I'll share my opinion as Spacejam specifically asked for it.
I'm finding it difficult to cast suspicion on anyone at the moment because reading through everyone's posts, it just feels perfectly crafted. It seems everyone wants Laggy to speak up as their posts have been very minimum compared to the last game too.
One thing I'd like to say though is that I've been noticing that JLo keeps voting and unvoting quite a bit, which is just an observation from me. Though the conclusion I can make from that is that they want to progress discussion.
Also I'd like to hear more from Ghostbone.
12/30/2016 23:44:05
Vote: Unvote
12/31/2016 00:43:56
12/31/2016 00:43:56
VOTE: LuminousLucas
I just want this day over. Also i want to vote for Lucas because of the summary Windkeeper0 gave. Also wouldnt mind pressuring Corvid because he hasnt said much
12/31/2016 01:33:50
I just want this day over. Also i want to vote for Lucas because of the summary Windkeeper0 gave. Also wouldnt mind pressuring Corvid because he hasnt said much
12/31/2016 01:33:50
Murk, "I just want this day over" is very poor reasoning for voting and is very mafia-like. Your other reason, being windkeeper's summary is simply not that strong either in my opinion.
12/31/2016 02:02:51
12/31/2016 02:02:51
Murki this is not good reasoning, we all have good reason to believe you are town but this kind of attitude towards the game is anti town.
I get it you may not be that interesting in the game but this is no excuse.
Try adding your own outlook if you can, otherwise don't try to come off as so disinterested. It makes you look like you're trying to rush the day, which is a Mafia trait.
As for what I have to say about luminous Lucas, as long as he continues to post like this I'll keep my vote off him. Howver, I would still like to see you use your votes more.
Remember luminous we are all (except for Maf obviously) out of the blue. We don't have all that much evidence. We have to pick a target and poke and prod for information, it's how we do it.
We can make claims and try to get people to speak up but without the pressure of being voted and lynched, it doesn't won't do much.
I had reasons to vote for ghost but I can't quite put it into words on my phone because I can't crosscheck his posts and other posts easily.
I'll get this post out then go on my computer and have a look.
Vote: Unvote
I feel like Ghost has been acting a lot like he was in the last game. He plays a very convincing town, but there are small things which tip me off. Specifically this.
(I copied and pasted this from Ghost's profile so I hope I did it correctly, I aint going back looking for this post just to quote it.)
The last paragraph specifically where he asks for the roleblocker to claim is what made me suspicious. Now to be fair this actually got us a lot of helpful information and made for some really good discussion.
The reason i'm suspicious is because while it is very helpful for town, I dare say mafia would also like this information so they know what happened at night. So it would benefit him to create this discussion, firstly it makes him look pro town and secondly it would be a fair trade off even if one town gets sub confirmed (bijou)
Besides this, I feel like his general discussion isn't too great. He chimes in with some info every now but I feel (not exactly sure what it is besides being similar to last game) as if he is carefully trying to create discussion that he know won't help town or is only useful enough to safely keep him under the mafia fire radar.
I tried my best to voice my suspicions and give the reasoning behind it. I'm having trouble trying to get my exact points out of my brain and into words... but here is what I could do.
Also this would've been out faster but I had to help my mum cook hah
Vote: Ghostbone
12/31/2016 03:55:41
I get it you may not be that interesting in the game but this is no excuse.
Try adding your own outlook if you can, otherwise don't try to come off as so disinterested. It makes you look like you're trying to rush the day, which is a Mafia trait.
As for what I have to say about luminous Lucas, as long as he continues to post like this I'll keep my vote off him. Howver, I would still like to see you use your votes more.
Remember luminous we are all (except for Maf obviously) out of the blue. We don't have all that much evidence. We have to pick a target and poke and prod for information, it's how we do it.
We can make claims and try to get people to speak up but without the pressure of being voted and lynched, it doesn't won't do much.
I had reasons to vote for ghost but I can't quite put it into words on my phone because I can't crosscheck his posts and other posts easily.
I'll get this post out then go on my computer and have a look.
Vote: Unvote
I feel like Ghost has been acting a lot like he was in the last game. He plays a very convincing town, but there are small things which tip me off. Specifically this.
Ghostbone said:
I doubt theres very much interesting we can find from MrL's posts, I've already looked through them, he was just trying to go for easy lynches ending with lachlanF.
