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Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

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"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1

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- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
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Well I'm bored and exam period is starting to slow down (well for me at least it is) so I thought I'd try and get these back started up. I can push start date back a bit if people are still busy with exams though.
Note: deadlines will be at 22:00 AEDT, in other timezones: 21:00 AEST, 21:30 ACDT, 20:30 ACST, 19:00 AWST and 0:00 NZDT.

Votes:
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
HydroPimp (4) - MrL, Extra, Windkeeper0, cjeccjec
Not voted (5) - HydroPimp, Ghostbone, InsertName, BastyTho, AutumnWind

Dead:
ThatLaggyPerson, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 1.
LuminousLucas, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 1.
LachlanF, Town Informed Bodyguard, lynched Day 2.
LuminousLucas, Town Watcher, killed Night 2.
SpaceJam, Town 1-shot Masonizer, killed Night 2.
Maribro, Vanilla Townie, lynched Day 3.
Rhyno, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 3.
Invisi, Town Gunsmith, killed Night 3.
Aerodrome, Independent Bulletproof Killer, lynched Day 4.
EIS-DUON, Vanilla Townie, killed Night 4.

Note:
Rhyno replaced BattleDolphin Day 2
LuminousLucas replaced Corvid Day 2
Extra replaced cAKE Night 4
Bijou 9 years ago
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InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
Oh I just saw Maribro's post. I must admit, the presence of a second killing faction is not unlikely, so I don't think we have enough info to convict him. But Spacejam's death makes him look super suss. I'll Unvote for now though.

May I also ask for mod clarification on whether a player contacted by a masoniser who subsequently died on the same night through other causes would receive notification of this contact?
9 years ago
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
Maribro said:
Just quickly before I go to work, Spacejam attempted to make contact with me via his masoniser role. As such it's likely there are two killing factions and whoever killed Luminous did so due to suspicions toward Corvid.

Well that was the stupidest post ever
9 years ago
deanVictoriaDuck Hunt Duo
81+ tourneys
Wii U: dean7599
3DS: 1435-4425-6023
If a masonizer dies on the night that they recruit someone the recruitment still takes place.
9 years ago
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
Just to clarify in my definitely-100%-hypothetical scenario that the targeted player is a townie.
Okay, thanks Dean.

So we have two possibilities. Either a serial killer killed Spacejam, or Maribro is mafia. Anything else is so unlikely it's not really worth considering imo.

Also we still have no idea why the mafia hate LuminousLucas so much. Some VIC beef I'm not aware of? Does InsertName secretly hate everyone in his scene? Is Duon next?
But jokes aside, it can't be coincidence that he's died twice in a row now.
9 years ago
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Ghostbone said:
Maribro said:
Just quickly before I go to work, Spacejam attempted to make contact with me via his masoniser role. As such it's likely there are two killing factions and whoever killed Luminous did so due to suspicions toward Corvid.


>Spacejam dies if he visits mafia
>Dies same night as visiting Maribro

Ummmmmmmm


Why would maribro claim this if we was Mafia? I thought invisi was calling him out on lying, that spacejam didn't contact him. But then... Hm
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Maribro said:
As such it's likely there are two killing factions and whoever killed Luminous did so due to suspicions toward Corvid.

2nd killing faction is likely town aligned, I don't think it's anything more than an unfortunate coincidence Lumi died twice.
9 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
I'm going to go play League of Lesbians now, I'll check the thread before bed and mention anything I think of.
9 years ago
EIS-DUONVictoriaBanjo & Kazooie
558+ tourneys
Wii U: mas0nDrul3skii
3DS: 0619-6478-1600
cjeccjec said:
Ghostbone said:
Maribro said:
Just quickly before I go to work, Spacejam attempted to make contact with me via his masoniser role. As such it's likely there are two killing factions and whoever killed Luminous did so due to suspicions toward Corvid.


>Spacejam dies if he visits mafia
>Dies same night as visiting Maribro

Ummmmmmmm


Why would maribro claim this if we was Mafia? I thought invisi was calling him out on lying, that spacejam didn't contact him. But then... Hm


THE DOUBLE BLUFFS MY DUDE
9 years ago
MaribroWestern AustraliaMr. Game and Watch
191+ tourneys
Wii U: Oceanblue44
Vote: Aerodrome

Still convinced he's mafia after everything that has happened. Would like to continue pressuring him.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
cjeccjec said:
Why would maribro claim this if we was Mafia? I thought invisi was calling him out on lying, that spacejam didn't contact him. But then... Hm


It's a bluff, if hypothetically someone from town was watching maribro for example, they'd see that spacejam visited him and died.
And now that we know spacejam's role, that looks very bad for maribro.
9 years ago
KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
56+ tourneys
Oh my god, I just realized that it's Day 3! I probably should have checked the thread more frequently, huh. Well, this is definitely an interesting situation. I was so certain that Lachlan would be Mafia and I'd be next.

