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Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

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  3. Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win
"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1

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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
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5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
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Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 48 hours.
Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 48 hours upon which action will be taken.


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Well I'm bored and exam period is starting to slow down (well for me at least it is) so I thought I'd try and get these back started up. I can push start date back a bit if people are still busy with exams though.
Note: deadlines will be at 22:00 AEDT, in other timezones: 21:00 AEST, 21:30 ACDT, 20:30 ACST, 19:00 AWST and 0:00 NZDT.

Votes:
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
HydroPimp (4) - MrL, Extra, Windkeeper0, cjeccjec
Not voted (5) - HydroPimp, Ghostbone, InsertName, BastyTho, AutumnWind

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1.
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
LachlanF, Town Informed Bodyguard, lynched Day 2.
LuminousLucas, Town Watcher, killed Night 2.
SpaceJam, Town 1-shot Masonizer, killed Night 2.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3.
Rhyno, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3.
Invisi, Town Gunsmith, killed Night 3.
Aerodrome, Independent Bulletproof Killer, lynched Day 4.
EIS-DUON, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4.

Note:
Rhyno replaced BattleDolphin Day 2
LuminousLucas replaced Corvid Day 2
Extra replaced cAKE Night 4
Bijou 12/06/2016 22:15:47
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InsieVictoriaIke
264+ tourneys
3DS: 1306-7615-5260
So who did Spacejam Mason with
11/21/2016 08:45:57
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
he might have decided to not use it. since it was only day 2 and he wanted to choose wisely
11/21/2016 08:47:05
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Invisi said:
Looks like you guys decided to lynch Lachlan before I got home from the tournament on Sunday. Given how he defended himself, I'm not surprised - that claim was super suss. Fortunately, looking up the bodyguard role, it doesn't look much more powerful than a vanilla townie. Though I'm interested to know what the informed part means - I can't find any info on it.

Dean, Bijou, could one of you please clarify exactly what Lachlan's "informed" role means? If Lachlan knew something that we don't, I'm legit annoyed that he didn't, at the very least, decide to tell the town what he knew before dying so that we could use it knowing where it came from. On that note, I can't find info on the Masoniser role either. Could you clarify that one too?

Anyway, all this leaves the question of what do we do now - we're down to 15 players from 20 and we haven't started thinning the mafia yet. Obviously the first person to point the finger at is Aero. He clearly had it out for Lachlan and we still don't know why. All of his accusations were laced with memery, and in hindsight we didn't question his motives enough.

So, Aero, why exactly were you so adamant that Lachlan was mafia when we now know that's not the case?
Also I looked through Corvid and LuminousLucas' post histories, but I couldn't find any clues as to who they investigated night 1.


He wasn't informed on anything important I can tell you that,.
11/21/2016 08:48:04
Windkeeper0New South WalesLucina
1+ tourneys
Wii U: Windkeeper0
I tried to find something on the masonizer and found this. In the variations it states the masonizer role
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer&redirect=no#Variations

"A Mason Recruiter or Masonizer is a similar role for Masons. However, if a Masonizer targets someone who is not Town-aligned, the action will fail. Commonly, the Masonizer will also die in the process. This is a particularly powerful role when used."
11/21/2016 08:48:07
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
HydroPimp said:
Masoniser is lik mason role but they decide who to be mason with
That's an interesting role, though what would guarantee that the person he picked is not mafia? (Isn't that the whole point of the mason role?)

Either way, worth looking through his history to work out who he partnered with.
11/21/2016 08:48:23
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Hi guys, I wanted to actually respond before Lachlan got lynched but I was playing League sorry. I will respond to me being adamant that Lachlan was mafia:

Before I start though I did make a mistake, I'm sorry. I really really rEALLY though he was mafia based on his aggressive change in behaviour towards me "Aero is not mafia I trust him" to like "AERO IS MAFIA BURN THE WITCH" when he had no confirming information about me like that.

I was convinced he was mafia because he put up the most token of defenses, continued to accuse me of being mafia with 100% certainty, soft claimed, REFUSED to follow up on said soft claim AND when he actually had information, refused to give it before he was lynched. Instead opting to continue being anti-town with claims like "YOU CANT WIN WITHOUT ME!!!" and "YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER ON YOURSELF".
11/21/2016 08:48:42
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Maybe spacejam died trying to masonise with a mafia
11/21/2016 08:49:55
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
Also another night goes by with none of me/invisi/maribro/aero dying.

Clearly we're all part of the mafia kek.
11/21/2016 08:52:02
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
cjeccjec said:
He wasn't informed on anything important I can tell you that,.
You seem oddly sure of that. Are you just making the same conclusion as me but more strongly? Or is there something we don't know that you do?

