Alright, I've still got stuff to read, but IMO Mr.L is my target right now. He's attempted to start/participated in a total of 5 or 6 different bandwagons over the course of 2 days.
He started with targeting myself day one, acknowledging that I'm a good player yet still wanting me dead anyway, then shifted to frames and then corvid.
Then on day 2 you open with bijou targeting, followed by im not quite sure but looks like a switch back to myself again, followed by switching to LEF all within the same page.
Now i know you didnt actively vote for myself or bijou, but you make some strong implications, and looking at how you were the 2nd person to vote for corvid, if im reading aeros post count properly, certainly is a way to hide amongst the crowd, making people feel like its someone elses idea.
04/18/2016 12:00:59
I guess I cannot win, eh, being too active, to being too inactive.
When I was in mafia, I was at my most active, TYVM, about slightly more then when I wasnt, because my brain had more interest into the game.
Also If Laggy used his Lighting rod, and took the Mafia kill, all other night actions would also in theory have been directed towards him, so we are kinda back at Square 1 with what people might have found out during the night phase due to laggy pulling all attention towards himself.
And all we have left is who participated in the vote to lynch Corvid Day 1 + how the Bandwagon trends have occurred so far with the votes to lynch.
04/18/2016 13:14:44
When I was in mafia, I was at my most active, TYVM, about slightly more then when I wasnt, because my brain had more interest into the game.
Also If Laggy used his Lighting rod, and took the Mafia kill, all other night actions would also in theory have been directed towards him, so we are kinda back at Square 1 with what people might have found out during the night phase due to laggy pulling all attention towards himself.
And all we have left is who participated in the vote to lynch Corvid Day 1 + how the Bandwagon trends have occurred so far with the votes to lynch.
04/18/2016 13:14:44
I haven't particularly made many posts since i'm trying to get a grasp of the game, it's pretty difficult when arguements are flying back and forth and day 1 was basically void in this game due to the lightning rod. I don't believe cAKE is mafia though since making such bold claims like this early on seems just dumb, but the agression is a bit much. I also think Maribro is highly defensive about the subject which from what i've read might be an unusual trait (not sure if thats how he is acting differently but that's what i've seen so far)
04/18/2016 13:24:06
04/18/2016 13:24:06
Urisk said:The post on you was a bait, whether it was 'shitty' or not, it was not an passive vote.
Alright, I've still got stuff to read, but IMO Mr.L is my target right now. He's attempted to start/participated in a total of 5 or 6 different bandwagons over the course of 2 days.
He started with targeting myself day one, acknowledging that I'm a good player yet still wanting me dead anyway, then shifted to frames and then corvid.
Then on day 2 you open with bijou targeting, followed by im not quite sure but looks like a switch back to myself again, followed by switching to LEF all within the same page.
Now i know you didnt actively vote for myself or bijou, but you make some strong implications, and looking at how you were the 2nd person to vote for corvid, if im reading aeros post count properly, certainly is a way to hide amongst the crowd, making people feel like its someone elses idea.
I participated in the wagon on corvid to get him posting and voted for LEF so he'd actually participate.
As for bijou, I personally wouldn't have called it a soft vote but I spose you could call it something along the lines of that. I am a bit suspicious but not to the point I'd actually vote any time soon. Bringing you into that was just as an example of the scenario which could be at play (as someone previously mentioned a similar scenario if a good player like you or maribro were in mafia). Not a soft vote on you.
Bare in mind, the corvid, LEF and bijou matters were just to get them to participate, nothing more.
04/18/2016 22:35:28
I'm not sure if we should be letting cAKE off the hook this easily guys. He might not be maf, but he sure is acting a lot different to usual. It could be that some Maf are guiding him because they're trying to make a strong player look bad for an easy lynch. His response to my accusations was definitely not satisfactory and I think we should be pressuring him to justify what he did a little more.
04/18/2016 23:48:37
04/18/2016 23:48:37
There's just as big of a possibility that you are maf, though Maribro.
04/18/2016 23:53:11
04/18/2016 23:53:11
CubT said:
There's just as big of a possibility that you are maf, though Maribro.
