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Super Smash Bros Ultimate Themed Mafia | Games Over! Town Wins!

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  3. Super Smash Bros Ultimate Themed Mafia | Games Over! Town Wins!
Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf

Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-game-over.308/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/smash-bros-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.316/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-smashbox-v-edition-game-over-vic-and-nsw-mafia-win.323/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-pokken-edition-game-over-town-wins.331/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-users-of-qld-smash-edition-day-5.337/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/co-hosted-fire-emblem-mafia-game-over-mafia-win.344/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/mafia-is-back-game-over-mafia-win.385/43#Post83014
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/sun-and-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.386/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/paper-mario-thousand-year-door-themed-mafia-day-2.1388/1
https://qldsmash.com/Forum/Thread/banjo-kazooietooie-mafia-its-a-draw.1390/1
https://ausmash.com.au/forum/thread/ultra-sunultra-moon-themed-mafia-game-over-town-wins.2399/6#post93315
https://ausmash.com.au/forum/thread/ausmash-forum-mafia-the-revival.2404/1
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Rules:
1. Unless your role specifically states otherwise, no communication about the game takes place outside of this thread. This includes both players and non-players.
- This applies to Discord, shoutouts, Twitter, real life, etc. It is not fair for you to receive information (even basic things like player reactions) that other players don't have.
2. No quoting or partial quoting mod PMs, or faking a quoted mod PM in this thread (including screenshots).
You MAY state your role / alignment
You MAY PARAPHRASE your abilities, copy-paste from role PM is not allowed
You MAY NOT try to force others about the specifics of their mod PMs
3. Editing posts is not allowed. Double-post if need be.
4. Make your votes clear and easy to see. VOTE: Boozer is good.
You may change your vote, vote for no lynch and unvote as needed.
5. Lynching occurs once a majority has been reached.
6. If no majority has been reached upon the deadline, no lynch takes place.
7. Thread will be locked during the night phase until the next day phase.
8. Dead players cannot post in this thread. If a dead player had a role that let them communicate privately, they are to cease doing that.
9. Character claiming is allowed.

We've provided our scum with some safeclaims so don't expect it to be a breaking strategy.

Deaths only show a players alignment and character.

Days have a deadline of two weeks. Nights have a deadline of 72 hours.

Inactive players with no prior notice will be given notice after 72 hours, action will be taken if they continue to not respond. (Usually mod kill after 3 warnings)

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Smash Ultimates been out for a month now, so it's about time to have a game themed around it!

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Survivors (8): DD, Blaze, JEANS, Invisi, Bijou, JonCheee, Exist, Windkeeper0

Dead Players (13):
Night 0: Deez - Town-Alligned Lucario (Flavour Kill)
Day 1: Duon - Neutral Incineroar (Mod Killed)
Night 1: Extra - Town-Aligned Rosalina (Burnt)
Night 1: Maribro - Town-Aligned Pokemon Trainer (Shot)
Day 2: Glace - Town-Aligned Wii Fit Trainer (Mod Killed)
Day 2: Insie - Mafia Dark Pit (Lynched)
Night 2: MrL (Night Killed)
Day 3: Asa - Mafia Game & Watch (Lynched)
Night 3: Aerodrome - Town-Aligned Isabelle (Shot)
Night 3: Dean - Mafia Piranha Plant (Burnt)
Day 4: Atyeo - Mafia King K.Rool (Lynched)
Night 4: ThatLaggyPerson - Town Aligned Palutena (Burnt)
Day 5: Boozer - Neutral Bowser Jr. (Lynched)
Day 6: Voltz - Neutral Bowser (Lynched)

Player Changes
Day 1: Asa replaces Varous

Mod List:
Battledolphin
Rhyno
Rhyno 02/16/2019 03:57:37
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SebPro101VictoriaROB
421+ tourneys
Switch: SW-6363-7326-3322
Wii U: Mamapic
3DS: 4398-9556-9909
epic game
01/28/2019 05:35:09
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
SebPro101 said:
epic game


