy. though i guess everyone hated day 1 last game so that's no surprise.
mafiawiki says almost nothing about bookie but says that sometimes it can augment existing powers. if he were mafia i'd imagine that's what his power does instead of what he said. claiming day 1 is very bold, gets all attention on him and isn't necessary to swing a laggy lynch though so i'm not inclined to believe he's mafia, and he is almost certainly the role he claims he is in spite of alignment.
as a member of last game's mafia faction, we were perfectly happy that laggy was kept around as even with his dumbass role we were confident that if things went ok we could probably swing another lynch on him. won't put him on L-1 just yet though cause it's been like less than 10 hours.
01/30/2017 09:05:14
don't really like invisi's play. picking laggy is fine but the literal first post of the game being a role reveal + bandwagon on a bad player stifles discussion. feels like it's just going 'hey guys let's rush day 1 so i can get my cool power'. yeah maybe we woulda just killed laggy anyway (most likely tbh) but it's still lame. most people's posts have just been a one-liner / nothing at all followed by voting for laggy. though i guess everyone hated day 1 last game so that's no surprise.
mafiawiki says almost nothing about bookie but says that sometimes it can augment existing powers. if he were mafia i'd imagine that's what his power does instead of what he said. claiming day 1 is very bold, gets all attention on him and isn't necessary to swing a laggy lynch though so i'm not inclined to believe he's mafia, and he is almost certainly the role he claims he is in spite of alignment.
as a member of last game's mafia faction, we were perfectly happy that laggy was kept around as even with his dumbass role we were confident that if things went ok we could probably swing another lynch on him. won't put him on L-1 just yet though cause it's been like less than 10 hours.
01/30/2017 09:05:14
Lol every day 1 is exactly the same haha.
01/30/2017 10:02:23
01/30/2017 10:02:23
Well there's no real information to go off on day 1.
So Invisi chucked us a curve ball which could be true to get some discussion going on day 1. But it's hard to say cause there is no solid grounding to back up the claim since it is day 1.
01/30/2017 12:39:45
So Invisi chucked us a curve ball which could be true to get some discussion going on day 1. But it's hard to say cause there is no solid grounding to back up the claim since it is day 1.
01/30/2017 12:39:45
Realistically we were probably going to lynch laggy anyway so Invisi's claim doesn't matter much.
Relax a bit though guys no need to finish this in 1 day when the day cycles are reduced to a week anyway. Will go by fast.
01/30/2017 12:56:23
Relax a bit though guys no need to finish this in 1 day when the day cycles are reduced to a week anyway. Will go by fast.
01/30/2017 12:56:23
Am I correct in seeing it is -2? If it hits lynch time and I don't see it PM me or Maribro and we can finish the day up.
01/30/2017 13:13:10
01/30/2017 13:13:10
Extra said:There is no discussion on day 1 to stifle in the first place. I think the only mafia game I've seen before this one where anything noteworthy happened on day 1 was the smash bros character themed one when Laggy basically admitted to being mafia on day 1. I'm sick of it taking over a week for us to pick someone and get to the interesting part of the game because somehow waiting several days for information that people either don't have or aren't going to give is somehow more optimal.
don't really like invisi's play. picking laggy is fine but the literal first post of the game being a role reveal + bandwagon on a bad player stifles discussion. feels like it's just going 'hey guys let's rush day 1 so i can get my cool power'. yeah maybe we woulda just killed laggy anyway (most likely tbh) but it's still lame. most people's posts have just been a one-liner / nothing at all followed by voting for laggy. though i guess everyone hated day 1 last game so that's no surprise.
A few people have suggested waiting to see what happens, and while I respect that opinion, I just don't think it's necessary. It prolongs the game and makes it less interesting for everyone involved and provides no benefit to the town in the vast majority of cases. Waiting is boring; a fast game's a good game.
That said, I do want to hear from Laggy before we lynch him. If having him alive would be more useful to the town than a random one shot power on me, then that's definitely what we should do. But he's not convincing me at the moment; he's only posted once since the lynch train started and made no attempt to defend himself, instead accusing me of lying. Laggy, is there any reason we should let you live?
01/30/2017 23:19:18
Weve got more info from this day already than all mafia games combined, so lets just lynch him already
01/30/2017 23:55:07
01/30/2017 23:55:07
TL:DR~
Invisi quickclaimed bookie and apparently had a night 0 action to call a day 1 lynch, targetted Laggy
Laggy isnt defending himself?