Obviously open to other people's analysis though.
In terms of targeting mafia or SK, lynching the SK would obviously be preferable as we go down to 1 town death each night (SK is most likely to hit townies while alive simply because there's more town than mafia).
Not that Corvid is 100% the SK, do we have any other leads though? (besides very vague accusations towards Duon, though I can't say I'm not suspicious of him either)
We'd need the potential roleblocker to claim and let us know who they roleblocked (if that's what prevented the mafia kill), any trackers/watchers probably can't give us much conclusive info because there's probably a bunch of townies with night roles.
(I copied and pasted this from Ghost's profile so I hope I did it correctly, I aint going back looking for this post just to quote it.)
The last paragraph specifically where he asks for the roleblocker to claim is what made me suspicious. Now to be fair this actually got us a lot of helpful information and made for some really good discussion.
The reason i'm suspicious is because while it is very helpful for town, I dare say mafia would also like this information so they know what happened at night. So it would benefit him to create this discussion, firstly it makes him look pro town and secondly it would be a fair trade off even if one town gets sub confirmed (bijou)
Besides this, I feel like his general discussion isn't too great. He chimes in with some info every now but I feel (not exactly sure what it is besides being similar to last game) as if he is carefully trying to create discussion that he know won't help town or is only useful enough to safely keep him under the mafia fire radar.
I tried my best to voice my suspicions and give the reasoning behind it. I'm having trouble trying to get my exact points out of my brain and into words... but here is what I could do.
Also this would've been out faster but I had to help my mum cook hah
Vote: Ghostbone
12/31/2016 03:55:41
Just posting to say that I might not be active until Janurary 2nd as I'll be away.
12/31/2016 04:20:33
12/31/2016 04:20:33
Maribro said:I agree that my analysis wasn't nearly as detailed as the ones I've done in other games, looking at it now. If I do another one of these I'll explain my points fully.
I mean, all you've really done here is say "this person is pro town/this person hasn't said much. When I used to write these types of things I would explain why I felt this way and what that made me think of the person. You really need to be a bit more detailed with an analysis like this because nobody has any reason not to play pro-town and you need to think about what it is exactly that's making you feel that they're pro town. If you really think hard about why you think they're pro town, it could give you solid grounding to really confidently say "This person is probably town" or "although this person has acted pro town, some of their behaviour has been flaky/they've received undeserved support as a townie (this could be maf trying to confirm their buddy as town and hoping town just agrees). Same also goes for people that aren't posting. Why aren't they posting and what does that tell me.
tl;dr be more critical and thoughtful in your analysis @everyone.
On another note I agree that we need to pressure Laggy to talk since he has been so quiet in this game.
Vote: ThatLaggyPerson
12/31/2016 04:36:45
Oh true I keep forgetting about laggy. He probably forgot he was alive lmao. (.-. I mean... I did)
Because I've made my case on Ghost I won't vote laggy. I'd say a little more on laggy and do my usual checkup but I don't have much time lately.
12/31/2016 05:42:34
Because I've made my case on Ghost I won't vote laggy. I'd say a little more on laggy and do my usual checkup but I don't have much time lately.
12/31/2016 05:42:34
I've been pretty chill in modding for the holiday period, but after New Years I'll start calling people up to post more. :)
12/31/2016 05:58:46
12/31/2016 05:58:46
Well, I can see that my reasoning was not very good. Also being bad at the game doesnt make you anti town, it just means ur a bad player (which is what i am)
12/31/2016 07:27:29
12/31/2016 07:27:29
Vote: Laggy
Sitting back and trying to avoid everything makes sense for what the Mafia would do and i want to get the ball rolling.
12/31/2016 07:35:19
Sitting back and trying to avoid everything makes sense for what the Mafia would do and i want to get the ball rolling.
12/31/2016 07:35:19
VOTE: Unvote
VOTE : Corvid
I've actually wanted to pressure/vote Corvid for a while. He is normally inactive and rarely says anything of use. (But then again so do I, but normally stay more active than him)
12/31/2016 07:36:40
VOTE : Corvid
I've actually wanted to pressure/vote Corvid for a while. He is normally inactive and rarely says anything of use. (But then again so do I, but normally stay more active than him)
12/31/2016 07:36:40
Murkiri you're actually doing so many things that are considered anti town right now.
