Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins! page 34

"In its simplest form, Mafia consists of two sides: the Mafia, and the Town. The Mafia's goal is to kill the innocents, while the Town's goal is to kill the Mafia.

At the beginning of the game, the Moderator will secretly send everyone their role. The Mafia will know each other, while (in the basic game) everyone else will only know their own role.

The game has two phases. During Night, the Town can not communicate, but the Mafia can discuss and choose someone to murder. After the Moderator has received the name of the victim, the Moderator reveals the dead player, and Day begins.

During Day, the Town must choose someone to Lynch; they are trying to eliminate the Mafia, but the Mafia can lead them astray by casting suspicion elsewhere. Generally, players will vote for someone they think is Mafia (the Mafia will vote so that they seem to be doing this as well, and might even vote for each other to confuse the Town); when a player gets a majority of the votes, they are lynched. Their role is revealed by the Moderator, and it is once again Night.

The game alternates between Night and Day until either the Mafia are eliminated, or the Mafia have killed everyone else."

Guide: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Newbie_Guide
Flash tutorial: http://cataldo.freeshell.org/mafia/mafiascum04.swf
Reading the old games on QLD Smash may give you an indication of how to play the game.
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With the new Pokemon Sun and Moon being released Aero and I thought it would be appropriate to theme a mafia game around it.

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Day Phases last 2 weeks from when they are started and night phases can go for up to 48 hours before the next day begins.

Mods:
Aerodrome
Rhyno

With 14 Alive it takes 8 to lynch!

Deadline: 06/02/17 14:30 AEDT

Votes:
Not Voted (8) - cAKE, ThatLaggyPerson, Extra, LuminousLucas, Hydropimp, Maribro, Cjeccjec, Invisi
Extra (6) - Luminescent, Dean, Bijou, JLo, Autumnwind, Ghostbone

Dead:
LachlanF, Town-Aligned "Officer Jenny's Arcanine" Vanilla Cop, lynched Day 1
MrL, Mafia "Guzma" 2-Shot Strongman, killed Night 1
Insertname, Town-Aligned "Hau" Virgin, killed Night 2
Dean, Independent "Lusamine" Bullet Proof Serial Killer, lynched Day 3
Corvid, Independent "Gumshoos" Lyncher turned Survivor, modkilled Day 4
Windkeeper, Mafia "Alolan Persian" Mafia Traitor/2-shot Vanillariser lynched Day 4
Spacejam, Mafia "Plumeria" Hooker lynched Day 5
Dean (Duon), Town-Alligned "Turtonator" Jailer, killed Night 5
Dean (Duon), Town-Alligned "Turtonator" Jailer, killed Day 6

Note:
Yudowat replaced Corvid Day 3
Dean replaced Duon Night 3
cAKE replaced Murkiri Day 4
Dean (Duon) revived Day 6

Rhyno 01/23/2017 11:50:20

Ghostbone

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dean said:
Do you think that there is going to be a cop in this game together with Luminescent's one-shot investigate? Cop is realistically the only town role that can gather more info tonight than you would have otherwise (Tracker/Watcher won't do much since no one is going to go out to kill), and this game is already super-stacked with town power roles as it is.
Mafia are also extremely likely to have information-gathering roles that benefit from night like Tracker or Rolecop.

Tracker/Watcher can catch a vanillaiser in action as well.
And the mafia is getting their info either way (we have no guarantee to take out an information gathering role).

It's not like I don't think Dean is SK either (he probably is 90% of the time), but there's no reason to assume he's telling the truth. Hydro tried to imply that because we didn't follow Dean's suggestion to claim roles, that means that he achieved nothing and claiming SK was pointless (in the case that he's mafia), but that's viewing the situation with hindsight. And if we don't vote of Dean today then his claim WAS useful to him, since we're assuming he's SK and not the mafia (traitor?) vanillaiser/rolecop himself.

01/10/2017 02:38:44

Bijou

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In a sense I was trying g to discourage the mafia from targeting me by asking for a night protection (from Duon for example who ignored me).

I thought that if the mafia saw me asking for protection they would think I was bluffing and actually going to use my re-direct off of myself again and therefore not bother to target me with anything.

01/10/2017 02:41:28

Rhyno

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Murkiri, Corvid and Autumnwind haven't posted for a while, they'll get inactivity timers by the end of the day, Corvid will be replaced this time if thats the case.