Trying to figure out if he's town-aligned or mafia, laggy probs has an OP town role that we'll lose but he'll unlikely make use of
I guess we just wait until Luminouslucas and battledolphin post until we hammer incase they have anything to say Or maybe, Invisi just REALLY doesn't want laggy to live past day 1 :p
01/31/2017 00:16:56
Invisi quickclaimed bookie and apparently had a night 0 action to call a day 1 lynch, targetted Laggy
Laggy isnt defending himself?
Trying to figure out if he's town-aligned or mafia, laggy probs has an OP town role that we'll lose but he'll unlikely make use of
I guess we just wait until Luminouslucas and battledolphin post until we hammer incase they have anything to say Or maybe, Invisi just REALLY doesn't want laggy to live past day 1 :p
01/31/2017 00:16:56
Just got NBN so I can post now.
Placing trust in Invisi on day 1 is a 50/50 situation. We either confirm they are town through their action/power etc. Or they are just lying to rush day 1.
Let's take time and not rush today because that's what the Mafia have and always will want.
01/31/2017 00:26:52
Placing trust in Invisi on day 1 is a 50/50 situation. We either confirm they are town through their action/power etc. Or they are just lying to rush day 1.
Let's take time and not rush today because that's what the Mafia have and always will want.
01/31/2017 00:26:52
I'd LOVE to see someone swing this train the other way, because with the way this is unfolding, there's no digging Laggy out of this ditch.
01/31/2017 00:30:51
01/31/2017 00:30:51
Yes laggy is the player that invisi would risk it all to lynch
Of course
01/31/2017 00:53:57
Of course
01/31/2017 00:53:57
I just don't like it. It smells off.
It's a completely different play to what Invisi has been doing the last few games at the beginning of each, when he was town.
If he's mafia, it's a rushed day 1 with an obvious lynch to make, town is done 1 with no objection. Yes he's a weak player, but we still have less information than if we drew it out some more. Day 1 provides little information, but there's always something. With this we'll get nothing.
It's even worse if he's a mafia bookie, then we'll be down 1 and mafia would have gained an power.
I've already said it and i'll say it again, but I just don't understand how willing people are to go along with it. I feel that people's eagerness to get day 1 out of the way is being abused.
01/31/2017 02:03:22
It's a completely different play to what Invisi has been doing the last few games at the beginning of each, when he was town.
If he's mafia, it's a rushed day 1 with an obvious lynch to make, town is done 1 with no objection. Yes he's a weak player, but we still have less information than if we drew it out some more. Day 1 provides little information, but there's always something. With this we'll get nothing.
It's even worse if he's a mafia bookie, then we'll be down 1 and mafia would have gained an power.
I've already said it and i'll say it again, but I just don't understand how willing people are to go along with it. I feel that people's eagerness to get day 1 out of the way is being abused.
01/31/2017 02:03:22
Hello fam I am here
While I don't necessarily agree with Invisi revealing his role this early on, I don't think he is Mafia for doing it. I feel like this would be too much risk for now being a prime target by everyone, for very little reward in lynching laggy. Just my 2 cents, lynch him imo. Idk how many votes there are rn so I won't cast mine yet
01/31/2017 02:14:58
While I don't necessarily agree with Invisi revealing his role this early on, I don't think he is Mafia for doing it. I feel like this would be too much risk for now being a prime target by everyone, for very little reward in lynching laggy. Just my 2 cents, lynch him imo. Idk how many votes there are rn so I won't cast mine yet
01/31/2017 02:14:58
Votes updated.
01/31/2017 02:22:03
01/31/2017 02:22:03
Lynching laggy garners no suspicion and a free ability that strengthens mafia.
I'm not saying he is, but if it were the case it's very beneficial.
It's not really a risky play (especially with everyone believing him) with little being able to be proven or disproven.
It's just best to consider all the different possbilities of the situation before jumping to conclusions and voting laggy out.
1. He is town-alligned bookie
2. He is mafia-alligned bookie
3. He is bluffing and using another role to get information from people's night actions in response to his claim.
4. He is mafia, but not a bookie; instead a different mafia is bookie but he decided to state the play. Don't know why unless he's 1-shot unlynchable or something to that effect
I suppose 1 and 2 are more likely, but I wouldn't rule out the 3rd and 4th options as Invisi is a very tactical and experienced player.
I just don't like the whole thing I guess it's best to roll with it for now, but consider these possible scenarios. I won't vote as of yet
01/31/2017 02:41:30
I'm not saying he is, but if it were the case it's very beneficial.