Guys we have an intruder.
01/28/2019 05:45:17
RhynoVictoriaPokémon Trainer
26+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2480-4766-7898
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 2921-9105-5321
SebPro101 said:
epic game

Please refrain from posting on this thread if you are not participating.
01/28/2019 05:49:16
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
DD said:
Yeah tbh i am forgetting occasionally about this, i only remember after a tourney when i got to do character data
But i dont think thats a valid excuse since its in the back of my mind


Since you're probably going to get lynched anyway you should probably reveal what your power role is (if you have one) before you die by the way. Wouldn't want to lynch a good power role if you have one.
Rhyno said:
SebPro101 said:
epic game

Please refrain from posting on this thread if you are not participating.


Get him to replace Glace lol
01/28/2019 05:54:22
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
I asked sebpro if he wanted to replace glace but he said no :(
Bijou said:
Get him to replace Glace lol

01/28/2019 06:07:01
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
vote: sebpro101
01/28/2019 08:03:25
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
It's day 1 so everything below can be taken with a grain of salt, but this is how I'd imagine mafia would be anti-town would be thinking:

1 of the mafia, or the SK (maybe both? but I don't think so) are trying to be out of the spotlight and contributing minimally, and also not joining or pushing for a lynch (or waited a long while to vote).

I think 2 would likely be pushing for DD to be lynched. Generally I don't think they'd necessarily start the bandwagon, but Duon deflecting a bandwagon on varous/laggy and instead starting it on DD while being absent since is interesting.

On that note, Blaze's play is also interesting to me. This is Blaze's first game of forum mafia and even mafia in general afaik. I think how he's playing fits in well with his inexperience, but I also think he's actively learning or being taught how to play mafia. Running with that train of thought i'd say it'd make most sense that someone is teaching/guiding him.

The potential last mafia I think would likely try to split off in terms of their behaviour, either start a different bandwagon or join one, this points me at the 3 who've voted for laggy. I think bijou's reasoning has made sense and exists follow-up vote is insignificant, but Voltz's behaviour has interested me a lot too. He's very familiar with mafia and is quite good at it too, often leading discussion himself and is probably the most experience in qld. Obviously this is forum mafia which is different, and he's been in Hawaii so the shift in playstyle is understandable but I'd like to see how his play develops throughout the game.

His latest post tried to shift the focus onto Laggy and Exist and suggesting they are in cahootz with each other, which is an odd connection to make and also attempts to lynch players who are more active than players such as DD, Duon, etc. Interestingly, despite his change in playstyle, he suggested that they may be playing differently because of the mafia role/discord, perhaps something similar to insert's remark about the hammerer?

He then continues to disassociate himself from the DD bandwagon and instead follow bijou's vote on laggy (who exist also voted for?).

Voltz has always made a remark about me in almost all his posts which could very well be because we know eachother, but could also be some insurance where if he gets found to be mafia, people could link us together through remarks he's made.
01/28/2019 08:33:13
JEANSVictoriaDark Samus
85+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5485-9707-1496
can we kill laggy instead lol i agree with bijou now on the whole dd probably town lgaggy probably dumb too but more likley mafia than dd
vote;laggy
01/28/2019 09:05:08
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
MrL said:
I think how he's playing fits in well with his inexperience


What do you mean by this?
01/28/2019 09:15:57
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Aside from yourself previously stating "i obviously dont have the experience you guys have so please correct me if im wrong", I think the lack of knowledge/experience shows through asking what flipping town means and admitting you don't know what to look for is what comes to mind.

Pretty understandable and normal but strange in contrast to you being confident in some areas, such as asserting that there'd be 4 mafia, SK, Vig, arsonist (all roles I doubt would be heard of in a normal mafia sitting with friends), and knowing to lynch day 1 and not asking why (every new player has done this).

I agree with Extra that he's a quick learner but from experience he asks many questions which haven't been asked here. You could argue that you've listened to what people have to say and absorbed information/knowledge, but that would make more sense to me if there were questions asked to better understand why. The general inexperience but understanding of various things makes me think this process has happened, but behind the scenes and not here. Perhaps in a discord?

