Aerodrome's Guidance - Smash Tutoring from Beginner to Intermediate Levels!

GGs deepblue

There's at least 2 or 3 things you can probably work on:

1) Ledge options - Your ledge game is poor. You only ever use drop down > fair > regrab or stand up, which neither is "wrong" but it's the only thing you ever do. You almost got Falcon Punched because of it. You need to mix up your ledge options or you WILL die. Some characters like Captain Falcon have very powerful spike or semi spike options and if they catch you on the ledge without invincibility then you will lose a stock.

2) Committing to random moves half a stage away - This is one thing I noticed you do. Often you'll just down air as Peach for no conceivable reason halfway across the stage. Committing is fine against some characters who can't close the gap, but if you're just down air'ing randomly then you'll get punished for it by things like Falcon fsmash.

3) Controlling space - As Peach you have a number of strong zone control tools. I don't think I once saw you toss a turnip upwards. I know this isn't Brawl or Melee where turnips were absurd, but I think you could be using them a bit better rather than just haphazardly throwing them at me. I generally just picked them up and threw them back.

Also man you gotta stop floating into random forward smashes and SD'ing.

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06/03/2015 07:16:05

Aerodrome said:
GGs

GGs. Thanks for your time. Also, thanks for the tips. Sometimes I seem to be doing things on autopilot, or just playing with bad habits. What would be the best way to practice to reduce/remove these?
As an aside, can you teach me the fox MU some other time? Thats something that I need to work on.

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06/03/2015 07:25:01

Everyone autopilots at some stage. It's a good habit to get rid of, but I do it way to often myself so I don't really have any advice on how to stop doing it. I suppose recognising your bad habits and then reminding yourself not to do it is the best way to stop but that's easier said than done. Plus, removing a bad habit will often have another one replace it, so you have to always be on guard.

My Fox is atrocious and I lose to Foxs anyway, so I don't think I'm the best person for that lol.

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06/03/2015 07:28:23

Thats fair enough. Thanks again for all your help today :)

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06/03/2015 08:28:54

Do you live in Sydney deepblue? A good way to remove bad habits is playing with good players often, there are constantly meets and tourneys in Sydney.
Theres probably going to be a meet at the UTS this weekend in the evening (either sat, sun or both) that I'll most likely be at, if you can make it along I'll set aside some time to play with you and help you learn the fox match up.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/sgtsmash/ - deets here

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06/03/2015 09:33:12

Atyeo said:
Do you live in Sydney deepblue?

Yeh I do, SGT Smash sounds great. I'll definitely come to some of these meets and tourneys.

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06/04/2015 01:08:48

Can i play somebody and then they can tell me how and why im the worst at this silly fucking game.

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06/08/2015 06:53:15

GIRL said:
Can i play somebody and then they can tell me how and why im the worst at this silly fucking game.

I would but I'm gonna cap my net over the next like, day for a week, so I'm not going to be able to play wifi on the Wii U (for Smash anyway).

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06/08/2015 07:12:21

Thanks, i'll try my best to work on that.

*post picture of that space ship with sunglasses you always post*

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06/08/2015 08:03:41

GIRL said:
Thanks, i'll try my best to work on that.

*post picture of that space ship with sunglasses you always post*

It's a Salamence with Choice Specs tyvm



I'll play you next week. From like, the 16th?

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06/08/2015 08:05:17

I think you'll find thats a space ship.

And ok neato. I've ordered a GC controller from amazon, so hopefully it will be here by then. I used my friends and im like 70% used to it. The god damn A,B,X,Y buttons are so different though, I had to map A to jump because that made the most sense to me.

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06/08/2015 08:08:22

.......... please don't map A to jump

I honestly need to probably start playing with tap jump. Maybe I'll get a new controller binding and learn it offline over the next week or so

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06/08/2015 08:11:05

I get judged by people for only using tap jump so if anyone wants tips on learning how to tap jump, I'm probably your man.

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06/08/2015 08:13:01

Maribro said:
I get judged by people for only using tap jump so if anyone wants tips on learning how to tap jump, I'm probably your man.

you get judged for using Yoshi with tap jump

Tap jump makes OoS options easier but it does make characters like Mario, Yoshi and anyone dependent on utilt/uair/up special impossible to use effectively.

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06/08/2015 08:16:19

A is like the centre button so me feels like its good to have in the middle or something. I don't know. What do people usually press to jump? And why would you prefer to have tap jump?

I personally hate the layout of the gcc, but at smash box i was getting a lot of interference between my wiimote and the wii(i use the classic controller pro usually). Something people had always warned me about but i didn't realise was true until I found all my inputs came out as smash attacks. I don't think it was from other wii motes but more from peoples mobile phones, because when i played the 3ds one at uni with friends, if one of us got a text or something with the phones it our pockets, the game would disconnect.

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06/08/2015 08:20:34

Aerodrome said:

Maribro said:
I get judged by people for only using tap jump so if anyone wants tips on learning how to tap jump, I'm probably your man.

you get judged for using Yoshi with tap jump

Tap jump makes OoS options easier but it does make characters like Mario, Yoshi and anyone dependent on utilt/uair/up special impossible to use effectively.

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It's only hard if you don't practice it. I'm perfectly capable of up tilting without flying around the stage like a crazed grasshopper.

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06/08/2015 08:20:36

what in sam hell does OOS mean?
You people use too many acronyms, what are you in such a damn rush for.

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06/08/2015 08:21:54

GIRL said:
A is like the centre button so me feels like its good to have in the middle or something. I don't know. What do people usually press to jump? And why would you prefer to have tap jump?

I personally hate the layout of the gcc, but at smash box i was getting a lot of interference between my wiimote and the wii(i use the classic controller pro usually). Something people had always warned me about but i didn't realise was true until I found all my inputs came out as smash attacks. I don't think it was from other wii motes but more from peoples mobile phones, because when i played the 3ds one at uni with friends, if one of us got a text or something with the phones it our pockets, the game would disconnect.

I use X to jump and Y to grab. You'll find most have similar setups.

If you really want A as jump though, I won't stop you.

GIRL said:
what in sam hell does OOS mean?
You people use too many acronyms, what are you in such a damn rush for.

Out of Shield.

You can cancel your shield with a jump, and during your jumpsquat animation (the frames before you're airborne) you can input a up special or up smash.

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06/08/2015 08:23:15

my only problem is i feel like some characters up B's are better if you still have momentum from your jump, like me thinks DK works that way, but he may not. And Its hard on the gamecube controller since the X and B buttons are practically in different rooms.

But everyone else can do it, im just dumb.

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06/08/2015 08:24:07

Joel (Exmantika) uses a as jump and he does fine. Maybe talk to him about his controller setup?

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06/08/2015 08:24:10

GiRL i bind jump to L for that reason , i use it when want to do OoS things because you are right it is uncomfortable to do it with default.

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06/08/2015 08:26:15

GIRL said:
my only problem is i feel like some characters up B's are better if you still have momentum from your jump, like me thinks DK works that way, but he may not. And Its hard on the gamecube controller since the X and B buttons are practically in different rooms.

But everyone else can do it, im just dumb.

Nah, I remember it took me like, 2 weeks to get used to GCN controls coming from Wiimote and Nunchaku, so don't worry about it too much.

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06/08/2015 08:26:51

im thinking i'll just set every button to jump and only kill people with foot stools.

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06/08/2015 08:26:59

GIRL said:
im thinking i'll just set every button to jump and only kill people with foot stools.

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06/08/2015 08:27:57

This guy gets me.

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06/08/2015 08:30:04