-Wanting days to end quickly
-Using the bad player excuse
-Changing Votes somewhat frequently
-Claiming to be more pro town than someone else
Lmao I know that you are good but it's just funny
12/31/2016 07:39:42
-Wanting days to end quickly
-Using the bad player excuse
-Changing Votes somewhat frequently
-Claiming to be more pro town than someone else
Lmao I know that you are good but it's just funny
12/31/2016 07:39:42
okay, tbf ive havent been posting that much because it is simply day 2.
were in a position where we suspect someone, and when they do their defense, we usually believe it. although all the defenses are good (I believe in duon, lucas has some solid defense) we should start consider faults in peoples defense. we shouldnt be on duon/lucas right now.
I would like to start some pressure on hydro, because he usually only replies when he is under L-2/L-1, then goes quiet. I also think corvid is somewhat sus, he usually goes quiet when there is no pressure. but for right now:
VOTE: hydropimp
also muriki, why do you want the day to be over? day 1 I understand, but your making yourself sus
12/31/2016 08:14:01
were in a position where we suspect someone, and when they do their defense, we usually believe it. although all the defenses are good (I believe in duon, lucas has some solid defense) we should start consider faults in peoples defense. we shouldnt be on duon/lucas right now.
I would like to start some pressure on hydro, because he usually only replies when he is under L-2/L-1, then goes quiet. I also think corvid is somewhat sus, he usually goes quiet when there is no pressure. but for right now:
VOTE: hydropimp
also muriki, why do you want the day to be over? day 1 I understand, but your making yourself sus
12/31/2016 08:14:01
ThatLaggyPerson said:
okay, tbf ive havent been posting that much because it is simply day 2.
ThatLaggyPerson said:
also muriki, why do you want the day to be over? day 1 I understand, but your making yourself sus
Um, what?
You just said you weren't taking the game seriously cos it's only day 2 and then called someone out for... Not taking day 2 seriously?
vote: thatlaggyperson
12/31/2016 08:19:03
ThatLaggyPerson said:
okay, tbf ive havent been posting that much because it is simply day 2.
were in a position where we suspect someone, and when they do their defense, we usually believe it. although all the defenses are good (I believe in duon, lucas has some solid defense) we should start consider faults in peoples defense. we shouldnt be on duon/lucas right now.
It is not "simply day 2". We have a mafia dead and a couple of people have claimed power roles. You have more than enough material to work with.
You gotta do better than that fam.
12/31/2016 08:21:02
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Current mood after reading that post
12/31/2016 08:21:08
Current mood after reading that post
12/31/2016 08:21:08
Also ffs guys stop using the "I'm bad at the game" card as a defense. It makes you look less credible and other players are less inclined to find weight in your statements in the future.
12/31/2016 08:24:31
12/31/2016 08:24:31
sorry jlo im rly bad at the game so my denfense is rly bad.
12/31/2016 08:43:11
12/31/2016 08:43:11
um
yeaaa consider this:
we have 1 mafia dead, n 1 town dead. with insert, muriki and duon all being somewhat town, we have a 2 in 16 chance in hitting a bad (assuming 3 mafia and no 3rd party)
the number could be easily 4 or 5/16 (4 or 5 mafia with a 3rd party)
this game could be over soon, depending on who we lynch n if mafia/3rd party kill towns
(this will be probs useless soon so yea)
still maintaining that corvid and hydro are sus
12/31/2016 09:33:25
yeaaa consider this:
we have 1 mafia dead, n 1 town dead. with insert, muriki and duon all being somewhat town, we have a 2 in 16 chance in hitting a bad (assuming 3 mafia and no 3rd party)
the number could be easily 4 or 5/16 (4 or 5 mafia with a 3rd party)
this game could be over soon, depending on who we lynch n if mafia/3rd party kill towns
(this will be probs useless soon so yea)
still maintaining that corvid and hydro are sus
12/31/2016 09:33:25
Happy new year. Vote: ThatLaggyPerson
12/31/2016 13:06:36
12/31/2016 13:06:36
SpaceJam said:
Happy new year. Vote: ThatLaggyPerson
thanks
12/31/2016 13:07:41
