I have already declared several times that I believed both Atyeo and cAKE to be innocent. All I did last night was miss my one shot heal. I wasn't sure who to save last night but I expected that it was either going to be pazx or Atyeo that was being targeted. I guessed wrong. We also have to assume that whoever killed cAKE did so on the basis that they believed him to be Mafia.
OR
Alternatively we have a serial killer in our midsts
02/22/2016 22:08:24
this is not good
maribro, what is the specific title of your role?
02/22/2016 22:10:01
maribro, what is the specific title of your role?
02/22/2016 22:10:01
Pazx said:
this is not good
maribro, what is the specific title of your role?
Jack of all trades.
02/22/2016 22:13:52
and your claim is that you are 1-shot vigilante, 1-shot tracker and 1-shot doctor, with only the vigilante power remaining?
02/22/2016 22:19:58
02/22/2016 22:19:58
Pazx said:
and your claim is that you are 1-shot vigilante, 1-shot tracker and 1-shot doctor, with only the vigilante power remaining?
That is correct
02/22/2016 22:20:32
ty for the protection champ, we got unlucky i guess
here are the possibilities that i can see:
1. you are lying, possibly about your alignment and possibly about your actions last night
2. we have a second vig, possibly with a # shot modifier - neither cake nor atyeo were particularly suspicious, so i don't like this. the most suspicious thing luke did was vote for deez but not for laggy, otherwise he seemed strongly pro-town. i had pretty null reads on cake, but at least he was trying.
3. we have a serial killer, but if so, why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person as the mafia?
4. we have a mafia-aligned "vig" (arsonist?) - this is incredibly unlikely as there was no kill on night 1, the only way i could see this being possible is if the mafia agreed to only use 1 kill on the first night to hide their second killing role, and then they targeted the same player that was being protected
5. we have two rival mafia factions, but why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person? can a doctor even stop two nightkill attempts?
@dean, if a player is targeted by 1 protective role (doctor/jailkeeper/etc.) and multiple killing roles (mafia/sk/vig) on the same night, do they die? would your answer change if it was a 1-shot protective role? 6. any combination of the above
02/22/2016 22:39:40
here are the possibilities that i can see:
1. you are lying, possibly about your alignment and possibly about your actions last night
2. we have a second vig, possibly with a # shot modifier - neither cake nor atyeo were particularly suspicious, so i don't like this. the most suspicious thing luke did was vote for deez but not for laggy, otherwise he seemed strongly pro-town. i had pretty null reads on cake, but at least he was trying.
3. we have a serial killer, but if so, why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person as the mafia?
4. we have a mafia-aligned "vig" (arsonist?) - this is incredibly unlikely as there was no kill on night 1, the only way i could see this being possible is if the mafia agreed to only use 1 kill on the first night to hide their second killing role, and then they targeted the same player that was being protected
5. we have two rival mafia factions, but why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person? can a doctor even stop two nightkill attempts?
@dean, if a player is targeted by 1 protective role (doctor/jailkeeper/etc.) and multiple killing roles (mafia/sk/vig) on the same night, do they die? would your answer change if it was a 1-shot protective role? 6. any combination of the above
02/22/2016 22:39:40
Maribro why didnt you use your protection on Atyeo??? He was pretty clearly the biggest target. Who did you choose to save?
02/22/2016 22:39:43
02/22/2016 22:39:43
he chose to save me apparently
02/22/2016 22:39:55
02/22/2016 22:39:55
Oh you picked pazx I guess
02/22/2016 22:40:52
02/22/2016 22:40:52
addition to #4 - the other possibility is that the mafia (with 2 killing options) decided to not kill anybody to bait the call for the doctor (@maribro, looking at you, are you scum or did you take the bait?) and then make up for the no-kill (so to speak) on night 2.
02/22/2016 22:42:51
02/22/2016 22:42:51
Most likely scenario is that there's a 1 shot vig in the game, I'm just wondering whether it was cAKE or Atyeo that got shot by the vig Atyeo was the more likely Mafia target, so the vig might have shot cAKE out of suspicion. Motive is yet to be determined
02/22/2016 22:45:44
02/22/2016 22:45:44
It would be nice if JLo confirmed if he targeted anyone on the first night instead of giving vague wishy-washy answers. Wouldn't the confirmation that he did/didn't help prove if Maribro is scum or not?