I think Aero is the most likely to be Maf right now. My reasoning is that since Aero has been in multiple games, wouldn't he know that Lachlan doesn't really give a shit about Mafia? It's fairly reasonable to say that Lachlan was doing stupid things because he didn't care. I'm gonna go with Maribro on this one and pressure Aero.

VOTE: Aerodrome
9 years ago
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
Okay, so what I've made of the whole Maribro saying he was visited was spacejam is this.

These are our possibilities:
1. He's telling the truth, and he's mafia
2. He's telling the truth, he's town, and there is indeed an SK.
3. He's bluffing, and he's pulling an insane mindgame tactic with mafia.

Now with number one, I'd say it's least likely. Maribro is a strong player and he would never do that if he's telling the truth and he's mafia. I think anyone with a brain wouldn't do that option. So people may be going "If he's mafia, why did he do it then?!" That's where option three comes into place. Knowing maribro this wouldn't be that unlikely.

The benefit of possibility three for Maribro is that he basically gets an escape option out of every pressure situation that is to come later in the game, using this as prime evidence. He's basically saying "I'm town so there is definitley an SK.

Possibility Two is still not out of the question, however. Maybe he is indeed just a townie and there is definitley a third party faction that can kill.

Although, if Possibility 2 is correct, this still seems a bit too convenient.


I'm leaning towards he's bluffing, but I won't leave he's town out of the question.
9 years ago
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
cAKE said:
These are our possibilities:
1. He's telling the truth, and he's mafia
2. He's telling the truth, he's town, and there is indeed an SK.
3. He's bluffing, and he's pulling an insane mindgame tactic with mafia.
You can rule out possibility 3 - looking at Spacejam's post history, he made it abundantly clear that he intended to target Maribro last night.

Maribro suggesting the second killer last night was town aligned is kinda suspicious, but also possibly ignorant. As I said earlier, any reasonable vigilante would not have acted last night, or if they did they definitely would not have targeted either of the players who died. The only reasonable second faction is a serial killer.
9 years ago
KiwifruitKoalaQueenslandMarth
56+ tourneys
I'm going to sleep now. There's a tourney coming up on Saturday, so I'll be going to sleep at around 9 this week.
9 years ago
GhostboneSouth AustraliaSteve
336+ tourneys
Wii U: FreeGothitelle
SpaceJam said:
inb4 maribro is maf and kills me during the night lmao


Just gonna quote this cos it's very relevant
9 years ago
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Ghostbone said:
SpaceJam said:
inb4 maribro is maf and kills me during the night lmao


Just gonna quote this cos it's very relevant


Oh damn.

Also I've just re read the last few things and I'm only so clues less and such a bad reader / interpreter at times >.<
9 years ago
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
it is way more likley maribro is maf than maf targeted spacejam/ lucas aswell as another party that hit both of those and in order for there to be 2nd killing role they would have missed night 1 which is also unlikely. 2 unlikley vs 1 likely im thinking maribro is probably mafia
9 years ago
RhynoVictoriaPokémon Trainer
26+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2480-4766-7898
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 2921-9105-5321
Holy, that was a lot to read.

After the events of the night I'd like to think there is either a serial killer or two mafia factions, it's not unlikely with 20 people. There is also now the possibility that night 1 the mafia targeted a stronger player who was mafia traitor or the medic was successful?

Also the fact that Lucas died twice in a row must mean someone believes he is either really good or just doing it out of spite.

At the moment I would like to still place some pressure on Aero at least because he really did try to redirect attention on to someone else and most specifically Lachlan despite other players also voting for him beforehand.

I was thinking about voting for him but i think 2/8 is enough pressure at the moment.
Also I forgot to ask, did Spacejam Mason with you night 1 or 2 Maribro?
9 years ago
cjeccjecQueenslandCaptain Falcon
311+ tourneys
Wii U: cjeccjec
3DS: 0018-1766-9226
Rhyno said:
Holy, that was a lot to read.

After the events of the night I'd like to think there is either a serial killer or two mafia factions, it's not unlikely with 20 people. There is also now the possibility that night 1 the mafia targeted a stronger player who was mafia traitor or the medic was successful?

