dean said:
I'll have a good post up soon, but in the meantime cjeccjec Lachlan was scum in Smashbox (3rd game) and in Qldsmash users.
Thanks for the info was just about to start searching so this will save me my time. c:
12/16/2016 12:30:46
Thanks for the info was just about to start searching so this will save me my time. c:
12/16/2016 12:30:46
The fact that Lachlan appears to be playing poorly leads me to believe that he's town since he always makes himself look so anti town.
I'd be more suspicious of him if he was playing well because he'd be getting advice from his other mafia players and therefore be playing out of character.
12/16/2016 12:47:04
I'd be more suspicious of him if he was playing well because he'd be getting advice from his other mafia players and therefore be playing out of character.
12/16/2016 12:47:04
TIL I'm really bad at going through old Mafia games. Like horrendous. I'll try again on my laptop later (tournament tomorrow so not sure when :c). I just don't know what I'm looking for lmao, plus I don't get the natural feeling of knowing how the game flowed
12/16/2016 12:52:33
12/16/2016 12:52:33
Bijou said:
MrL said:
Also regarding Dean and Bijou saying Spacejam is playing differently, could you please elaborate? It could be that you guys know him more and stuff, but other than him being arguably less active than last game I would've thought he's playing pretty similarly
I'll have to go back and really compare how he's playing now vs. how he has played in the past to give you a really solid answer, my instincts are just telling me something is off about his play so far is all. Will post later about it after I finish work, but yeah something just feels different and I'm not sure how to substantiate it right at the minute. Maybe Dean can give you a better reply in the mean time.
Apologies for not replying to this, I must've missed it while I was writing my other post.
Anyway, having a quick look through SpaceJam's posts: https://qldsmash.com/User/SpaceJam?page=1
His first post was random vote for AutumnWind (fair enough) Sunday afternoon and then about six fluff/shitposts until Tuesday night when he started to get called out for it.
I feel this Day 1 action is different to past games such as the most recent one (where he hounded Laggy hard) and Fire Emblem (where he was constructive and didn't really shitpost).
Man I wish I'd played SuMo already I have no idea what Lachlan's trying to say.
OK I think mostly cjeccjec and somewhat Luminescent have brought up OK points for why Lachlan isn't mafia. Not sure I agree with Bijou's latest post as a) daytalk for mafia is actually non-standard (although we have usually had it in our forum games so far) and b) Lachlan's best performance so far was probably in Smashbox mafia where he was both 1. completely in character and 2. mafia.
The thing with Murkiri is that rather than lurking, I think he just doesn't check the thread (I have nothing to substantiate this though) which as a player and especially as a moderator is what annoys me most (why do you people sign up if you're not going to play ANGRY REACT, Insert probably coerced him into it).
So rather than voting to try and get him to speak, I would vote him for either a) you actually think he's mafia or b) policy lynch because no other leads.
...and honestly I think I might agree with both those options. I'm not sure I have any stronger scumreads at this moment, might have a look through tomorrow. But for now: VOTE: Murkiri
I'm thinking there are Brisbane and Melbourne tournaments on tomorrow?
12/16/2016 13:24:30
Anyway speaking of going back through old mafia games, I went back through a few of Spacejam's ones to see if I could pick anything out of character. Having reviewed this I notice Dale tends to normally play quite carefree and meme quite a lot. The important part is that majority of his posts feel like they were thrown together without much thought. And they tend to be on the short side quite often.
He started out this game like normal, but in the last couple of days his posts seem much more calculated to me. So far this game he has posted 3 significantly long posts; these are on pages 7, 10 and 12. In previous games I could only find him long posting once or twice per game tops.
Not to discourage from making long useful posts of course, but the way he has been doing it is out of character to his usual game style. It's not the length that is the main factor here anyway, but the content of these posts appears more carefully constructed to me - effort is being put into them. Something that Spacejam normally lacks when playing mafia.
If you want proof, please take note of this:
If we take all the capital letters here you will note it spells out: DEAN IS A TSV CUCK D
This is still fairly weak evidence by the way, however this is the best I can do to justify my gut feeling that the way Dale is playing thus far has been odd.