02/22/2016 22:47:13
02/22/2016 22:47:13
if you are town and you shot cake/atyeo it's okay to come forward by the way, i don't like your play (because you suck and hit an obvious townie lol) but you'd be claiming a confirmed town role and it'd be worth keeping you alive
02/22/2016 22:47:15
02/22/2016 22:47:15
Pazx - whether a protective role protects from all kills or just one kill during a night is up to the moderator, and I'm not quite willing to part with that information :p, you can find out by asking one with a protective role
02/22/2016 22:49:15
02/22/2016 22:49:15
I knew that either Atyeo or Pazx would be the target. I already named Atyeo as my #1 target for mafia attack so I was hoping this would dissuade them into pulling the trigger on him so I could use my vote on you. Unfortunately, they either didn't care or didn't read what I posted.
1) There's no overwhelming evidence I'm lying or telling the truth. You just have to trust me.
2) LEF voted for cAKE so that's kinda suggestive of who it might have been.
3) Possible but idk what the serial killer would have to gain out of killing pro townies. At the end of the day, they just wanna kill everyone.
4) seems unlikely but possible. Kinda harsh from dean if so given how many newbies we have.
5) Is this a thing that happens? Sounds very unlikely
6) who knows.
02/22/2016 22:49:56
Pazx said:
ty for the protection champ, we got unlucky i guess
here are the possibilities that i can see:
1. you are lying, possibly about your alignment and possibly about your actions last night
2. we have a second vig, possibly with a # shot modifier - neither cake nor atyeo were particularly suspicious, so i don't like this. the most suspicious thing luke did was vote for deez but not for laggy, otherwise he seemed strongly pro-town. i had pretty null reads on cake, but at least he was trying.
3. we have a serial killer, but if so, why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person as the mafia?
4. we have a mafia-aligned "vig" (arsonist?) - this is incredibly unlikely as there was no kill on night 1, the only way i could see this being possible is if the mafia agreed to only use 1 kill on the first night to hide their second killing role, and then they targeted the same player that was being protected
5. we have two rival mafia factions, but why was there no kill on night 1? did they target the same person? can a doctor even stop two nightkill attempts?
@dean, if a player is targeted by 1 protective role (doctor/jailkeeper/etc.) and multiple killing roles (mafia/sk/vig) on the same night, do they die? would your answer change if it was a 1-shot protective role? 6. any combination of the above
1) There's no overwhelming evidence I'm lying or telling the truth. You just have to trust me.
2) LEF voted for cAKE so that's kinda suggestive of who it might have been.
3) Possible but idk what the serial killer would have to gain out of killing pro townies. At the end of the day, they just wanna kill everyone.
4) seems unlikely but possible. Kinda harsh from dean if so given how many newbies we have.
5) Is this a thing that happens? Sounds very unlikely
6) who knows.
02/22/2016 22:49:56
Aerodrome said:
It would be nice if JLo confirmed if he targeted anyone on the first night instead of giving vague wishy-washy answers. Wouldn't the confirmation that he did/didn't help prove if Maribro is scum or not?
Alright fine.
I'm vanilla townie. If Maribro was telling the truth, he did target me and I didn't have a power role, so his tracking came out negative.
But there's also the possibility that he's lying about tracking me, and just happened to guess right that I'm a townie, a possibility that I still don't want to rule out.
02/22/2016 22:49:59
There's no way a townie would have shot atyeo or cake, they were so incredibly obviously town to me. cAKE unwittingly confirmed himself town not realising other vanilla townies weren't also Villagers. And atyeo has been pro town the entire time.
02/22/2016 22:50:39
02/22/2016 22:50:39
JLo said:
Aerodrome said:
It would be nice if JLo confirmed if he targeted anyone on the first night instead of giving vague wishy-washy answers. Wouldn't the confirmation that he did/didn't help prove if Maribro is scum or not?
Alright fine.
I'm vanilla townie. If Maribro was telling the truth, he did target me and I didn't have a power role, so his tracking came out negative.
But there's also the possibility that he's lying about tracking me, and just happened to guess right that I'm a townie, a possibility that I still don't want to rule out.
OR you're mafia that didn't actually do anything on that given night.
I don't think you are mafia but the likelihood of you being scum is as high as the likelihood I am as far as I am concerned.
