Super Smash Bros. 4 tier list discussion

Anybody who thinks that Megaman is bottom tier is in for a rude shock.Posting my demo tier list which I know I LAG doesn't agree with.

1. Megaman that Dair
2. Pikachu quick, jolt is still good and quick attack is buffed
3. Link better recovery, attacks link together more, quite strong
4. Mario very good at close range but gimpable recovery
5. Villager lots of disjoint but easily telegraphed kill moves

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09/30/2014 10:44:41

pikachu cant ko

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09/30/2014 11:17:24

but he can gimp

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09/30/2014 11:18:46

cant edge hog

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09/30/2014 11:24:48

At ~90% Pikachu can UThrow -> Thunder Vilager, and the Thunder spikes them down to the second hit. I think they can DI out, but it's something to consider.

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09/30/2014 11:29:54

and he's light

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09/30/2014 11:32:37

Complete guess, but this'd probably work on Bowser at 120-140%

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09/30/2014 11:35:49

the new thunder spike on pikachu is so crazy when you get caught in it. i have trouble following the trajectory of pain when you get knocked down and into pikachu then out sideways.

people should use thunder to edgeguard now imo. has anyone noticed as pikachu you can make thunder go a little bit through the edge? like about a character width in and the thunder goes through on the FD mode in the demo.

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09/30/2014 11:40:30

bowser has super armor during throw animation

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09/30/2014 11:42:10

DK has his roll and his dwnB works in the air = DK>Others

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09/30/2014 20:35:33

Rosalina can do all the B's in the air

Rosalina <3

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09/30/2014 21:02:31

Who are you guys seeing as high tier atm? All i see in for glory 1v1 is sheik, lil mac, duck hunt dog.

I'm finding bowser, charizard and lil mac really easy to do well with.

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10/04/2014 09:13:53

I vs'd this one guy three times. He used lil Mac, zss, cap'n falcon
That's all I've played

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10/04/2014 14:32:46

Japanese tier list
http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=157256

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10/05/2014 00:02:09

^for context, the above was made mostly looking at the results of a 120-man tournament they had recently apparently

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10/05/2014 00:11:05

Hey emery have a look at the Event hubs tier list

http://www.eventhubs.com/tiers/ssb4/

Any tier list that puts Little Mac as the worst character in the game is completely fake.

I wouldn't mind making a QLD Smash weekly tier list for the hilarity of it. All tier lists i see this year i'm calling bull on.

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10/05/2014 11:00:00

why's bowser so low

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10/05/2014 11:04:25

why is rosalina #1...

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10/05/2014 11:05:13

cos she's not little mac

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10/05/2014 11:07:58

Bowser gets juggled by anyone that can juggle or has a fast dash grab. Play eltons rosalina and then you will see the potential bullshit she will become. She's the new mk :(
she's like megaman, villager and duckhunt dog combined to make the triforce that is rosalina

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10/05/2014 11:08:14

rosalina so good

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10/05/2014 11:48:30

Rosalina is strong, but she suffers a lot against characters that can safely rush her down without being caught by Luma. Once you understand how Luma works, it's easy to make quick work of her.

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10/06/2014 01:14:13

I think it's pretty universal now that Rosalina is considered high tier, possibly top.

Also think it's funny that SOME PEOPLE complained about the demo characters being underpowered, and now all Australian tourneys (WA / VIC / QLD) have been won by demo characters.

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10/19/2014 14:48:58

I wonder how much the custom moves will shake up the possible tier list.

Rosalina is definitely top tier. I reckon Lucario is going to be pretty high too. I feel like Megaman could turn out to be really really strong too. Still early days though.

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10/19/2014 15:27:13

S tier:
Lucario

Ganon tier:
Everyone else

Awful tier:
Mega Man

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10/27/2014 09:42:13