I'm feeling for you in that you're all drugged up and stuff though man but it's hard to say for sure if they're going to effect your game or not. If anything they should be making you play even less carefree than normal (maybe?) but instead you're putting in a lot of extra effort. Sorry actually his post spells out DEAN IS A TSVL CUCK D. Not sure what TSVL and D are.
The point I was making was we can't lynch Lachlan just based on the fact he is rubbish at defending himself because he's always rubbish at doing it lol
When making a lynch we have to take into account how good they are as a player when analysing any anti-town things they may have done. In the past few games I think town have been too quick to lynch people based on a few anti-town things that they may have done by mistake without thinking.
12/16/2016 13:41:15
He started out this game like normal, but in the last couple of days his posts seem much more calculated to me. So far this game he has posted 3 significantly long posts; these are on pages 7, 10 and 12. In previous games I could only find him long posting once or twice per game tops.
Not to discourage from making long useful posts of course, but the way he has been doing it is out of character to his usual game style. It's not the length that is the main factor here anyway, but the content of these posts appears more carefully constructed to me - effort is being put into them. Something that Spacejam normally lacks when playing mafia.
If you want proof, please take note of this:
SpaceJam said:
Damn English is hard on these drugs, i'm gonna reread the thread because i forget A lot lately
Now a person i wouldn't mind hearing from IS Luminescent A bit more. The only thing they've posted about wanting a no lynch really. Seeing as this is their first game of mafia as well they could be trying to hide? i have no feelings about him at the moment but not posting seems to be a dangerous game.
Vote: Luminescent Can you please join the discussion?
Unimpressed with Corvid/murkiri/lachlan though. Keeping us up to date with what they're thinking is a good way to help us out. perhaps explaining why you think someone is suss would allow others to take you more seriously.
other than that Ill be off my painkillers tomorrow so that will be swell.
also i like to keep the days semi accurate please. vote: 16 hour Days, 8 hour nights
If we take all the capital letters here you will note it spells out: DEAN IS A TSV CUCK D
This is still fairly weak evidence by the way, however this is the best I can do to justify my gut feeling that the way Dale is playing thus far has been odd.
I'm feeling for you in that you're all drugged up and stuff though man but it's hard to say for sure if they're going to effect your game or not. If anything they should be making you play even less carefree than normal (maybe?) but instead you're putting in a lot of extra effort. Sorry actually his post spells out DEAN IS A TSVL CUCK D. Not sure what TSVL and D are.
dean said:
what Luminescent have brought up OK points for why Lachlan isn't mafia. Not sure I agree with Bijou's latest post as a) daytalk for mafia is actually non-standard (although we have usually had it in our forum games so far) and b) Lachlan's best performance so far was probably in Smashbox mafia where he was both 1. completely in character and 2. mafia.
The point I was making was we can't lynch Lachlan just based on the fact he is rubbish at defending himself because he's always rubbish at doing it lol
When making a lynch we have to take into account how good they are as a player when analysing any anti-town things they may have done. In the past few games I think town have been too quick to lynch people based on a few anti-town things that they may have done by mistake without thinking.
12/16/2016 13:41:15
Vote: Muriki
12/16/2016 13:43:57
LachlanF said:
Balancing the scales just to make it so we'd both be at 5 votes lol. But I see the merit in a day 1 lynch and if the town feels it should be me. There isn't much I could say that could stop it. It would be a shame to see me Burn Up before getting a chance to shine. It might make me loose alot the Fire within.
As a matter of interest, any reason why you're putting fire and burn up in italics?
12/16/2016 13:44:32
I'm off to bed, got to TO today. So Please forgive me for today. If I die it was bleh wasnt it. I don't know..........
12/16/2016 13:45:07
12/16/2016 13:45:07
LachlanF said:
I don't know..........
Please enlighten me.
12/16/2016 13:49:22
Haha I'm glad you found my message. Apparently I messed up with the TSLV and D. I can't even insult dean correctly.