02/22/2016 22:56:04
i think i believe maribro's claim as he's been trying to draw attention away from atyeo and myself (proven town players) for almost the entire game. he could have just been buddying up to us though, that can't be ruled out. if he is town, there is no reason to lie about his powers, either. by extension i trust jlo, but marginally less.
i'd like to hear from everybody before we get into voting today by the way, maybe somebody will come forward and claim vig. i especially want to hear more from those who have been relatively quiet, and those who have avoided voting entirely. we should also look closely at people on each of the wagons, if there are people that were supportive of the deez lynch but opposed to the laggy lynch then it's likely they were mafia, although they could be acting the opposite way to distance themselves from laggy and avoid lynching town.
in rough order of most to least quiet:
corvid
hydropimp
barry
wooy
windkeeper
talk pls boys
02/22/2016 22:59:44
i'd like to hear from everybody before we get into voting today by the way, maybe somebody will come forward and claim vig. i especially want to hear more from those who have been relatively quiet, and those who have avoided voting entirely. we should also look closely at people on each of the wagons, if there are people that were supportive of the deez lynch but opposed to the laggy lynch then it's likely they were mafia, although they could be acting the opposite way to distance themselves from laggy and avoid lynching town.
in rough order of most to least quiet:
corvid
hydropimp
barry
wooy
windkeeper
talk pls boys
02/22/2016 22:59:44
And to add to that, we went from being 1 kill ahead of mafia to being 1 behind. Lynching anti-town players is not an option anymore, so please speak up lurkers.
02/22/2016 23:01:49
02/22/2016 23:01:49
VOTE: JLo
02/22/2016 23:07:18
02/22/2016 23:07:18
I didn't change my vote from cAKE last time as I didn't get a chance as I didn't have my laptop on me till yesterday afternoon and we were already in the night phase.
02/22/2016 23:42:46
02/22/2016 23:42:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPo1dgrHms
02/22/2016 23:55:07
02/22/2016 23:55:07
Hello everyone, apologies for the inactivity.
I'd like to reveal myself as a Town-aligned Vigilante. I was hesitant to reveal myself but there has been a lot of talk about a Vigilante, so I guess now is as good of a time as ever. The character I am is Ness, and I have the ability to use my powerful back-throw to kill a player at night. However, to avoid stale move negation, I can't use this power consecutively.
On Night 1, I targeted Corvid. However, as you all know he didn't die, which strongly suggests to me that Corvid may have been Mafia, and if he was, then the Mafia have a doctor. How I came to this conclusion was that Corvid was by far the most suspicious player on Day 1 and the Mafia doctor had no-one else to protect as no-one else was really showing any signs of being possibly Mafia. I don't think it is possible that the town doctor saved Corvid as there were no deaths on that night, unless the Mafia decided to kill no-one. However, this is only a possibility. It could be that Corvid had a role such as bulletproof, whether he be town-aligned or Mafia aligned.
As I stated before, I cannot use my power on consecutive nights, so I could not have killed Atyeo or cAKE. From this evidence I think there may be another role in play such as serial killer. I know this theory has a lot of flaws such as why no-one was killed Night 1.
Also sorry there may be some typos as I rushed this because I wanted everyone to know asap
02/22/2016 23:57:51
I'd like to reveal myself as a Town-aligned Vigilante. I was hesitant to reveal myself but there has been a lot of talk about a Vigilante, so I guess now is as good of a time as ever. The character I am is Ness, and I have the ability to use my powerful back-throw to kill a player at night. However, to avoid stale move negation, I can't use this power consecutively.
On Night 1, I targeted Corvid. However, as you all know he didn't die, which strongly suggests to me that Corvid may have been Mafia, and if he was, then the Mafia have a doctor. How I came to this conclusion was that Corvid was by far the most suspicious player on Day 1 and the Mafia doctor had no-one else to protect as no-one else was really showing any signs of being possibly Mafia. I don't think it is possible that the town doctor saved Corvid as there were no deaths on that night, unless the Mafia decided to kill no-one. However, this is only a possibility. It could be that Corvid had a role such as bulletproof, whether he be town-aligned or Mafia aligned.
As I stated before, I cannot use my power on consecutive nights, so I could not have killed Atyeo or cAKE. From this evidence I think there may be another role in play such as serial killer. I know this theory has a lot of flaws such as why no-one was killed Night 1.
Also sorry there may be some typos as I rushed this because I wanted everyone to know asap
02/22/2016 23:57:51
W-what...? If there was a serial killer in this game, then that means THREE deaths somehow were prevented on night 1...
02/23/2016 00:04:27
02/23/2016 00:04:27