11/21/2016 08:52:07
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Aerodrome said:
Hi guys, I wanted to actually respond before Lachlan got lynched but I was playing League sorry. I will respond to me being adamant that Lachlan was mafia:

Before I start though I did make a mistake, I'm sorry. I really really rEALLY though he was mafia based on his aggressive change in behaviour towards me "Aero is not mafia I trust him" to like "AERO IS MAFIA BURN THE WITCH" when he had no confirming information about me like that.

I was convinced he was mafia because he put up the most token of defenses, continued to accuse me of being mafia with 100% certainty, soft claimed, REFUSED to follow up on said soft claim AND when he actually had information, refused to give it before he was lynched. Instead opting to continue being anti-town with claims like "YOU CANT WIN WITHOUT ME!!!" and "YOU'RE MAKING IT HARDER ON YOURSELF".


Now normally I would bandwagon on aero because that was kinda the plan. However I was really betting on Lachlan being mafia. He honestly acted so dumb and i'm quite disappointed he was town. So unfortunately I don't think we can make a case solely based on Lachlan being town.
11/21/2016 08:52:22
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
My thoughts on last nights deaths also:

1) Someone really doesn't like LuminousLucas

2) If a one shot masonizer hits Mafia, are they killed instantly? I have some theories but I don't want to share them just yet before getting more information on this role.
11/21/2016 08:53:00
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Invisi said:
cjeccjec said:
He wasn't informed on anything important I can tell you that,.
You seem oddly sure of that. Are you just making the same conclusion as me but more strongly? Or is there something we don't know that you do?


I know something that you don't

11/21/2016 08:53:12
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Potentially many people in this game know things that others might not. Refrain from soft claims since they are anti-town, make you a target for mafia and do not help us identify the mafia at all.
ALSO SUPER IMPORTANT INFO

IF Masonizer doesn't kill people instantly when they try to mason with mafia, then that confirms 2 killing roles. Either an SK or a really bad vig.
11/21/2016 08:57:32
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Aerodrome said:
Potentially many people in this game know things that others might not. Refrain from soft claims since they are anti-town, make you a target for mafia and do not help us identify the mafia at all.


Yeah I probably went about saying it with a hostile tone. If you would like me to expand let me know. But I assure you it's not necessary.
11/21/2016 08:57:54
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
hey u edited not double post i saw that aero
what it was double post, dumb lighting
11/21/2016 08:58:17
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
HydroPimp said:
hey u edited not double post i saw that aero
I didn't edit.
11/21/2016 08:58:23
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
or a vig who wanted to meme luminous :P
11/21/2016 08:59:10
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Realistically Spacejam should have mason'd with someone night 1, or found a confirmed or almost confirmed townie to mason with. Seems like he didn't? Did someone become a mason on day 2 with Spacejam?
11/21/2016 09:00:35
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Since a number of people have asked:
An "informed" role is one that has information on the game set-up.
11/21/2016 09:00:58
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
dean said:
Since a number of people have asked:
An "informed" role is one that has information on the game set-up.
What about masonizer? Do they die if they target Mafia?
11/21/2016 09:01:54
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
Masonizer dies if they target Mafia.
11/21/2016 09:02:29
EIS-DUONVictoriaBanjo & Kazooie
558+ tourneys
Wii U: mas0nDrul3skii
3DS: 0619-6478-1600
Called Spacejam having a role...

1-0 Record

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So in my eyes Lachlan deserved to go with his idiotic defense of himself. I thought for a second he was Jester due to how poorly he defended himself, but someone here was adamant that Jester is dumb online and that Dean wouldn't add it in so I threw that theory away. This is not a 'terrible' loss because lets face it, what would this jobber help us with anyway?

Spacejam death seems to be due to the fact that he tried to masonise with a maf. If a Vig shot him then that was also a poor play and we're probably doomed.

Seems as if the Mafia isn't going for the power players in this game and that makes me suss on every one of them tbh. I'm still suss as shit on Invisi (so easily wanting Lachlan lynched and it turns out this dude has a power role increases my suspicions) I'd call money on at least 2/3 of them being Maf along with a lowkey dude like cjeccjec or Rhyno.

I personally feel like one of Ghost/Aero/Invisi has to die today or I'm not feeling safe tonight. I think Maribros fully town but he can die as well if ya'll would like

No hard reads atm other than my Invisi shot so lets just get Day 3 rolling hard as balls

Vote: Invisi
11/21/2016 09:03:40
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
If we don't get someone saying that they masoned with SpaceJam what are the chances he hit mafia?
11/21/2016 09:03:46
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
OK, so let's think of the players that Spacejam was likely to Mason with...
11/21/2016 09:04:39
EIS-DUONVictoriaBanjo & Kazooie
558+ tourneys
Wii U: mas0nDrul3skii
3DS: 0619-6478-1600
Ghostbone said:
Also another night goes by with none of me/invisi/maribro/aero dying.

Clearly we're all part of the mafia kek.


What is this insane double bluff, I'll remember this holy crap
11/21/2016 09:05:44
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