Bijou, I don't mean to be rude but I've had at least 2 players on my back the whole time about me memeing too much and not posting anything worthwhile. Wouldn't literally everyone (note: Not the mason lachlan) then try to prove their worth by then contributing to the town? I'm also trying to carefully construct these posts because I noticed that when I didn't it would get picked apart and the initial meaning I was trying to convey would be lost.
I assume most people who are under the threat of lynch would take things more seriously. (I had to reword this because Lachlan is preventing me from saying "everyone")
12/16/2016 13:52:32
Bijou, I don't mean to be rude but I've had at least 2 players on my back the whole time about me memeing too much and not posting anything worthwhile. Wouldn't literally everyone (note: Not the mason lachlan) then try to prove their worth by then contributing to the town? I'm also trying to carefully construct these posts because I noticed that when I didn't it would get picked apart and the initial meaning I was trying to convey would be lost.
I assume most people who are under the threat of lynch would take things more seriously. (I had to reword this because Lachlan is preventing me from saying "everyone")
12/16/2016 13:52:32
I'm happy for you to be contributing to town if you're genuinely involved in it. The nature of the game is that your posts are going to be picked apart though (especially Day 1 where we have nothing else to work off of). Don't take it as a personal attack or anything.
I actually consider you a good player. In most of your previous games your analysis is usually pretty reasonable when you do post about it. The problem is like you tend to make good reads but don't follow through with them lol.
Take the time you saved Maribro from a night kill and then just let him die the next day for example : p
12/16/2016 14:04:22
I actually consider you a good player. In most of your previous games your analysis is usually pretty reasonable when you do post about it. The problem is like you tend to make good reads but don't follow through with them lol.
Take the time you saved Maribro from a night kill and then just let him die the next day for example : p
12/16/2016 14:04:22
I have no idea what to say about any of this. Lachlan has just gone from implying he was the bomb to basically telling everyone he is a mason? Spacejam left a coded message in a long post telling dean that he is a cuck?
Good to see Bijou and dean are trying to make something of this horrible mess that people have created.
Anyways, three people are yet to vote, so I'd like to bring those guys to the spotlight so that they can add to the discussion and hopefully we can begin to head towards some kind of majority.
MrL, Corvid, Hydro; what are your thoughts on this current situation?
Never forget. Pour one out for Maribro :'(
12/16/2016 14:07:12
Good to see Bijou and dean are trying to make something of this horrible mess that people have created.
Anyways, three people are yet to vote, so I'd like to bring those guys to the spotlight so that they can add to the discussion and hopefully we can begin to head towards some kind of majority.
MrL, Corvid, Hydro; what are your thoughts on this current situation?
Bijou said:
Take the time you saved Maribro from a night kill and then just let him die the next day for example : p
Never forget. Pour one out for Maribro :'(
12/16/2016 14:07:12
Don't remind me.
Vote:Maribro Also Bijou I consider myself fairly weak so that's why I have been try hard-ing.
12/16/2016 14:09:03
Vote:Maribro Also Bijou I consider myself fairly weak so that's why I have been try hard-ing.
12/16/2016 14:09:03
SpaceJam said:
Also Bijou I consider myself fairly weak so that's why I have been try hard-ing.
Nah man, you're not a weak player. Believe in your reads.
12/16/2016 14:09:56
Lachaln could've been hinting at arsonist.
I already said my thoughts on the other page really. I don't think he's mafia, but needs to talk more.
He's talked a bit more I guess so I'm fine with pressuring Murkiri.
I find what dean and bijou are saying is interesting and they could be on to something, but I feel top priority should be to get murkiri, lachlan and corvid to talk more. We need to get the more inactive players to talk more so they stop being negative utilities. This is always my priority atleast when we have nothing solid. Idk it just bugs me.
If we get murkiri to talk, I say we focus on corvid next.
12/16/2016 15:02:59
I already said my thoughts on the other page really. I don't think he's mafia, but needs to talk more.
He's talked a bit more I guess so I'm fine with pressuring Murkiri.