There's a big possibility everyone is maf, CubT
04/18/2016 23:53:43
Why so condescending Maribro?
04/18/2016 23:56:10
04/18/2016 23:56:10
CubT said:
Why so condescending Maribro?
Because I know you love me deep down <3 I'm not saying we should lynch cAKE but at the very least we could get some answers. But if you guys don't think it's a good idea, I won't push it any further.
04/19/2016 00:00:02
cAKE is probably just on the rag, or something.
04/19/2016 00:00:08
04/19/2016 00:00:08
Damn okay a lot of stuff happened between when I was last on and now.
Awesome thanks for finding that, that was an interesting read. I hadn't thought of how the numbers would work in that particular way, I was just thinking about how many townspeople would be alive.
Great, now I'm attempting to participate more and you're being critical of me for it lol. I want to see what if cAKE responds with anything and based on what he says I may or may not place a vote on him too. I'm starting to think he has a lynch target on me or some sort of role since he's coming aggressively after me without a lot to go on.
Either that or he actually IS mafia. I've noticed that Mr L tends to be in support of cAKE's suspicion on me and not anyone else is really having a say on the matter. And Mr. L also mentioned it would be better to lynch someone inactive than active.
I'm 50 / 50 on that, but if we were to assume cAKE and Mr L were both mafia then it would make sense for Mr. L to try and direct people to lynch vote for other inactive players. At the same time though the reasoning that we should be lynching less active players and keeping the better / more active ones alive is a reasonable argument also.
04/19/2016 03:29:28
JonCheee said:
so i was curious about this play as well and i went to search for it in said mafia game 2. pretty interesting tbh
Awesome thanks for finding that, that was an interesting read. I hadn't thought of how the numbers would work in that particular way, I was just thinking about how many townspeople would be alive.
MrL said:Bare in mind, the corvid, LEF and bijou matters were just to get them to participate, nothing more.
Great, now I'm attempting to participate more and you're being critical of me for it lol. I want to see what if cAKE responds with anything and based on what he says I may or may not place a vote on him too. I'm starting to think he has a lynch target on me or some sort of role since he's coming aggressively after me without a lot to go on.
Either that or he actually IS mafia. I've noticed that Mr L tends to be in support of cAKE's suspicion on me and not anyone else is really having a say on the matter. And Mr. L also mentioned it would be better to lynch someone inactive than active.
I'm 50 / 50 on that, but if we were to assume cAKE and Mr L were both mafia then it would make sense for Mr. L to try and direct people to lynch vote for other inactive players. At the same time though the reasoning that we should be lynching less active players and keeping the better / more active ones alive is a reasonable argument also.
04/19/2016 03:29:28
Krasic hasn't posted since this day has started (17/4 11:58 AEDT) so I guess I should give him a warning and chase him up on Facebook.
04/19/2016 08:16:03
04/19/2016 08:16:03
Hello I am here I finished my community service (as shown in the shoutouts) and will gladly hop on the next lynching bandwagon.
VOTE: BOOZER YEAH?
04/19/2016 08:38:17
VOTE: BOOZER YEAH?
04/19/2016 08:38:17
The day ends on Sunday, I think that all of us just wait out the day, without blinding lynching again as it is day 2.
04/19/2016 10:28:30
04/19/2016 10:28:30
Apologies, didn't realize we were back into day phase.
I switched from no lynch to lynch because of solid reasoning given in particular by SpaceJam and Urisk explaining why day 1 lynch is important and it's more than just a game about statistics and how it gives us information on how people act etc. Doesn't it seem very anti-maf behaviour that I was ever calling for no lynch in the first place ignoring the fact that I was the initial target of it? I can see where your suspicion comes from however I had no reason to abstain from voting.
cAKE's also getting really agitated regarding people discussing him being mafia and being sarcastic about it, and he's getting very aggressive to those suggesting it, just something to watch out for. As Bijou said, Mr L is agreeing with cAKE on a lot of the points given so if cAKE does become proven mafia then Mr L should be high on suspicions
For now, to get some more information regarding why he's agitated
VOTE: cAKE
04/19/2016 10:32:01
I switched from no lynch to lynch because of solid reasoning given in particular by SpaceJam and Urisk explaining why day 1 lynch is important and it's more than just a game about statistics and how it gives us information on how people act etc. Doesn't it seem very anti-maf behaviour that I was ever calling for no lynch in the first place ignoring the fact that I was the initial target of it? I can see where your suspicion comes from however I had no reason to abstain from voting.