There are also a couple inconsistencies in your play too such as not wanting varous to be lynched because of the potential skills that could be brought to the table, but wanting DD to be lynched.
01/28/2019 09:54:36
JonCheeeWestern AustraliaShulk
49+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5112-5382-9630
Wii U: JonCheee
3DS: 1220-6465-9143
i'm fine with lynching either laggy or dd, though changing my vote probably wont do much right now. either way, we can have a lynch target for day 2 if we need it.
01/28/2019 09:57:04
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Upon reflection of Blaze's activity and my general thoughts I'm choosing to reject the push to lynch DD as it's unlikely he's mafia and would have more resistance if he was.

I vote: Blaze because I'd rather follow my instincts and have a better chance of hitting mafia this way, the same way how Bijou feels about Laggy over DD. I'd prefer Laggy over DD as well but I think Blaze is an even better bet.
01/28/2019 10:09:56
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
Lets hope this post works

Aerodrome said:
There should be 4.5 threats to town.


MrL said:
Would you think that'd mean 3 mafia and 1 vigilante (or perhaps 4 mafia with 2 roles that could kill?)


Quotes such as these made me know there would be 4 mafia and possibly one other threat to town, also when the game started I read up a bit about possible roles https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles_Main_Page and such, also watched some people play ToS to try and get a general gist of how the game works from a persons POV (Admittedly didn’t learn much, and saw how ToS is basically the same concept as maf but is pretty much a entirely different game on its own)
MrL said:
and knowing to lynch day 1 and not asking why (every new player has done this).


Blaze said:
Sorry im pretty new to mafia, so im just tryna pick up on how things particularly work, why lynch day 1?


This is on page 5, i asked why lynch d1

also i agree there is some inconsistencies in my plays, but notice the fact that varous had literally made one post “Vote Boozer sounds like a loser” whereas DD shows that he has indeed been reading the forum but choosing to not post, lurking and being inactive are two different things, and imo lurking seems more anti town.

Would you like me to elaborate on anything else?


01/28/2019 10:47:43
Ben_GoldQueenslandKing K. Rool
201+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2890-3115-0043
Wii U: Benjamin01
Pretty content with your response, only thing I’d add is varous’ only contribution is the opposite of potential value/skills. DD’s behaviour isn’t pro-town but if he was mafia he’d have an easy out which he hasn’t taken.

I’m interested in your suspicion of invisi also, is it purely because of his memeing of me from the previous game, or is there more to it than that? Glace has done the same but you didn’t press him on that
With Aero and myself thinking of what anti-town could/should be, what made you assert that were are 4 mafia? Also interesting that you’d be sure of that, but when it came to information mafia would not know you were unsure.
01/28/2019 11:13:27
AtyeoAustralian Capital TerritoryFox
67+ tourneys
Wii U: GogoGogic
alright so I've skimmed over the last few days, there is quite a bit of info here but I think its too much, I'm not going to study it all in depth so I'm not gonna post a list of who I think who is, also because I dont want to then get killed and have my list used against me like we did to glace last game, but mostly because I cbf'd reading that much stuff.

Some of the stuff I was gonna bring up isn't really relevant anymore, for instance at some point aero was being questioned because of the way he was playing but he was playing the same way he plays everygame, including last game, but the conversation has moved beyond that now.

Can I get a quick tldr on why we are voting for DD (aside from being a filthy bowser player)

01/28/2019 11:14:49
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
MrL said:
Pretty content with your response, only thing I’d add is varous’ only contribution is the opposite of potential value/skills. DD’s behaviour isn’t pro-town but if he was mafia he’d have an easy out which he hasn’t taken.

I’m interested in your suspicion of invisi also, is it purely because of his memeing of me from the previous game, or is there more to it than that? Glace has done the same but you didn’t press him on that


I guess you're right, i was just thinking maybe varous had something to contribute to the forum in the end. Also even you said it, DD being possibly disinterested is because he hasn't gotten mafia (or a worth-while town role) I know its a long shot but DD being inactive could be a strategy of his, to try and make people turn away from him as mafia, (like hes done to you). Thats my take on the DD situation

I guess i was just nitpicking at the Invisi thing, i thought his fuck ben golds couldve had a deeper meaning.