I find what dean and bijou are saying is interesting and they could be on to something, but I feel top priority should be to get murkiri, lachlan and corvid to talk more. We need to get the more inactive players to talk more so they stop being negative utilities. This is always my priority atleast when we have nothing solid. Idk it just bugs me.
If we get murkiri to talk, I say we focus on corvid next.
12/16/2016 15:02:59
Lachlan is probably the fire trial guy and forgot character claiming is banned.
I wouldn't put it past someone who voted "lynch".
12/16/2016 20:37:18
I wouldn't put it past someone who voted "lynch".
12/16/2016 20:37:18
I was thinking along the same lines of him hinting he is an arsonist but I don't see why he'd want us to know that lol.
Probably the most solid read we have right now, we should probably make him our priority target if it's the case. Will give town a much better advantage if we're not losing two players every night.
I suppose he could potentially hot mafia but do you really trust him to pull that off? Lol. *hit mafia
12/16/2016 21:10:39
Probably the most solid read we have right now, we should probably make him our priority target if it's the case. Will give town a much better advantage if we're not losing two players every night.
I suppose he could potentially hot mafia but do you really trust him to pull that off? Lol. *hit mafia
12/16/2016 21:10:39
Remember guys, character claiming is banned blah blah blah
But also flavour text doesn't mean anything, so don't read too much into his allusion to his flavour text claim.
Also there's tournaments in QLD and VIC today, so expect inactivity. Feel free to play though.
12/16/2016 22:48:58
But also flavour text doesn't mean anything, so don't read too much into his allusion to his flavour text claim.
Also there's tournaments in QLD and VIC today, so expect inactivity. Feel free to play though.
12/16/2016 22:48:58
10am train thoughts -
"Burn Up" is a move in the new game where it's super strong but the pokemon loses its fire type after using it. this alongside that weird mason posts leads me to believe he's not-so-subtly claiming something similar to the masonizer role from last game. at the very least i think it's more likely he dies/loses his role from misuse than him claiming arsonist, which would be a pretty awful claim. nevertheless the way he phrased it makes me a lot less suspicious of him in the meantime.
Vote: Unvote
not gonna place a vote just yet. will be relatively busy over the next couple days and there's enough votes on people that they're gonna be pressured regardless. can't get a read on spacejam and would like to see what murkiri has to say so i'll just wait and see at this point.
12/16/2016 23:27:18
"Burn Up" is a move in the new game where it's super strong but the pokemon loses its fire type after using it. this alongside that weird mason posts leads me to believe he's not-so-subtly claiming something similar to the masonizer role from last game. at the very least i think it's more likely he dies/loses his role from misuse than him claiming arsonist, which would be a pretty awful claim. nevertheless the way he phrased it makes me a lot less suspicious of him in the meantime.
Vote: Unvote
not gonna place a vote just yet. will be relatively busy over the next couple days and there's enough votes on people that they're gonna be pressured regardless. can't get a read on spacejam and would like to see what murkiri has to say so i'll just wait and see at this point.
12/16/2016 23:27:18
Yeah Murkiri goes to my school so I'd keep him updated on the mafia game last game and he said it sounded interesting.
12/17/2016 00:47:35
12/17/2016 00:47:35
Not gonna play it's up a vote just yet mainly because I want to see more of what murkiri has to say
12/17/2016 01:13:11
12/17/2016 01:13:11
Now that Luminescent has said some stuff, I feel obliged to removed my pressure from them as I'm satisfied currently.
VOTE: Unvote
12/17/2016 01:52:23
VOTE: Unvote
12/17/2016 01:52:23
InsertName said:
Yeah Murkiri goes to my school so I'd keep him updated on the mafia game last game and he said it sounded interesting.
if you have his contact, can you tell him to say his opinions? hes been inactive
12/17/2016 03:02:46
ok sent
12/17/2016 04:38:05
12/17/2016 04:38:05
People who will get an inactivity warning by 12am tonight are, Murkiri, JLo and Hyrdropimp.
12/17/2016 04:49:30
12/17/2016 04:49:30