cAKE's also getting really agitated regarding people discussing him being mafia and being sarcastic about it, and he's getting very aggressive to those suggesting it, just something to watch out for. As Bijou said, Mr L is agreeing with cAKE on a lot of the points given so if cAKE does become proven mafia then Mr L should be high on suspicions
For now, to get some more information regarding why he's agitated
VOTE: cAKE
04/19/2016 10:32:01
How have I been "agreeing with cAKE on a lot of the points given".
I said that cAKE was playing how he usually does, but is still most likely incorrect with his suspicion of Maribro.
04/19/2016 11:55:50
I said that cAKE was playing how he usually does, but is still most likely incorrect with his suspicion of Maribro.
04/19/2016 11:55:50
You agreed with him on Bijou's suspicion and looking through most of his previous games he hasn't been immature or sarcastic when under pressure.
04/19/2016 12:03:46
04/19/2016 12:03:46
Vote: Cake
Once again I don't think you're mafia, but you're being unreasonably aggressive so I'm going to place my vote down in attempt to apply more pressure and possibly see a crack. I will revoke my vote once you have solid reasons against yourself being scum.
04/19/2016 12:20:37
Once again I don't think you're mafia, but you're being unreasonably aggressive so I'm going to place my vote down in attempt to apply more pressure and possibly see a crack. I will revoke my vote once you have solid reasons against yourself being scum.
04/19/2016 12:20:37
FramesJanco said:Yeah I admit I was a bit suspicious of Bijou because of the timing of becoming more active and such. I think he's good for now though.
You agreed with him on Bijou's suspicion and looking through most of his previous games he hasn't been immature or sarcastic when under pressure.
Yeah he is acting a bit more immature which is rather odd and should be looked into. However I stand by the fact that he's always been on the aggressive side.
I was going to note before but thought it'd be seen as backtracking, but during and after I made the post cAKE did make himself look a bit more suss.
I still won't vote to pressure him tho cos peeps would probably see that as a poor attempt to not seem scum.
I see how I could be seen as a bit suss for being more lenient with his behavior but I thought it necessary to maintain some sort of balance of judgement instead of it quickly tumbling into another bandwagon.
04/19/2016 12:29:20
yeah i think theres enough pressure on cake rn, let him respond properly
04/19/2016 12:34:05
04/19/2016 12:34:05
Could we get a votecount @dean and not @aero
04/19/2016 12:44:52
04/19/2016 12:44:52
Yeah Mr. L I'm pretty satisfied now that there's enough pressure on him to actually respond to my points satisfactorily
04/19/2016 12:46:27
04/19/2016 12:46:27
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!
Votes:
cAKE (5) - Maribro, Wooy, JonCheee, FramesJanco, InsertName71
LachlanF (2) - CubT, MrL
Not voted (9) - BattleDolphin, SpaceJam, HydroPimp, Urisk, cAKE, LachlanF, Bijou, Rhyno, Haiku
04/19/2016 12:46:32
Votes:
cAKE (5) - Maribro, Wooy, JonCheee, FramesJanco, InsertName71
LachlanF (2) - CubT, MrL
Not voted (9) - BattleDolphin, SpaceJam, HydroPimp, Urisk, cAKE, LachlanF, Bijou, Rhyno, Haiku
04/19/2016 12:46:32
We don't want to risk Haiku actually being laggy 2.0 :P
04/19/2016 12:47:09
04/19/2016 12:47:09
FramesJanco said:
Could we get a votecount @dean and not @aero
Is this because Aero made like multiple mistakes in his count when he did it?
Also yes let's wait for cAKE to respond before anything further happens, seems unlikely to be mafia but i would like some answers on the super aggression. We have until Sunday to make a vote if we actually are lynching this night right? I mean this day*
04/19/2016 14:37:01