01/10/2017 02:42:27

Bijou

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SpaceJam said:
With 18 people in it and what I consider only 4 people playing this game I find it hard to partake in this discussion.

From my experience so far this has literally been every game ever done on this site, so I wouldn't let it discourage you from playing proactively like you were in Day 1 when there was less information to work off.

01/10/2017 02:43:45

SpaceJam

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Bijou did you know before night phase begun that you couldn't target yourself?

01/10/2017 02:46:22

Bijou

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The point in which I was made aware of the fact I wasn't going to be allowed to re-target myself was right after Night 1 ended and Day 2 opened.

01/10/2017 02:51:00

SpaceJam

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Fair enough, thats understandable that you then asked for protection. I was under the assumption you would have been told at the start of night 2.

01/10/2017 02:53:57

Windkeeper0

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Though there is a chance that Dean is actually mafia and he claimed Sk to gain some time, I don't think it's as likely. Since there are no night kills tonight I think we can afford to lynch someone else if it means taking out one of Mafia's power roles.
At the moment I agree that LuminousLucas is the most likely to be mafia. On top of what has already been said he is contradicting himself, like stating everyone needs to build up the conversation in the same post that he justified his parroting and

LuminousLucas said:
I didn't say I supported the mass role claim, I said what would come of it IF we did it.

LuminousLucas said:
If dean wants me to role claim, I'd gladly do so if it helps. We have nothing to lose since there will be no night kills tonight thanks to insert. I want to see how keen everyone else is on this though.

To me "we have nothing to lose" doesn't seem as neutral as your trying to make it out to be.
Vote:LuminousLucas
I still think lynching Dean is a good option for today but I feel like this is more optimal for town.

01/10/2017 04:43:55

Bijou

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Wii U: ShadowRhyno

3DS: 0001-3329-7885

We're better off still killing Dean today. What if we learn the identity of a mafia during night 3? Who do we kill then? Dean or the mafia?

Killing someone confirmed anti town today is the optimal play for sure.

01/10/2017 05:27:21

JLo

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Wii U: thatdudejono

3DS: 5086-1719-4466

Bijou said:
We're better off still killing Dean today. What if we learn the identity of a mafia during night 3? Who do we kill then? Dean or the mafia?

Killing someone confirmed anti town today is the optimal play for sure.

What are the realistic chances of that though? And even in the off chance that it happens, what are the chances that the person who has this info comes forward?

01/10/2017 05:33:41

Windkeeper0

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Without a night kill tonight it will be a lot harder to track the mafia down so we would have to rely on a cop/gunsmith both existing and choosing the right person to investigate. Though there is a chance that they will find scum tonight we are likely to have about as much information tomorrow as we do tonight.

Since we will likely have the same amount of info tomorrow, the people that are the most suspicious are unlikely to change from the end of the day. Due to this if we end up lynching one of them and they flip mafia today, we won't have to deal with their power roles tonight. If we do that tomorrow instead they will still get to use their ability which could stuff us up like they've already done to Bijou.

Also if we don't open up the option of lynching someone else today then the pressure we are putting on people won't do much.

01/10/2017 06:04:36

KiwifruitKoala

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Activity post.

01/10/2017 12:01:49

JEANS

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can cunts stop with fucking activity posts

01/10/2017 12:59:06

SpaceJam

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activity post

01/10/2017 13:26:53

Ghostbone

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activity post

01/10/2017 13:30:39

Aerodrome

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activity post

01/10/2017 13:31:37

Ben_Gold

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activity post

01/10/2017 14:20:46

Sigma

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activity post

01/10/2017 14:25:39

dean

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3DS: 1435-4425-6023

Things don't get funnier when you say them five times.

01/10/2017 14:26:23

Ghostbone

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Things don't get funnier when you say them five times.

01/10/2017 16:16:25

Invisi

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We've been talking about pressuring people for a while and nothing's really happened. A couple people have moved off Dean too, so I'll add my vote to the train and hopefully we can keep this game moving.

Vote: Dean

I agree that lynching Dean today is best, even though he's not a threat tonight. If we happen to get new information overnight than points to a new anti-town suspect, we don't want to be stuck deciding whether they're a more worthwhile lynch than Dean.