take it from fucking laggy to call a defense good or bad. How do i only reply at l-2 or l-1 did you not see my a+ level defense post im really angry at you right now i was so happy with my defense and somehow n ovotes went away on me. In my eyes the people who voted for me are sus not me. Invisi voted for me to get things going and that's okay but within minutes of my response laggy joined to bandwagon. All this did was make me waste my energy giving the reasons i was town which should have been obvious to a lot of people despite nobody else actually saying it. As for Lucas, I think has been doing pretty poor defense if you ask me. Like okay you have been quiet because you dont wanna die like last game but that doesn't mean you cant contribute to town. Like dean said a town that contributed but dies day 2 is better than a bad one that lives to the end. I actually dont see how laggy can call lucas' and duons solid, lucas' had no justification and duon's was just a claim. It seems laggy just bases his criticism on a good defense to if the rest of town stopped voting. My defense was so called invisible because he thinks i only reply when on l-1 or l-2 (his justification for voting for me, which is him trying to get rid of attention from himself) and votes remained on me while lucas' and duon's defense removed voters so he calls them solid. Him saying their defense was good just because votes were removed is him trying to relate to the town and pretend to agree to the town. Why did people doubt me when I didn't have faith in Murkri acting protown despite obviously being town. He is getting impatient, joining the first bandwagon he sees to get the day overwith. Knowing full well he can pretty much do whatever he wants and doesn't have to ever fear pressure from town. Hopefully Insert can remind him what side he is on. Laggy's trying to fit into town so badly and will just agree with anything they are saying. People start saying what Murkiri is saying is bad, his next post is "also muriki, why do you want the day to be over?". This was added after his post, meaning that he added it and it wasn't in his initial thought but he added it just to try and appear just the little bit more like town.
Vote:Laggy
We have to remember, it is laggy. Even if he is town he would still make terrible attempts to appear town rather then doing the easier thing and actually being town. We know from past games Laggy just doesn't know how to be town
12/31/2016 13:40:21
Vote:Laggy
We have to remember, it is laggy. Even if he is town he would still make terrible attempts to appear town rather then doing the easier thing and actually being town. We know from past games Laggy just doesn't know how to be town
12/31/2016 13:40:21
happy new year hydropimp!!!!!!!!!
12/31/2016 13:43:07
12/31/2016 13:43:07
take it from fucking laggy to call a defense good or bad. How do i only reply at l-2 or l-1 did you not see my a+ level defense post im really angry at you right now i was so happy with my defense and somehow n ovotes went away on me. In my eyes the people who voted for me are sus not me. Invisi voted for me to get things going and that's okay but within minutes of my response laggy joined to bandwagon. All this did was make me waste my energy giving the reasons i was town which should have been obvious to a lot of people despite nobody else actually saying it. As for Lucas, I think has been doing pretty poor defense if you ask me. Like okay you have been quiet because you dont wanna die like last game but that doesn't mean you cant contribute to town. Like dean said a town that contributed but dies day 2 is better than a bad one that lives to the end. I actually dont see how laggy can call lucas' and duons solid, lucas' had no justification and duon's was just a claim. It seems laggy just bases his criticism on a good defense to if the rest of town stopped voting. My defense was so called invisible because he thinks i only reply when on l-1 or l-2 (his justification for voting for me, which is him trying to get rid of attention from himself) and votes remained on me while lucas' and duon's defense removed voters so he calls them solid. Him saying their defense was good just because votes were removed is him trying to relate to the town and pretend to agree to the town. Why did people doubt me when I didn't have faith in Murkri acting protown despite obviously being town. He is getting impatient, joining the first bandwagon he sees to get the day overwith. Knowing full well he can pretty much do whatever he wants and doesn't have to ever fear pressure from town. Hopefully Insert can remind him what side he is on. Laggy's trying to fit into town so badly and will just agree with anything they are saying. People start saying what Murkiri is saying is bad, his next post is "also muriki, why do you want the day to be over?". This was added after his post, meaning that he added it and it wasn't in his initial thought but he added it just to try and appear just the little bit more like town.
Vote:Laggy
We have to remember, it is laggy. Even if he is town he would still make terrible attempts to appear town rather then doing the easier thing and actually being town. We know from past games Laggy just doesn't know how to be town
12/31/2016 13:43:31
Vote:Laggy
We have to remember, it is laggy. Even if he is town he would still make terrible attempts to appear town rather then doing the easier thing and actually being town. We know from past games Laggy just doesn't know how to be town
12/31/2016 13:43:31