01/28/2019 11:16:41
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Atyeo said:
alright so I've skimmed over the last few days, there is quite a bit of info here but I think its too much, I'm not going to study it all in depth so I'm not gonna post a list of who I think who is, also because I dont want to then get killed and have my list used against me like we did to glace last game, but mostly because I cbf'd reading that much stuff.

Some of the stuff I was gonna bring up isn't really relevant anymore, for instance at some point aero was being questioned because of the way he was playing but he was playing the same way he plays everygame, including last game, but the conversation has moved beyond that now.

Can I get a quick tldr on why we are voting for DD (aside from being a filthy bowser player)


I think it's really just because he's being inactive (but lurking).

The other candidate worth pursuing is maybe Insie based off Dean's small analysis.

Do you have any other lynch candidate ideas? I value your opinion more than most at least.
01/28/2019 12:01:45
DDVictoriaWario
495+ tourneys
Switch: SW-0834-0821-3223
Wii U: 56luigi
3DS: 0490-5963-9945
Cause someone asked I do have a power role but i dont think its amazing so i'd rather die to mafias hands than town lynch almost like bait.
01/28/2019 13:49:58
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Unvote
01/28/2019 13:53:41
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
DD said:
Cause someone asked I do have a power role but i dont think its amazing so i'd rather die to mafias hands than town lynch almost like bait.


If you're actually town aligned there is a 0% chance the mafia will choose to night kill you.

Revealing what your role and character is might make people change their mind about lynching you though so if you are actually town aligned then I'd recommended saying something now. Dead players speak no words.
Atyeo said:
Can I get a quick tldr on why we are voting for DD (aside from being a filthy bowser player)


I'm pretty sure it's just a "he's inactive and confirmed lurker and is therefore sketchy" kind of argument. Don't think anyone has any actual anti town reads on him beyond that.
dean said:
Hammerer seems like a strange role to bring up in a passing conversation considering we've not had one in our forum games before; so the "again i haven't played this for about 2 years" part seems weird. Think he just scrolled through the wiki and picked a random vote-modifying role?

Aerodrome said:
The other candidate worth pursuing is maybe Insie based off Dean's small analysis


Incidentally as suss as I am of laggy, I think Insie mentioning a hammerer actually needs way more attention.

I'm pretty sure I've never even played a game with a hammerer, so if we've ever used that role it must have been ages ago.

It's super suss to bring it up out of the blue. Sounds like he knows something.
01/28/2019 14:23:51
AerodromeQueenslandWolf
96+ tourneys
Well let's see how good dean is at scum guessing day 1.

Vote: Insie
01/28/2019 14:26:38
BijouVictoriaBowser Jr.
29+ tourneys
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 0001-3329-7885
Vote: Insie

This definitely requires an explaination.
01/28/2019 14:26:47
RhynoVictoriaPokémon Trainer
26+ tourneys
Switch: SW-2480-4766-7898
Wii U: ShadowRhyno
3DS: 2921-9105-5321
Duon has responded finally.

He can't check the thread until he gets to a computer.

So he won't be killed this time.
01/28/2019 14:39:49
JonCheeeWestern AustraliaShulk
49+ tourneys
Switch: SW-5112-5382-9630
Wii U: JonCheee
3DS: 1220-6465-9143
yay dd said something of use. blind trust is a heck of a thing, time to join this wagon

vote insie


01/28/2019 16:09:09
BlazeQueenslandNess
41+ tourneys
Switch: SW-4733-6751-5217
@Mr L sorry didnt see your second post, I assumed like itd be more of a percentile thing such as town will consistently be 20/25% mafia, aswell as the posts quoted in my previous posts with people stating that thered be 4.5 threats to town
01/28/2019 22:38:58
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