01/11/2017 00:23:20

Luminescent

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3DS: 4640-0397-9717

I do feel both LuminousLucas and cjeccjec have been contradicting themselves and I am getting scummy reads from them (particularly cjeccjec).

I'm on board for applying pressure on Lucas though. His defences have no substance and he's playing the "I'm not good at this game" card.

If the vanillerizer is going to target someone it's probably me or Duon as we've come out about our roles and abilities. If there are watchers around, I'd advise them to choose between us.

We still have 8 days to gather some more information and reads. If we can get people talking there is more of a chance for mafia to slip up. Extra is right, we need to get rid of this mentality where we are just lynch Dean and move onto the next day for discussion. Dean is already a confirmed evil role and can be afforded to lynch tomorrow if not today.

Vote: Unvote

Vote: LuminousLucas

01/11/2017 02:10:03

dean

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Invisi said:
We've been talking about pressuring people for a while and nothing's really happened.

I'd like to say it's not been from lack of trying on your part, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
The only "pressuring" you've done was ask Laggy what his role is now, he answered Vanilla and everyone moved on.

If you're curious about Laggy, why not continue to ask him... I don't know... why there are timespans of several days between each of his posts? Why he has chased just easy targets the entire game (Corvid, HydroPimp, Duon when he had a lot of votes on him)? Why he responded so quickly to Maribro's jibe when he's been quiet the entire game (sign of a lurker)? Like I said, I don't mind if people are good or bad at the game but I expect every townsfolk to at least try and I'm not sure I'm seeing this from ThatLaggyPerson.

Speaking of Corvid, can we actually get a conformation from the moderators about his status in the game? Aerodrome said at the start that if Corvid received an inactivity strike that he'd be replaced. Well, he got that strike and we've yet to hear anything more from either Rhyno or Aerodrome about this.
His only posts in the last two weeks were "I've been busy my bad" and "Stop meming", and before that his contribution was mostly "I'm not the serial killer"; I know he was at a tournament yesterday but he needs to be made to contribute.

I am curious as to why players would think I'm a threat to townies if I live to night 4. The way I see it, I have just two ways to win:
First method is to show the town that I am a positive asset to them, by contributing during Day phase and maybe offering my services as a makeshift vigilante during the night. From here, I sort of have to hope town mislynches several times in a row so the game reaches lylo in which case I might be able to do something.

Do you know what killing townies indiscriminately on Night 4 does? It turns town against me, they will lynch me, immediately losing me the game.
That is an awful play on my part.

01/11/2017 02:14:19

Rhyno

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Corvid has received his final activity strike and will be replaced!

Murkiri has also received an activity strike and will be replaced by the end of the day if he does not post.

Also Autumnwind, try and add something next time rather than just saying you're here, makes the game more fun. <3

01/11/2017 03:10:53

Invisi

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dean said:

Invisi said:
We've been talking about pressuring people for a while and nothing's really happened.
I'd like to say it's not been from lack of trying on your part, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
The only "pressuring" you've done was ask Laggy what his role is now, he answered Vanilla and everyone moved on.

Fair criticism. I had actually been thinking Laggy might be mafia, because I figured an unlynchable vanilla townie would be too vanilla for this game. I didn't say anything because I don't have anything but guesswork to base that suspicion on, and I don't think it's wise to act on such guesswork. But maybe now that I've put that out there, some of the other town members could potentially act accordingly?

On another note, I'm starting to think it might even be a good idea to let Dean live. He's been one of the most active players in this game, and I have no reason not to take him at his word. After all, he hasn't killed anyone up to this point, and there's nothing stopping him from continuing that trend.

The key difference between Dean this game and Aero last game is the state of the game. When Aero tried to bargain with us, we were already quite far behind, such that one more wrong lynch put us at lylo. He intended to kill off another townie, which would force the town into a position of cooperation with him where he held the bargaining chips, due to the mafia outnumbering the town.

This time, we're ahead. Not super far ahead, but comfortably ahead. We hold the bargaining chips in any potential truce arrangement, and Dean is well aware of this. Heck, he's been trying to point it out to us this whole time!

If you guys do want to lynch Dean, that's completely understandable, and I'm not going to be suspicious of anyone because of how they choose to handle this situation. But for now, I'm willing to give him a chance.

Unvote

Oh, I may as well add a carriage to this train while I'm at it. I wonder which station it's going to...

Vote: LuminousLucas

01/11/2017 03:49:48

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