Fair enough, so all I need to do is keep my vote on him? Was planning on doing that anyway.
6 years ago
I'm down for dean's trial and error method, I doubt that the hammerer is a double voter as well but I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. It will just take a bit of co-ordination but 2 weeks should be plenty of time to do it.
6 years ago
6 years ago
Tl;dr for those who cbf reading:
Atyeo, Blaze, Glace, ThatLaggyPerson, JEANS, Asa, Mr L, Insie need to get on the vote train. Doing this we can weed out the Hammerer by smartly swapping votes on and off.
6 years ago
Atyeo, Blaze, Glace, ThatLaggyPerson, JEANS, Asa, Mr L, Insie need to get on the vote train. Doing this we can weed out the Hammerer by smartly swapping votes on and off.
6 years ago
@dean, someone has to go first, besides, and im happy to do so, if insie gets hammered on my nonvote we can replicate the process the next day to prove im not hammerer, right?
6 years ago
6 years ago
Just vote please.
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6 years ago
I trust your judgement, lets just hope i dont get fucked over lmao Aero im first up i dont vote grrrr
6 years ago
6 years ago
Not voting because trolling or not voting because mafia? Can't be sure. If you're that interested in being lynched keep doing what you're doing.
6 years ago
6 years ago
No im the first person to test for hammerer
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It doesn't matter who's first, just get on the train.
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6 years ago
Fine
Vote Insie
6 years ago
Vote Insie
6 years ago
Fuckin' lol'd.
The order of the votes doesn't matter, just all the people who didn't vote before need to vote now so we can work out who the hammerer is.
6 years ago
The order of the votes doesn't matter, just all the people who didn't vote before need to vote now so we can work out who the hammerer is.
6 years ago
LOL My bad
6 years ago
6 years ago
Question: what if the hammerer actually gets to choose when they hammer and this is some 200 IQ plan to frame a townie?
Just because Insie says it's passive doesn't mean we should believe him. Mind you if they actually managed to setup a play like that they probably deserve to win but whatever lol
6 years ago
Just because Insie says it's passive doesn't mean we should believe him. Mind you if they actually managed to setup a play like that they probably deserve to win but whatever lol
6 years ago
VOTE: Insie
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6 years ago
Bijou said:Well IF it's the type of hammerer that needs to PM the mods to hammer (which I doubt; BattleDolphin's post was almost immediately after Maribro's so there wouldn't have been much time to get a PM in) and IF mafia decided that revealing another one of their powers and saccing Insie day 1 was a smart decision just to get us to mislynch once then good on them. Doesn't sound like a winning strategy to me but whatever.
Question: what if the hammerer actually gets to choose when they hammer and this is some 200 IQ plan to frame a townie?
Just because Insie says it's passive doesn't mean we should believe him. Mind you if they actually managed to setup a play like that they probably deserve to win but whatever lol
6 years ago
vote:insie
aslong as I dont have to do any of the work my head hurts you guys figure out the unvote revote shit
6 years ago
aslong as I dont have to do any of the work my head hurts you guys figure out the unvote revote shit
6 years ago
I'm down for the plan and am currently aboard the train.
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6 years ago
oh right sorry i shall follow through
unvote
6 years ago
unvote
6 years ago
By the way there is 10 of us that didn't vote to lynch Insie yesterday and we'd only need 9 votes to lynch him assuming the hammer works again so we need to set this up so that only 8 of us are going at a time right?
6 years ago
6 years ago
All of this is great, assuming Insie cooperates, but I'm still a bit confused.
Can someone please explain to me:
1. Is there any possible outcome of this process that would result in us not lynching Insie today?
2. What information do we gain from this voting-unvoting process that we do not gain from Insie's death reveal?
From where I'm at now, I understand the answer to question 1 to be no. As for question 2, if Insie flips town, we don't gain any new information because a town reveal simply confirms everything he's said up to this point. And I'm still a bit confused as to what information is gained if he flips mafia.
If he's the hammerer, then we don't get anything. If he's not then... we identify the hammerer. And lynch them tomorrow. Got it, just answered my own question.
I think I'm going to post this anyway though because I took a few minutes to think and type it up and maybe it'll explain what's going on to everyone else.
6 years ago
Can someone please explain to me:
1. Is there any possible outcome of this process that would result in us not lynching Insie today?
2. What information do we gain from this voting-unvoting process that we do not gain from Insie's death reveal?
From where I'm at now, I understand the answer to question 1 to be no. As for question 2, if Insie flips town, we don't gain any new information because a town reveal simply confirms everything he's said up to this point. And I'm still a bit confused as to what information is gained if he flips mafia.
If he's the hammerer, then we don't get anything. If he's not then... we identify the hammerer. And lynch them tomorrow. Got it, just answered my own question.
I think I'm going to post this anyway though because I took a few minutes to think and type it up and maybe it'll explain what's going on to everyone else.
6 years ago
Invisi said:
All of this is great, assuming Insie cooperates, but I'm still a bit confused.
Can someone please explain to me:
1. Is there any possible outcome of this process that would result in us not lynching Insie today?
2. What information do we gain from this voting-unvoting process that we do not gain from Insie's death reveal?
From where I'm at now, I understand the answer to question 1 to be no. As for question 2, if Insie flips town, we don't gain any new information because a town reveal simply confirms everything he's said up to this point. And I'm still a bit confused as to what information is gained if he flips mafia.
If he's the hammerer, then we don't get anything. If he's not then... we identify the hammerer. And lynch them tomorrow. Got it, just answered my own question.
I think I'm going to post this anyway though because I took a few minutes to think and type it up and maybe it'll explain what's going on to everyone else.
6 years ago
Wait a second, that means Insie doesn't actually have any reason to cooperate with us. Because if he's town, then the town don't get any more info from his cooperation. And if he's mafia (which I think is pretty much confirmed at this point), then his team stands to lose from his cooperation.
So... is there a workaround we can use that doesn't require his cooperation? Or is he able to screw over our plans?
6 years ago
So... is there a workaround we can use that doesn't require his cooperation? Or is he able to screw over our plans?
6 years ago
Nah, Insie doesn't actually NEED to cooperate.
If the nine non-Insie potential hammerers all vote for Insie to put him on L-1 and then Insie gets hammered, then we can be somewhat confident that Insie was the hammerer.
It doesn't really matter WHICH nine of the ten potential hammerers jump on the wagon, as long as we get nine on there at some stage.
If he doesn't get hammered, then that means one of the nine on the wagon is the hammerer and we start swapping out votes.
So we're still waiting on cooperation from DD and four of these five players: Atyeo, Glace, asa, MrL, Insie.
6 years ago
If the nine non-Insie potential hammerers all vote for Insie to put him on L-1 and then Insie gets hammered, then we can be somewhat confident that Insie was the hammerer.
It doesn't really matter WHICH nine of the ten potential hammerers jump on the wagon, as long as we get nine on there at some stage.
If he doesn't get hammered, then that means one of the nine on the wagon is the hammerer and we start swapping out votes.
So we're still waiting on cooperation from DD and four of these five players: Atyeo, Glace, asa, MrL, Insie.
6 years ago
@dean Wouldnt that be a better way to do it? then thered be no risk of insie being a double voter?
6 years ago
6 years ago
hmm
vote: insie
6 years ago
vote: insie
6 years ago