It's not really a risky play (especially with everyone believing him) with little being able to be proven or disproven.
It's just best to consider all the different possbilities of the situation before jumping to conclusions and voting laggy out.
1. He is town-alligned bookie
2. He is mafia-alligned bookie
3. He is bluffing and using another role to get information from people's night actions in response to his claim.
4. He is mafia, but not a bookie; instead a different mafia is bookie but he decided to state the play. Don't know why unless he's 1-shot unlynchable or something to that effect
I suppose 1 and 2 are more likely, but I wouldn't rule out the 3rd and 4th options as Invisi is a very tactical and experienced player.
I just don't like the whole thing I guess it's best to roll with it for now, but consider these possible scenarios. I won't vote as of yet
01/31/2017 02:41:30
I can understand the suspicion, I haven't been so forthcoming with my role in previous games. As I previously stated, I decided to reveal my role because I felt that would be the best way to make my role most useful to the town, while also not drawing too much mafia attention my way (like a cop or doctor reveal would do).
Most town power roles want to hang back while they gather information, and only reveal themselves when they have enough useful information to contribute that even if the mafia take them out for it their contribution would have been a worthwhile trade. My role is different in that if I hang back and just keep guessing, the chances are likely that I won't get to use any abilities and will basically be a vanilla townie. That's why I decided to reveal as early as I did. Obviously, if I bet on someone who we find out to be town, then I won't advocate for lynching them. The life of a townie is worth more than a 1-shot power.
01/31/2017 03:06:29
Most town power roles want to hang back while they gather information, and only reveal themselves when they have enough useful information to contribute that even if the mafia take them out for it their contribution would have been a worthwhile trade. My role is different in that if I hang back and just keep guessing, the chances are likely that I won't get to use any abilities and will basically be a vanilla townie. That's why I decided to reveal as early as I did. Obviously, if I bet on someone who we find out to be town, then I won't advocate for lynching them. The life of a townie is worth more than a 1-shot power.
01/31/2017 03:06:29
It feels as if you're contradicting yourself, "I don't want mafia attention on me" but you noted the fact that if you guess right you get powers, making you a quick target for mafia IF you are town IF laggy is lynched today, doesn't really add up. If Laggy is town and Invisi is mafia he could just want the free n1 kill so we're down 2 town before we have any real information, let alone knowing if or when Invisi gets his powers.
Not really feeling this lynch now, have some suspicion of Invisi but alas,
VOTE: Unvote Also would appreciate if Laggy could input anything that's not just memeposting
01/31/2017 04:26:09
Not really feeling this lynch now, have some suspicion of Invisi but alas,
VOTE: Unvote Also would appreciate if Laggy could input anything that's not just memeposting
01/31/2017 04:26:09
I too would like Laggy to state what he thinks about being bet on night 0 instead of claiming Invisi did something last game that he didn't.
01/31/2017 04:31:43
01/31/2017 04:31:43
FramesJanco said:I don't think I'm contradicting myself. A 1-shot power isn't super threatening such that the mafia would specifically want to target me, so I don't feel like I'm risking too much by revealing my role. At the same time, a townie with a 1-shot power is better than a vanilla townie, hence I feel it is beneficial to reveal my role in order to up my chances of receiving such powers.
It feels as if you're contradicting yourself, "I don't want mafia attention on me" but you noted the fact that if you guess right you get powers, making you a quick target for mafia IF you are town IF laggy is lynched today, doesn't really add up. If Laggy is town and Invisi is mafia he could just want the free n1 kill so we're down 2 town before we have any real information, let alone knowing if or when Invisi gets his powers.
Not really feeling this lynch now, have some suspicion of Invisi but alas,
VOTE: Unvote Also would appreciate if Laggy could input anything that's not just memeposting
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that Laggy's silence is helping no one, especially not himself.
01/31/2017 04:50:35
am back from school
okay, so I think that a night 0 action isnt possible. even it is, I dont know if I would to believe it.
I think the reason why invisi claimed is because there was flavour text at the start of the game, maybe he could try to cover up the fact that a night 0 existed.
or he could be trying to control you guys and is the mafia plus I am a easy target.
01/31/2017 05:07:08
okay, so I think that a night 0 action isnt possible. even it is, I dont know if I would to believe it.
I think the reason why invisi claimed is because there was flavour text at the start of the game, maybe he could try to cover up the fact that a night 0 existed.
or he could be trying to control you guys and is the mafia plus I am a easy target.
01/31/2017 05:07:08