Also the fact that Lucas died twice in a row must mean someone believes he is either really good or just doing it out of spite.

At the moment I would like to still place some pressure on Aero at least because he really did try to redirect attention on to someone else and most specifically Lachlan despite other players also voting for him beforehand.

I was thinking about voting for him but i think 2/8 is enough pressure at the moment.
Also I forgot to ask, did Spacejam Mason with you night 1 or 2 Maribro?


Just curious and a little off topic but are you bijou's brother or something? Cos ya both have the same nnid.
9 years ago
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
cjeccjec said:
Just curious and a little off topic but are you bijou's brother or something? Cos ya both have the same nnid.


Roommates?
9 years ago
InsieVictoriaIke
264+ tourneys
3DS: 1306-7615-5260
I doubt Maribro is mafia but as Hydro pointed out it makes sense mathematically.
Im so conflicted
9 years ago
cAKEQueenslandRoy
26+ tourneys
Wii U: MakingcAKE82
3DS: 0748-3964-5420
InsertName said:
I doubt Maribro is mafia but as Hydro pointed out it makes sense mathematically.
Im so conflicted

What makes you think he's not mafia? If you actually look over his post history he really hasn't been saying much of substance, just long posts summarizing what's been happening over the day. The only things he's been 'proposing' are just hammering townies.

Everyone just has that general stigma that Maribro has to be town, right? I think he took advantage of that in his post saying there must be an SK because he has to be town. I've always thought people are trusting Maribro a little too much and not bothering to investigate or pressure him as he's the one who's doing all that.
Marbiro is a smart player, and I wouldn't be suprised if he was mafia. I had my suspicions before, but that last statement got me leaning towards that he's maf. Not voting just yet, as it's not strong enough, bu the math is against you, Maribro.

9 years ago
InsieVictoriaIke
264+ tourneys
3DS: 1306-7615-5260
I guess im just in denial
Ill re read his posts to see for my self
9 years ago
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Lmao Maribro tryna say I'm mafia to misdirect everyones attention elsewhere.

I'll get the ball rolling I guess.

Vote: Mariboro
SpaceJam said:
inb4 maribro is maf and kills me during the night lmao

This is the most damning post in this thread.

Personally I'm reading this as "if Maribro is Mafia I'll die because I targeted him".

Maribro also made no mention of becoming a mason.

100% maf and should be lynched today.
9 years ago
InvisiNew South WalesJigglypuff
225+ tourneys
Switch: SW-3299-6796-0489
People keep theorycrafting about what went on last night, but I really don't think there's any theorycrafting left to be done. I've said all this before, but let me explain my points again more clearly. In my mind, there are only two likely possibilities:

1. There is a single killing faction, the mafia. There is no serial killer. Maribro is a member of the mafia. The mafia has targeted LuminousLucas two nights in a row (for some reason that's worth looking into later). Spacejam died as a result of attempting to contact Maribro, who is a member of the mafia.

2. There is an independant killing faction (a serial killer) in addition to the mafia. One of these factions failed to make a successful kill during the first night. Spacejam's death is unrelated to Maribro's alignment, and it was merely coincidence that one of the killing factions targeted him on the same night that he decided to contact Maribro.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a combination of the above two (eg. a serial killer exists but failed to kill two nights in a row, and Spacejam died from contacting mafia), but such a combination theory would bring in unnecessary complications which aren't worth considering in our current situation because they aren't helpful to consider (see: Occham's Razor).

Any other possibility (town aligned vigilante action, second mafia faction, etc) I personally consider as so unlikely that I'm willing to rule them out completely. (I have already explained why I rule out the possibility of a town aligned vigilante acting last night).
HydroPimp said:
it is way more likley maribro is maf than maf targeted spacejam/ lucas aswell as another party that hit both of those and in order for there to be 2nd killing role they would have missed night 1 which is also unlikely. 2 unlikley vs 1 likely im thinking maribro is probably mafia
This point is actually super relevant, and I had a similar thought myself this morning. The coincidences involved in my second point above (it requires the coincidence that a killing faction made a failed attempt on the first night, and that a killing faction targeted Spacejam last night) leads me to believe that such a scenario is unlikely.

Furthermore, the only reason we are considering such a scenario is because it is the only way in which Maribro could be town. He did a good job of convincing most of us he was town (ironically enough it was his trustworthiness that got Spacejam to target him and subsequently raise suspicion), but we have to let go of this preconceived notion that he's a town member. Because, looking at the likely scenarios, he's probably not.

Vote: Maribro
9 years ago
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